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Look up: Domencio Croce

Postby BenDK » 01 Sep 2011, 18:17

Wondering if anyone could do a quick look up for me, on:

Domencio Croce

(no known birth/death years)

Parents:

Father: Danato Croce

Mother: Anna Croce (Ranalli)

Known Siblings:

Croce, Vincenzo

b. May 07 1895

Montefino, Italy

d. Apr 1981

Italy

Croce, Antonio

b. Feb 28 1897

Fugento, Italy

d. Dec 29 1972

Hershey, Pennsylvania

Di Blasio (Croce), Caroline

b. 1886

Montefino, Teramo

Possible hints/help:

* Most likely (seems obvious from the other births of his siblings) born in Italy (not sure where at in Italy though)

* Most likely around 1880-1890

* Death: Most likely before 1972, as I believe Antonio Croce was the oldest to survive (though this isn't a guarantee, so Domencio could have lived past 1972).

Thank you very much.

-Janet Croce

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Re: Look up: Domencio Croce

Postby johnnyonthespot » 01 Sep 2011, 18:37

Not a lot to work with here. :)

What kind of work did Domenico do? Where did he reside in the US?

Social Security Death Index about Domenico Croce
Name: Domenico Croce
SSN: xxx-xx-xxxx
Last Residence: New York
Born: 22 Jan 1889
Died: Jan 1964
State (Year) SSN issued: New York (Before 1951)


Social Security Death Index about Domenico Croce
Name: Domenico Croce
SSN: xxx-xx-xxxx
Last Residence: Massachusetts
Born: 13 Jul 1892
Died: Apr 1964
State (Year) SSN issued: Massachusetts (1952-1955)
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Re: Look up: Domencio Croce

Postby BenDK » 01 Sep 2011, 18:40

Sadly (and sorry) pretty much all I've put on here, is all I have.

Here is a link to the family tree page for him, if that provides anything more:

http://benjamindkline.tribalpages.com/f ... oce-Family

Thanks for all the help!

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Re: Look up: Domencio Croce

Postby johnnyonthespot » 01 Sep 2011, 18:49

There are a lot of Domenico Croce records at Ancestry.com; even narrowing down to persons born 1880-1890 there is still way too many to figure out which Domenico is yours without additional input.

I have just looked at a bunch of draft registrations in the hope that one will mention his father or mother as next-of-kin, but no luck yet. I will try the same with passenger manifests...
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Re: Look up: Domencio Croce

Postby suanj » 01 Sep 2011, 21:25

hi, I found only:

New York Passenger Lists, 1820-1957
about Domenico Croce
Name: Domenico Croce
Arrival Date: 16 Sep 1910
Birth Year: abt 1893
Birth Location: Italy
Birth Location Other: mutefino ( Montefino)

Age: 17
Gender: Male
Ethnicity/Race­/Nationality: Italian (South) (Italian)
Port of Departure: Naples, Italy
Port of Arrival: New York, New York
Ship Name: Cretic
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pag 2
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lefting mother Maria Domenica in Montefino; joining at brother in law Antonio Di Blasio in PA..
It could be your Domenico???
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Re: Look up: Domencio Croce

Postby BenDK » 01 Sep 2011, 21:36

suanj wrote:hi, I found only:

New York Passenger Lists, 1820-1957
about Domenico Croce
Name: Domenico Croce
Arrival Date: 16 Sep 1910
Birth Year: abt 1893
Birth Location: Italy
Birth Location Other: mutefino ( Montefino)

Age: 17
Gender: Male
Ethnicity/Race­/Nationality: Italian (South) (Italian)
Port of Departure: Naples, Italy
Port of Arrival: New York, New York
Ship Name: Cretic
pag 1 Image

pag 2
Image

lefting mother Maria Domenica in Montefino; joining at brother in law Antonio Di Blasio in PA..
It could be your Domenico???
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This definitely sounds like the one from my family. His sister (Caroline) married a Di Blasio. And most likely since his brother lived in PA I'd assume Domencio would as well. His mother was also Domenica.

