Carbonari and Iuriatti in Castillo Di Fiemme

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Carbonari and Iuriatti in Castillo Di Fiemme

Postby history_geek303 » 08 Jun 2011, 05:54

Hello! My great grandfather came to the United States (mysteriously) at an unknown date. He was from Castillo Di Fiemme, Trentino Alto-Adige. His name is Enrico Carbonari, I am not sure if it was originally spelled Carbonare with an accent over the e or not. His wife, my great grandmother came through Ellis Island, which we know for a fact but can not find records was called Dominica Iuriatti in the states. But in a Marriage document I found her name was listed as Marguerite. I am quite confused as to why she would have a different name than what she told her children. I will post a link to the marriage document. It will have the exact birthdays (confirmed from other sources) of my great grandfather and grandmother. Another interesting thing, my great grandfather was in the Austrian Army because during the time he was in Castillo, it was a part of Tirolo, Austria. I do have copies of his military passport too, but they are not digital. I also used to have a copy of his WWI draft card for the United States, but I only saw it when it was free on ancestry.com.

I so far have a couple questions, (I know this post is long but every time I figure something out I have more questions):

1. How did my great grandfather get to the United States (possibly came over in 1913ish)
2. Why is there a name change in my great grandmother's name?
3. Do I have any relation to the city Carbonare or the group Carbonari?
4. Which spelling variation of Iuriatti is correct? My relatives in Italy spell it Iuriatti but my grandpa spells it Euratti.

If you can find any useful information that would be great!! I am currently waiting to get a membership with ancestry.com to get some more research. I am sorry if this is an information overload, but I do have a lot more than this. If you need anything more please feel free to ask!

This is my summer project and I would love help!

Link to Marriage document:
https://familysearch.org/search/recordDetails/show?uri=https://api.familysearch.org/records/pal:/MM9.1.r/MTPX-755/p8

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Re: Carbonari and Iuriatti in Castillo Di Fiemme

Postby Paolo47 » 08 Jun 2011, 13:25

Hello, :D
Here is the WW1 draft record for your Enrico,
http://postimage.org/image/eyw9p24k/
Hello, :D
Here is the WW1 draft record for your Enrico,
http://postimage.org/image/eyw9p24k/

And a possible manifest (Line 28)
Name: Enrico Carbonari
Arrival Date: 3 Apr 1914
Birth Year: abt 1889
Birth Location: Tirol
Birth Location Other: molma
Age: 25
Gender: Male
Ethnicity/Race­/Nationality: Italian (North) (Italian)
Port of Departure: Southampton, England
Port of Arrival: New York, New York
Ship Name: St Louis
Page 1 http://postimage.org/image/ezmqam10/
Page 2 http://postimage.org/image/eztcg004/

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Re: Carbonari and Iuriatti in Castillo Di Fiemme

Postby pink67 » 08 Jun 2011, 14:09

From this italian site:
http://www.natitrentino.mondotrentino.n ... ached=true

the birth dates for Enrico:

Nome: ENRICO ERMENEGILDO
Cognome del nato: CARBONARE
Sesso: M
Nome del padre: ANTONIO (father's name)
Nome della madre: OLIVA (mother's name)
Cognome della madre: DELVAI (mother's lastname)
Anno di nascita: 15/2/1887
Parrocchia: CASTELLO DI FIEMME - S. Giorgio (place of birth and parish)

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Re: Carbonari and Iuriatti in Castillo Di Fiemme

Postby pink67 » 08 Jun 2011, 14:26

There are doubles record for Enrico:

Name: ENRICO GILDO
Last name/Family name: CARBONARE
Gender: M Father’s name: ANTONIO
Mother’s name: OLIVA
Mother's family name: DELVAI
Year of birth: 15/2/1887
Parish: CARANO - S. Nicolò

Name: ENRICO SILVIO
Last name/Family name: CARBONARE
Gender: M
Father’s name: ANTONIO
Mother’s name: OLIVA
Mother's family name: DELVAI
Year of birth: 15/2/1887
Parish: MOLINA DI FIEMME - S. Antonio di Padova

For sure it's the same person the only different thing is the place of birth/baptism parish and the middle name, I don't understand the reason of these three records..

these are Enrico's siblings:

Name: LUCIA CESIRA
Last name/Family name: CARBONARE
Gender: F
Father’s name: ANTONIO
Mother’s name: OLIVA
Mother's family name: DELVAI
Year of birth: 20/12/1884
Parish: CARANO - S. Nicolò

Name: ORINDO ANTONIO
Last name/Family name: CARBONARE
Gender: M Father’s name: ANTONIO
Mother’s name: OLIVA
Mother's family name: DELVAI
Year of birth: 28/2/1886
Parish: MOLINA DI FIEMME - S. Antonio di Padova

