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Family Surname Lieze

Postby Lieze-Adams » 04 Jul 2011, 22:57

Great grandfather came from Italy in 1800's - We have been told from Palermo and also northern Italy. Very frustrating. Any ideas of where the family name Lieze may be from would be very helpful. We have no record of other spellings.

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Re: Family Surname Lieze

Postby adelfio » 05 Jul 2011, 13:23

Welcome to the website
Looked on Surname website nothing for Lieze but there are some hits for Liegi in Palermo could be some z's and g's in old script crossed up over the years possible
http://italia.indettaglio.it/eng/cognomi/cognomi.html
also checked the surname map no hits on Lieze
http://www.gens.labo.net/en/cognomi/gen ... l?cognome=

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Re: Family Surname Lieze

Postby suanj » 05 Jul 2011, 21:46

Lieze-Adams wrote:Great grandfather came from Italy in 1800's - We have been told from Palermo and also northern Italy. Very frustrating. Any ideas of where the family name Lieze may be from would be very helpful. We have no record of other spellings.

Hi,
I searched abt your ancestor and I am sure that your ancestor was Donato "Lieze"; also I found the genealogic tree on ancestry.com..
Obviously Lieze surname not exist in Italy and the fact that I no found Donato in the 1900 census of Pennsylvania and in 1910 census of New Jersey, let me understand that the surname is wrong and maybe just a part...
also the wife(Mary Schefflera ) maiden name is mispelled ... just some thought
1920 United States Federal Census
about Donato Lieze
Name: Donato Lieze
[Donato Linze]
Home in 1920: Deptford, Gloucester, New Jersey
Age: 49
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1871
Birthplace: Italy
Relation to Head of House: Self (Head)
[Head]
Spouse's Name: Mary Lieze
Father's Birth Place: Italy
Mother's Birth Place: Italy
Marital Status: Married
Race: White
Sex: Male
Home owned: Own
Year of immigration: 1891
Able to read: No
Able to Write: No
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Donato Lieze 49 IT
Mary Lieze 41 IT
Darmond Lieze 21 PA
Anne Lieze 19 PA
Teressa Lieze 15 PA
Dominick Lieze 13 NJ
Carrie Lieze 10 NJ
Peter Lieze 7 NJ
[2 6/12]
Marian Lieze 4 NJ
[4 5/12]


the first children was born in PA, and Darmond/Diamond aka Settimo or Settimio:

World War I Draft Registration Cards, 1917-1918 about Diamond Liege
Name: Diamond Liege
County: Gloucester
State: New Jersey
Birth Date: 16 Oct 1898
Race: White
FHL Roll Number: 1712106
DraftBoard: 1


so the family must to be in 1900 census of Pennsylvania... I cannot find no one name almost similar... so was really Donato the first name? because:
1930 United States Federal Census
about Tony Lize
Name: Tony Lize
Home in 1930: Deptford, Gloucester, New Jersey
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Age: 59
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1871
Birthplace: Italy
Relation to Head of House: Head
Spouse's Name: Mary Lize
Race: White
Occupation:

Education:

Military Service:

Rent/home value:

Age at first marriage:

Parents' birthplace: View image
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Household Members: Name Age
Tony Lize 59 imm. 1889(?)..Alien
Mary Lize 50 imm. 1887...Alien

Domnick Lize 23
Carrie Lize 20
Pet Lize 17
Marion Lize 14
Charles Lize 9
Mary Lize 20

Tony... maybe used Tony because the first name was Donatantonio( Donato + Antonio)?
In 1910 the family was in NJ, but I cannot find it in Gloucester Co, NJ and no in all NJ!
The finding of 1900/10 censuses could be very helpfuls, because we can have a better ide of the surname spelling... I see a wedding photo of your ancestor in the genealogic tree.. where they married? Most probably around the 1895 in PA?
If your ancestors was sicilian the surname could be Liggio or Lizzio, but it is hard to say...
If you have more details please give us, maybe we can search better....
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Re: Family Surname Lieze

Postby suanj » 02 Aug 2011, 18:06

just a update; Diamond/Darmond Lieze(son of Donato)wife was Lillian Wren:
1930 United States Federal Census
about Diamond Size Name: Diamond Size
Home in 1930: Deptford, Gloucester, New Jersey
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Age: 31
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1899
Birthplace: Pennsylvania
Relation to Head of House: Son-in-Law
Spouse's Name: Lillian Size
Race: White
Occupation:

Education:

Military Service:

Rent/home value:

Age at first marriage:

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Household Members: Name Age
William J Wren 62
Emma T Wren 48
William J Wren 19
Catherine Wren 17
Elmer F Wren 10
Diamond Size 31
Lillian Size 22


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Re: Family Surname Lieze

Postby Lieze-Adams » 07 Aug 2011, 13:16

Thank you for the help. I continue to run into the issue of not being able to determine what the italian surname really is --- Lieze, Lize ? poor work by census takers or the inability of people to spell - really want to know where we come from.

