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Different spellings for surnames

Postby mikie19642000 » 15 Apr 2011, 00:11

Is there a different way to spell Pinelli ? This is the way that we have always spelled it but I wonder if it could actually be different. Maybe Panelli, Punelli, Paneli ?
I want to find the immigration papers for my Great Grandparents and my Grandmother.

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Re: Different spellings for surnames

Postby johnnyonthespot » 15 Apr 2011, 01:12

Mike,

You can test various spellings using the Italian white pages telephone directory: http://www.paginebianche.it/execute.cgi ... i&dv=&l=en

Take a look here, as well: http://www.cognomiitaliani.org/cognomi/cognomi0014.htm

If you would care to share additional info (names, year of birth, place settled in the US, etc), we would be happy to see what we can turn up.
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Postby adelfio » 15 Apr 2011, 16:29

Welcome how about some names and dates of your grandparents and where they lived in the States there are plently of good researchers on here to help...

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Re: Different spellings for surnames

Postby mikie19642000 » 15 Apr 2011, 18:31

I have no idea when they immigrated but I do know it was before 1924 because several of their 13 children were born in the US.
Great Grandfather is Mateo Pinelli
Great Grandmother is Rina Cardinale Pinelli
Mateos brother lived here as a fishmonger before the rest of the family came... They all lived in Buffalo New York but I'm not sure if this was their original city.
There were 2 of Rinas sisters...Sesunda and Secunda Cardinale...not sure of the spelling.
They opened a business in Buffalo...Is there a way to find that out too?

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Re: Different spellings for surnames

Postby Tessa78 » 15 Apr 2011, 18:38

Do you have an approx year of birth for Mateo?

Names of his children (at least some of the 13) would help to find a census record...

Names of his brothers, if you know them?

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Re: Different spellings for surnames

Postby Tessa78 » 15 Apr 2011, 19:07

Here is a lead... but not too much :)
Maybe you have this?

Index, 1906-1966 Petitions for Naturalization, U.S. District Court, Western Dist. of New York, M1677

Naturalization Card for Matteo Pinelli, Dec. 1926

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Re: Different spellings for surnames

Postby Tessa78 » 15 Apr 2011, 19:17

Have located a Buffalo City Directory listing in 1933

Matteo Pinello, wife Rena, paperhanger, address: read 349 Spring

Right side about 17 lines down...
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Re: Different spellings for surnames

Postby Tessa78 » 15 Apr 2011, 19:28

Another Buffalo Directory - 1956

Third column - Top - 3rd listing

Matthew Pinelli, wife Rena, painter, 409 Busti Av.

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If Matteo (Matthew) was still living in 1956, there is a good chance you can learn the names of his parents and his place of birth from his Social Security Application...

You can usually find the SS# on his death cert., or you can request a search.
Order a copy of his application (SS-5) at this site online...
http://genealogy.about.com/gi/o.htm?zi= ... t/main.jsp

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Re: Different spellings for surnames

Postby Tessa78 » 15 Apr 2011, 19:31

Here is 1927 Directory with an address of "418 Chicago"
This might help with a search for the 1930 Census...
Name still listed as Matteo...

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Re: Different spellings for surnames

Postby Tessa78 » 15 Apr 2011, 19:56

Found them in 1930 Census!!!

Name transcribed as "Perillo" -
Matteo's occupation is paperhanger. They live on Myrtle Avenue.
Matteo's year of immigration is listed as 1920 (also listed as Naturalized), and Rena and Rose as 1920.
Rose seems to be the only child listed in 1930 as born in Italy...

1930 United States Federal Census

Name: Rena H Perillo
Home in 1930: Buffalo, Erie, New York
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Age: 27
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1903
Relation to Head of House: Wife
Spouse's Name: Matteo Perillo
Race: White
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Household Members:
Name Age
Matteo Perillo 37
Rena H Perillo 27
Rose Perillo 10
Mary Perillo 8
Josephine Perillo 8
Thresa Perillo 7
Sylvia Perillo 6
Anna Perillo 3 6/12
Sam Perillo 2 2/12
Mario Perillo 7/12

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Re: Different spellings for surnames

Postby Tessa78 » 15 Apr 2011, 20:18

Found the manifest!!!! :D :D :D

The name was transcribed as "Finelli" :?

The arrived in 1920 on February 14th, on the SS Giuseppe Verdi.
Matteo 27,
Erina, 18
Rosa, 1

Last residence was Caltanissetta, Italy where they left Uncle Calogero
Going to father Salvatore at 205 Front St., Buffalo, NY

Lines 21, 22, 23
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Re: Different spellings for surnames

Postby johnnyonthespot » 15 Apr 2011, 20:25

Tessa78 wrote:Found them in 1930 Census!!!


Tessa78 wrote:Found the manifest!!!! :D :D :D


Well, you have certainly earned your Gold Star for today! :mrgreen:
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Re: Different spellings for surnames

Postby Tessa78 » 15 Apr 2011, 20:32

Grazie, Carmine! :D

But I would say the same for you... :D :D :D
I saw the great job you did with the "Boscacci" post!
(and suanj's finds as well!!!) :wink:

Sometimes you just can't leave the forum without finding that elusive record! :lol:

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Re: Different spellings for surnames

Postby Tessa78 » 15 Apr 2011, 20:54

Some icing for the cake! :D (Some days we just get lucky)

Birth Record for Matteo Pinelli, born Caltanissetta, Sicily, Italy, 1893

Date of record - 30 January 1893, 9:30 AM at the Town Hall.
Before the official appeared Salvatore Pinelli, 36, (occ?), to declare that at
7 AM on the 29th of January at the house at Via Laxxx? #37, was born to Rosa Bellavia, his wife, a male child that they gave the name Matteo...

The record is on the bottom left, and top right of the image.
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Re: Different spellings for surnames

Postby mikie19642000 » 16 Apr 2011, 00:03

YOU ARE ALL AMAZING !!!!!!
Thank You So Much !!!


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