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Giuseppe Puma Immigration to America

Postby rp76226 » 20 Aug 2011, 04:59

Giuseppe Puma was born September 26, 1879 in Racalmuto, Sicily to parents Giovanni Puma (1854 -1899) and Maria Concetta Grillo (1855-1914). He married Rosalia Anna Chiodo (1883-1965)in Manhattan on December 18, 1904. According to the 1930 census both Giuseppe and his wife immigrated to America, before they were married, in 1903. I can find her immigration records, but not his. Giuseppe died in 1953 in the Bronx. They had six children. One of them, Joseph John Puma (1927-2000), was a jazz guitarist who played regularly in the Northeast with several bands and had a couple of Jazz records (you can Google him).
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Re: Giuseppe Puma Immigration to America

Postby johnnyonthespot » 20 Aug 2011, 13:57

Notice that the immigration dates are different in the 1920 census, showing once again that census information cannot be taken at face value:

1920 United States Federal Census about Rose Buma
Name: Rose Buma
[Rose Burna]
Home in 1920: Bronx Assembly District 7, Bronx, New York
Age: 36
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1884
Birthplace: Italy
Relation to Head of House: Wife
Spouse's Name: Joseph Buma
Father's Birth Place: Italy
Mother's Birth Place: Italy
Marital Status: Married
Race: White
Sex: Female
Year of immigration: 1902
Able to read: Yes
Able to Write: Yes
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Joseph Buma 41
Rose Buma 36
Marie Buma 14
Rudolph Buma 13
Anna Buma 9
Jennie Buma 6

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Re: Giuseppe Puma Immigration to America

Postby suanj » 20 Aug 2011, 15:23

Hi, maybe this is your Giuseppe arrival:
First Name: Guiseppe
Last Name: Puima
Ethnicity: Italy, Italian
Last Place of Residence: Recalmato
Date of Arrival: Apr 08, 1902
Age at Arrival: 22y Gender: M Marital Status: S
Ship of Travel: Citta di Genova
Port of Departure: Naples, Italy
Manifest Line Number: 0004


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Re: Giuseppe Puma Immigration to America

Postby johnnyonthespot » 20 Aug 2011, 17:01

In case you don't already have Rosalia's actual manifest, here you go:

New York Passenger Lists, 1820-1957 about Rusalia Chisas
Name: Rusalia Chisas
Arrival Date: 19 Jun 1903
Birth Year: abt 1884
Age: 19
Gender: Female
Ethnicity/Race­/Nationality: Italian
Port of Departure: Palermo
Port of Arrival: New York, New York
Ship Name: Phoenicia

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Re: Giuseppe Puma Immigration to America

Postby johnnyonthespot » 20 Aug 2011, 17:46

I wonder if this could be your Joseph Puma?

New York County Supreme Court Naturalization Petition Index, 1907-24 about Joseph Puma
Name: Joseph Puma
Address: 332 E. 112 St.
Date: 1 Jul 1908
Volume #: 6
Page #: 138

I had high hopes of finding the Puma family in the 1910 census at 332 East 112th Street, but unfortunately no...

At any rate, the naturalization documents (if this is your Joseph) should state the date of arrival and name of ship.
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Re: Giuseppe Puma Immigration to America

Postby rp76226 » 20 Aug 2011, 18:36

Johnny, I would need to access the Naturalization data to find if there is more information to confirm that this is the person I seek. How do I do that? Ron
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Re: Giuseppe Puma Immigration to America

Postby johnnyonthespot » 20 Aug 2011, 18:36

Did you know Rodolfo (Italian spelling) had a twin brother?

See http://www.italiangen.org/nycbirthresults.asp?kind=exact&Esurname=puma&Efirst=&CertNbr=&StartYear=&EndYear=&County=Manhattan&B1=Submit

Family Name-Given-Name-Month of Birth-Day of Birth-Year of Birth-Certificate Number County
Puma Giovanni Oct 24 1906 52340 Manhattan
Puma Rodolf Oct 24 1906 52339 Manhattan


Possibly he died at a young age:

Surname-Given Name-Age-Month-Day-Year-Certificate Number-County
Puma John 1 y Feb 8 1908 4546 Manhattan

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Re: Giuseppe Puma Immigration to America

Postby johnnyonthespot » 20 Aug 2011, 19:06

rp76226 wrote:Johnny, I would need to access the Naturalization data to find if there is more information to confirm that this is the person I seek. How do I do that? Ron


Try here for information:


OLD RECORDS AND ARCHIVAL MATERIAL
31 Chambers Street, 7th Floor
New York, New York 10007

Division of Old Records - Joseph Van Nostrand
646-386-5395

http://www.nycourts.gov/supctmanh/phone_listings.htm
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Re: Giuseppe Puma Immigration to America

Postby rp76226 » 20 Aug 2011, 21:55

Johnny, on the twin brother for Rudolpho, I am familiar with the site you sent me to. Since it doesn't give the parents' names of the children, how do you confirm that these are the right people? Many people share the same exact name.
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Re: Giuseppe Puma Immigration to America

Postby johnnyonthespot » 20 Aug 2011, 22:11

The two boys are clearly twins, born on the same day and sequential certificate numbers. They were born in 1906 in Manhattan "county" which agrees with the census for Rodolfo, and there is a related death certificate for John, aged 1 in February 1908 - if this is the same Giovanni, he would have been 1 year and 3 to 4 months old in February, 1908.

The coincidences are very substantial. Granted, you will have to see birth certificates to confirm, but I will bet you coffee and a donut that these guys belong to your family.

Did you notice Maria's birth listed on that same site, born in 1905? This also agrees with the census data.

If we could find the 1910 census (I have searched extensively), we would have more info: the 1910 census includes columns for the total number of children born to a mother and the number of children still living.
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Re: Giuseppe Puma Immigration to America

Postby johnnyonthespot » 20 Aug 2011, 22:20

PS: Before you ask ( :) ) it was very common in Italian (and European) culture when a child died before reaching adulthood to name the next born child of the same sex after the deceased.

If I am correct then (per 1930 census):

Joseph Puma 50
Rose Puma 46
Rudolph Puma 23
Giovanni/John (Rodolfo's twin, deceased at age 1 yr 3 months)
Jennie Puma 17
John Puma 10 (next born male child named after deceased twin)
Joseph Puma 2

PPS: Did I mention that Rodolfo/Rudolph is a quite unusual name? How many Rodolfo Puma's can you find in available resources?
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Re: Giuseppe Puma Immigration to America

Postby rp76226 » 20 Aug 2011, 22:53

Thank you. I've added the twin brother to my tree. I am well aware of the Italian naming traditions and have seen that type of naming sequence repeated many times. That is a good site and I've used it. I can't understand why, if they went through birth records, etc which had parent's names that they chose not to include that information. Then it would become a great site. It's incredibly expensive to send away for the origianl documents which may or may not confirm relationships.
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