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Cant find definition for Pipola

Postby Tony T » 23 Apr 2011, 04:16

Hello IG community. Im pretty new here so bear with me. For years I thought I was the only person with this last name. After some time researching Ive found some others. Tho the one thing that troubles me is my sur names origin. I cant find meaning for it anywhere and it killing me lol.

I know my family comes from Pomigliano D'Arco (Naples,Campania). Is it a sland term ? I have no idea, and if anybody can help it would be greatly appriciated, thanks.

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Re: Cant find definition for Pipola

Postby johnnyonthespot » 23 Apr 2011, 11:44

This mapping tool shows that the name is concentrated around Napoli: http://recordsearch.naa.gov.au/SearchNR ... earch.aspx

The current Italian telephone directory has 62 entries: http://www.paginebianche.it/execute.cgi ... btt=1&om=0

In the US, the name is present in extremely small numbers in New York and Florida: http://www.gens-us.net/map/genera.html?cognome=PIPOLA

As to the origin of the name, it is most likely a variant of Pipoli/Pipolo; see http://www.cognomiitaliani.org/cognomi/ ... 0014in.htm I believe the text indicates that the name comes from a Greek nickname. Someone far better than I will have to translate; does it refer to the child being of unknown father?

Pipoli è tipicamente pugliese, ha un ceppo importante a Foggia e nel barese a Monopoli e Putignano, Pipolo invece è campano di Napoli, con presenze significative anche a Giugliano in Campania, sempre nel napoletano, ed a Laurino, Salerno, Piaggine ed Albanella nel salernitano, Pippoli e Pippolo, quasi unici, dovrebbero essere forme alterate dei precedenti, dovrebbero derivare da soprannomi, in lingua greca, stanti ad indicare nel capostipite la caratteristica di non avere caratteristiche, ne vediamo l'uso in Plauto: ".. Consimile his, quod legitur apud eundem Plautum, citante Festo: Non ego istud verbum empsitem titivillitio. Nam hoc verbo Latinos nihili rem significare solitos, quemadmodum et Graeci dicunt, pipolo. ..", ma è pure possibile invece che derivino da forme ipocoristiche di modificazioni familiari dell'aferesi del nome Filippo, prima Pippo e poi Pippolo o Pipolo.
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Re: Cant find definition for Pipola

Postby Tessa78 » 23 Apr 2011, 16:14

johnnyonthespot wrote:This mapping tool shows that the name is concentrated around Napoli: http://recordsearch.naa.gov.au/SearchNR ... earch.aspx


Carmine, this link doesn't seem to be working...
Here is the link for the GensLabo name mapping... (enter Pipola in the "cognome" box)
http://gens.labo.net/it/cognomi/genera.html

And, the Pipola surname is surely concentrated around Naples :-)

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Re: Cant find definition for Pipola

Postby johnnyonthespot » 23 Apr 2011, 16:23

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Re: Cant find definition for Pipola

Postby Tony T » 23 Apr 2011, 22:50

Hey thanks alot guys ! I really appriciate the help. Finding the most about my heritage is really important to me. I am aware of all the different influences that peninsula of Italy has seen over the years (Roman,Etruscan,Greek/Trojan,Byzantine,Gothic,Lombard,Norman,Spanish to name a few) , and for the life of me, I could never figure out what my last name means, or where it came from. It still isnt 100% clear on the exact meaning, since it seems to be a slang term , or a nicknamem but this is still a tremendous improvement from where I was before. My mom insists that it means pol bearer,but I have found no such link. From the information presented to me here I have deduced that its an acient greek/latin term for a b**tard child, or a comes from the name Filipo. Does anybody else see this, or am I reading it wrong ?

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Re: Cant find definition for Pipola

Postby Tony T » 30 Apr 2011, 02:58

Anybody ?

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Re: Cant find definition for Pipola

Postby liviomoreno » 30 Apr 2011, 08:52

Tony T wrote:... From the information presented to me here I have deduced that its an acient greek/latin term for a b**tard child, or a comes from the name Filipo. Does anybody else see this, or am I reading it wrong ?


My interpretation is that it is an ancient greek/latin term for an insignificant person, a person with no characteristics (la caratteristica di non avere caratteristiche)

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Re: Cant find definition for Pipola

Postby Tony T » 03 May 2011, 03:49

liviomoreno wrote:
Tony T wrote:... From the information presented to me here I have deduced that its an acient greek/latin term for a b**tard child, or a comes from the name Filipo. Does anybody else see this, or am I reading it wrong ?


My interpretation is that it is an ancient greek/latin term for an insignificant person, a person with no characteristics (la caratteristica di non avere caratteristiche)


Hmm very intresting. Thanks for your insight. I was also wondering if Pipola could stem from the latin word Pipilo, or Pipulus ?


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