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Re: Family Surname Lieze

Postby suanj » 07 Aug 2011, 16:15

Hi, thanks for the reply.. I searched so much and I have a idea abt the surname; but I believe no that your Donato was born in Sicily...

we know by 1920 census that Donato children was ( Darmond Leize is not in the census):
(1. Darmond Leize b. 16 Oct 1898 PA; spouse Lillian Wren in NJ abt in 1929/30)
2.Anne Lieze 19 PA
3.Teressa Lieze 15 PA
4.Dominick Lieze 13 NJ
5.Carrie Lieze 10 NJ
6.Peter Lieze 7 NJ
[2 6/12]
7.Marian Lieze 4 NJ
[4 5/12]

I am pretty sure that:
Anna Leize (2) married at Rocco Medaglia in 1920 Philadelphia (after 1920 census):

Groom's Name: Rocco Medaglia
Bride's Name: Lieze
Marriage License Year: 1920
License Number: 433239
Image Number: 00160
Digital Folder Number: 4141786

Groom's Name: Medaglia
Bride's Name: Anna Lieze
Marriage License Year: 1920
License Number: 433239
Image Number: 00146
Digital Folder Number: 4141769

the family in 1930 census:


1930 United States Federal Census about Anna Medaglia
Name: Anna Medaglia
Home in 1930: Philadelphia, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania
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Age: 28

Estimated Birth Year: abt 1902
Relation to Head of House: Wife
Spouse's Name: Rocco Medaglia

Race: White
Occupation:

Education:

Military Service:

Rent/home value:

Age at first marriage:

Parents' birthplace:
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Household Members: Name Age
Rocco Medaglia
37
Anna Medaglia
28
Cameillo Medaglia
8
Anthony Medaglia
4


Rocco Medaglia was born in Rapino a small village in Chieti province, Abruzzo region:

New York Passenger Lists, 1820-1957 about Rocco Medaglia
Name: Rocco Medaglia
Arrival Date: 15 Jun 1907
Birth Year: abt 1889
Birth Location Other: rapires ( Rapino)
Age: 18
Gender: Male
Ethnicity/Race¬/Nationality: Italian (South) (Italian)
Port of Departure: Naples, Italy
Port of Arrival: New York, New York
Ship Name: Cretic


Rocco was born in 1889:
NAME: Rocco Medaglia
BIRTH: 19 Jan 1889 - Chieti, Italy
RESIDENCE: Philadelphia, Pennsylvania



Marion Leize(7) spouse Ernesto Nardone:
Groom's Name: Ernesto Nardone
Bride's Name: Lieze
Marriage License Year: 1937
License Number: 684828
Image Number: 00164
Digital Folder Number: 4141807


Groom's Name: Nardone
Bride's Name: Marion Lieze
Marriage License Year: 1937
License Number: 684828
Image Number: 00146
Digital Folder Number: 4141769


deaths:
NAME: Ernesto R. Nardone
BIRTH: 9 Nov 1916
DEATH: 18 May 1996 - Knoxville, Knox, Tennessee, United States of America
CIVIL: Pennsylvania


NAME: Marion Nardone
BIRTH: 2 Feb 1916
DEATH: 25 Oct 2008 - Bryn Mawr, Delaware, Pennsylvania, United States of America


I am positive that the parents of Ernesto Nardone also coming from Abruzzo or Molise regions(until 1964 the regions was only 1 region called Abruzzi).... also if Ernesto Nardone father- Frank Nardone- was born or emigrated in France and after emigrated in USA:

1930 United States Federal Census
about Frank Nardone
Name: Frank Nardone
Home in 1930: Philadelphia, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania
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Age: 43
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1887
Birthplace: France
Relation to Head of House: Head
Spouse's Name: Angelina Nardone ( nee Roselli)
Race: White
Occupation:

Education:

Military Service:

Rent/home value:

Age at first marriage:

Parents' birthplace: View image
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Household Members: Name Age
Frank Nardone 43
Angelina Nardone 45
Antonio Nardone 19
Jennie Nardone 17
Louis Nardone 15
Ernest Nardone 14
Rosie Nardone 12
Domenick Nardone 10
Lucy Nardone 3

1920 United States Federal Census
about Frank Nardone Name: Frank Nardone
Home in 1920: Philadelphia Ward 3, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania
Age: 32
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1888
Birthplace: Italy
Relation to Head of House: Self (Head)
[Head]
Spouse's Name: Angela Nardone
Father's Birth Place: Italy
Mother's Birth Place: Italy
Marital Status: Married
Race: White
Sex: Male
Home owned: Rent
Year of immigration: 1910
Able to read: Yes
Able to Write: Yes
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Frank Nardone 32
Angela Nardone 35
Anthony Nardone 9
John Nardone 7
Louis Nardone 5
Ernest Nardone 3
[3 6/12]
Rose Nardone 0
[8/12]

World War I Draft Registration Cards, 1917-1918
about Francesco Nardone Name: Francesco Nardone
City: Philadelphia
County: Philadelphia
State: Pennsylvania
Birthplace: France
Birth Date: 16 Dec 1887
Race: Caucasian (White)
FHL Roll Number: 1907528
DraftBoard: 3

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Nardone is a surname of southern Italy , also present in Abruzzo and Molise regions as a well Roselli surname....


So my idea is, that was a tradition of to marry in foreign country, with a immigrant coming from same italian region especially, or almost coming from a region very close own birth area:

it is possible that also Donato, as a well Maria the wife, they coming from same birth area of Rocco Medaglia and Ernesto Nardone grandparents?

the Maria maiden name was (by genealogic tree on ancestry.com): Schafflera...

obviously is wrong, but I believe correct: STAFFIERI

now if this my idea is right( maybe I am wrong) well, in this case the Donato surname could be: LIZZI

so my idea is that Donato and Maria was no born in Sicily, but between Abruzzo or Molise or Campania region.... however in southern Italy but not in Sicily...
with the names of:
Donato Lizzi and Maria Staffieri...
just a my suggestion, sorry for long post,
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