Name: OLINDO JOSEF
Last name/Family name: CARBONARE
Gender: M Father’s name: ANTONIO
Mother’s name: OLIVA
Mother's family name: DELVAI
Year of birth: 6/5/1888
Parish: MOLINA DI FIEMME - S. Antonio di Padova

Name: SILVIO GIOVANNI
Last name/Family name: CARBONARE
Gender: M Father’s name: ANTONIO
Mother’s name: OLIVA
Mother's family name: DELVAI
Year of birth: 10/11/1889
Parish: MOLINA DI FIEMME - S. Antonio di Padova

Name: ANTONIO MARTINO
Last name/Family name: CARBONARE
Gender: M Father’s name: ANTONIO
Mother’s name: OLIVA
Mother's family name: DELVAI
Year of birth: 11/11/1890
Parish: MOLINA DI FIEMME - S. Antonio di Padova

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Re: Carbonari and Iuriatti in Castillo Di Fiemme

Postby pink67 » 08 Jun 2011, 14:30

From the same site the birth dates for Enrico's wife:

Name: DOMENICA MARGHERITA
Last name/Family name: JURIATTI
Gender: F
Father’s name: PIETRO
Mother’s name: TERESA
Mother's family name: BONORA
Year of birth: 6/9/1900
Parish: CASTELLO DI FIEMME - S. Giorgio

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Re: Carbonari and Iuriatti in Castillo Di Fiemme

Postby pink67 » 08 Jun 2011, 15:00

Domenica Margherita Juriatti's siblings:

Name: VITTORIO
Last name/Family name: JURIATTI
Gender: M
Father’s name: PIETRO
Mother’s name: TERESA
Mother's family name: BONORA
Year of birth: 11/9/1896
Parish: CASTELLO DI FIEMME - S. Giorgio

Name: MARIA GUGLIELMINA
Last name/Family name: JURIATTI
Gender: F Father’s name: PIETRO
Mother’s name: TERESA
Mother's family name: BONORA
Year of birth: 11/6/1898
Parish: CASTELLO DI FIEMME - S. Giorgio

Name: GIOVANNA
Last name/Family name: JURIATTI
Gender: F
Father’s name: PIETRO
Mother’s name: TERESA
Mother's family name: BONORA
Year of birth: 10/9/1901
Parish: CASTELLO DI FIEMME - S. Giorgio

Name: PIETRO
Last name/Family name: JURIATTI
Gender: M
Father’s name: PIETRO
Mother’s name: TERESA
Mother's family name: BONORA
Year of birth: 13/5/1903
Parish: CASTELLO DI FIEMME - S. Giorgio

possibly this baby ied as an infant because Pietro and Teresa named Pietro another baby born after him:

Name: PIETRO
Last name/Family name: JURIATTI
Gender: M
Father’s name: PIETRO
Mother’s name: TERESA
Mother's family name: BONORA
Year of birth: 9/6/1905
Parish: CASTELLO DI FIEMME - S. Giorgio

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Re: Carbonari and Iuriatti in Castillo Di Fiemme

Postby pink67 » 08 Jun 2011, 15:25

This is the arrival manifest for Domenica:

1 december 1922

Domenica Furiatti (sure lastname was mispelled), age 22, single, from Castello di Fiemme. she was leaving in Italy her mother Teresa. She was going to Somers - Montana to jojn Enrico Carbonare, her future Husband

page 1:
http://www.ellisisland.org/EIFile/popup ... &line=0011
page 2:
http://www.ellisisland.org/EIFile/popup ... &line=0011

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Re: Carbonari and Iuriatti in Castillo Di Fiemme

Postby history_geek303 » 09 Jun 2011, 22:36

Thank you everybody for your help!!

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Re: Carbonari and Iuriatti in Castillo Di Fiemme

Postby history_geek303 » 24 Jul 2011, 06:02

Hey I need some more help. I was able to find the birth record of Antonio, Enrico's father. However using the same search engine I was unable to find the birth record of his mother. I also could not find the birth record of Antonio's parents.

Here is Enrico's information:

Name: Enrico Ermenegildo
Last name/Family name: Carbonare
Gender: M
Father's name: Antonio
Mother's name: Oliva
Mother's family name: Delvai
Year of birth: 15/2/1887
Parish: Castello Di Fiemme - S. Giorgio

Here is Antonio's information:

Name: Antonio Fortunato
Last name/Family name: Carbonare
Gender: M
Father's name: Simone
Mother's name: Anna
Mother's family name: Zorzi
Year of birth: 5/4/1858
Parish: Castello Di Fiemme - S. Giorgio

Thanks in advance :)


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