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Re: Look up: Domencio Croce

Postby BenDK » 01 Sep 2011, 21:39

So, that makes it look like, for looking up:

Domencio Croce
Birth: (ABT) : 1893
Location: Montefino, Italy

Death: (Most likely Before 1980)
Location: (Most likely PA)

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Re: Look up: Domencio Croce

Postby johnnyonthespot » 01 Sep 2011, 21:56

I saw that manifest also, but I thought Domenico's mother was Anna?
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Re: Look up: Domencio Croce

Postby BenDK » 01 Sep 2011, 22:00

Domencio's mother's name:

Croce (Ranalli), Anna Domencia

When making the family tree I had a discrepency with that. My aunt said her middle name was Marie instead of Domencia while my mother claimed her first name was Anna Marie. Both said she only went by Anna as a first name though.

So her first name could have been Anna Marie - her middle name then being Domencia - and then her last name being Ranalli (until getting married, when it would then be Croce).

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Re: Look up: Domencio Croce

Postby BenDK » 01 Sep 2011, 22:02

I'm thinking the manifest listed Domencio is the one, due to him having a sister who married an Antonio di Blasio.

His sister:
(from the family tree page):


Di Blasio (Croce), Caroline

b. 1886
Montefino, Teramo
m. Di Blasio, Antonio


So this really looks like the most likely Domencio.

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Re: Look up: Domencio Croce

Postby BenDK » 01 Sep 2011, 22:03

I found these immigration notes for Caroline:


Immigration Notes:

12 Apr 1912: SS Cedric Naples to NY

Carolina Croce Di Blasio 26 (abt 1886)
- married
- last residence Montefino, Teramo
- in Montefino, mother Domenica Ranalli
- destination Annville PA
- not in US before
- joining husband Antonio Di Blasio at box 105 Annville PA
- note: traveling with page J, lines 1/2
- born in Montefino, Teramo

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Re: Look up: Domencio Croce

Postby johnnyonthespot » 01 Sep 2011, 22:11

Ahh, okay; I was paying attention only to your first post which says mother's name is Anna. I didn't look closely enough at your tree posted on the other site.

Looking in the Social Security Death Index http://ssdi.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/ssdi.cgi the only likely candidate (based on year of birth) I find is this one:

Social Security Death Index about Domenico Croce
Name: Domenico Croce
SSN: xxx-xx-xxxx
Last Residence: Massachusetts
Born: 13 Jul 1892
Died: Apr 1964
State (Year) SSN issued: Massachusetts (1952-1955)

If he died after 1962, he should be in the SSDI.
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Re: Look up: Domencio Croce

Postby johnnyonthespot » 01 Sep 2011, 22:18

This looks like the same guy as the SSDI above. Birthplace Abruzzo; Montefino is in Abruzzo...

U.S. World War II Draft Registration Cards, 1942 about Domenico Croce
Name: Domenico Croce
Birth Date: 15 Jul 1892
Birth Place: Abbruzze, Italy
Residence: Suffolk, Massachusetts
Race: White


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Re: Look up: Domencio Croce

Postby johnnyonthespot » 02 Sep 2011, 02:14

BenDK wrote:Domencio's mother's name:
...
So her first name could have been Anna Marie - her middle name then being Domencia - and then her last name being Ranalli (until getting married, when it would then be Croce).


By the way, just in case you aren't already aware:

If Anna Maria Domenica Ranalli lived and died in Italy, then her last name was never Croce.

Italian women, then and now, do not change their surname upon marriage. At most, she might have referred to herself as Anna Maria Domenica Ranalli in Croce thus indicating her marital state. However, her legal documents such as passport, ID card, driver's license, etc, etc, would all remain in the Ranalli surname for her entire life.

That is why when searching for a married woman's passenger manifest, you are more likely to find her by searching for her maiden name. If she traveled with children (but not her husband), you will typically find the manifest as:

Smith, Mary
son Jones, William
son Jones, Thomas
daughter Jones, Carol

or something like that. True, it isn't always done this way, but more often than not in my experience.
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Re: Look up: Domencio Croce

Postby BenDK » 02 Sep 2011, 15:32

johnnyonthespot wrote:This looks like the same guy as the SSDI above. Birthplace Abruzzo; Montefino is in Abruzzo...

U.S. World War II Draft Registration Cards, 1942 about Domenico Croce
Name: Domenico Croce
Birth Date: 15 Jul 1892
Birth Place: Abbruzze, Italy
Residence: Suffolk, Massachusetts
Race: White


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No real way to 100% confirm though huh? Nothing that gives father's name?


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