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Surname Lizzi

Postby Lieze-Adams » 11 Sep 2011, 15:32

Possible that family name was lost when immigrated to United States.

Looking for any help on names Donato Lizzi and Maria Staffieri.

Thanks to those in Italy who have helped me get to this point.

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Re: Surname Lizzi

Postby johnnyonthespot » 11 Sep 2011, 15:57

Lieze-Adams wrote:Possible that family name was lost when immigrated to United States.

Looking for any help on names Donato Lizzi and Maria Staffieri.

Thanks to those in Italy who have helped me get to this point.


We'll need some more information:

Date or approximate year of birth for Donato and Maria?

Any idea where they lived in the US?

Children's names and year of birth?

Are you looking for info on the family after arriving in the US, or while still in Italy?
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Re: Surname Lizzi

Postby adelfio » 11 Sep 2011, 16:08

Welcome there was a thread started on subject here it is from previous post
topic22354.html#p166316

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Postby suanj » 11 Sep 2011, 18:33

Lieze-Adams wrote:Possible that family name was lost when immigrated to United States.

Looking for any help on names Donato Lizzi and Maria Staffieri.

Thanks to those in Italy who have helped me get to this point.

Hi, my suggestion( in previous topic) abt the probable surname spelling, it is just a suggestion.... also abt Staffieri, just by soundex with the Mary maiden name "Schefflera" because "Schefflera" exist not in Italy....
You have death certificate of Mary?

New Jersey Deaths and Burials, 1720-1988 for Mrs. Donato Lieze

Name: Mrs. Donato Lieze
Gender: Female
Burial Date:
Burial Place:
Death Date: 12 Apr 1939
Death Place:
Age:
Birth Date:
Birthplace:
Occupation:
Race:
Marital Status:
Spouse's Name:
Father's Name:
Father's Birthplace:
Mother's Name:
Mother's Birthplace:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: I01054-1
System Origin: New Jersey-EASy
Source Film Number: 1001881
Reference Number:
maybe you will find more helpful info abt the her parents...

I know that Donato children:
Darmond, Anna and Theresa Lieze was born in Pennsylvania;

I know that Darmond Lieze lived in Philadelphia, and the him sisters married in Philadelphia:
Anna Lieze ( married at Rocco Medaglia)
and
Marion Lieze( married at Ernesto Nardone)

Now maybe Darmond, Anna and Theresa Lieze (Donato children) was born also in Philadelphia, or in some other Pennsylvania town....
I cannot find the family in 1900 census in Pennsylvania...
as a well the 1910 census in New Jersey....

I found a marriage record:

Pennsylvania, Philadelphia Marriage Indexes, 1885-1951

Groom's Name: Donato Laisi
Bride's Name: Ciufoletti ( full name: Marianna Ciuffoletti)
Marriage License Year: 1894
License Number: 72337
Image Number: 00011
Digital Folder Number: 4141875

as you can see the bride maiden name is Ciuffoletti and not "Schefflera"... a baby died in 1898:

Name: Tony Laizze
Death Date: 05 Jun 1898
Death Place: Philadelphia, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania
Gender: Male
Race: White
Death Age: 2 years

Estimated Birth Year: 1896
Birth Date:
Birthplace: Phila.
Marital Status: Single
Spouse's Name:
Father's Name: Donato Laissa
Father's Birthplace:
Mother's Name: Maria Laissa
Mother's Birthplace:
Occupation:
Street Address: 708 Christion (Christian st)
Place of Residence:
Cemetery: St Mary
Burial Place:
Burial Date: 06 Jun 1898
Additional Relatives:
Film Number: 1870646
Digital Folder Number: 4009689
Image Number: 1275
Reference Number: cn 24155
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what are your suggestions? you think that the marriage record could be abt you Donato? where you found "Schefflera" maiden name of Mary ???
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Re: Surname Lizzi

Postby Lieze-Adams » 09 Oct 2011, 14:37

Interesting information. Where do Donato's and Mary's names originate in Italy?

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Postby suanj » 09 Oct 2011, 15:19

Before of to say where do Donato's and Mary's names originate in Italy,it need of to know Donato surname right spelling..
you think that Donato "Laisi" and Marianna Ciuffoletti( or Cioffoletti) marriage record could be right?
It is important because if so, by marriage certificate you can descover more abt Donato... I am a bit positive abt that, because the names are no most populars..
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Re: Surname Lizzi

Postby ibeirish » 09 Oct 2011, 16:14

From what Suanj found, I was able to go onto FamilySearch.org and found a marriage docuemt (in order to see the image, you have to create a free account- just a username and password is all you need). Here is the link to the document: https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.2/MSJN-XX8/p2

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Re: Surname Lizzi

Postby ibeirish » 09 Oct 2011, 16:16

Oh as well as a 1920 census (not sure if you've seen this). https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.2/M8XB-4W6/p_189844966

Name: Donato Lieze
Residence: , Gloucester, New Jersey
Estimated Birth Year: 1871
Age: 49
Birthplace: Italy
Relationship to Head of Household: Self
Gender: Male
Race: White
Marital Status: Married
Father's Birthplace: Italy
Mother's Birthplace: Italy
Film Number: 1821027
Digital Folder Number: 4313320
Image Number: 00206
Sheet Number: 10
Household Gender Age
Head Donato Lieze M 49y (worked as a farmer)
Spouse Mary Lieze F 41y
Child Darmond Lieze M 21y
Child Anne Lieze F 19y
Child Teressa Lieze F 15y
Child Dominick Lieze M 13y
Child Carrie Lieze F 10y
Child Peter Lieze M 7y6m
Child Marian Lieze F 4y5m

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Re: Surname Lizzi

Postby suanj » 09 Oct 2011, 16:44

thank you ibeirish, abt marriage record it is just by index..
for reference abt same topic

topic22354.html?hilit=lieze#p166324

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Re: Surname Lizzi

Postby suanj » 30 Oct 2011, 15:46

Hi Lieze-Adams,
I no missed your topic, and after so much search I am pretty sure that Donato was no sicilian;
my opinion is that:
-the Donato surname spelling is LAUSI
-and Marianna maiden name is CIOFFOLETTI;

I believe that they coming from same place:
-Campagna town (or surroundings area, but Campagna is the best probability), Salerno province, Campania region,IT.

I no found the Donato arrival, but maybe in this ship's manifest
http://www.ellisisland.org/EIFile/popup ... &line=0533
line 531 it are a Donato "Zaizio" age 26, labourer, from Campagna, final destination NY..
now "Zaizio" not exist in Italy;

on line 533 it are a Donato LAUSI age 49, shoemaker from Campagna final destination Philadelphia...

it is possible that the surname of young Donato was Lausi also and itwas mistaken on the manifest? the birthyear is abt 1867 and that can explain why Donato is not in WWI draft registration card..

because if he really was born around 1871, he must be listed on the WWI draft registration card...
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Re: Surname Lizzi

Postby eguillorn » 04 Nov 2011, 16:25

During my research of family from San Giacomo Degli Schiavoni, I have come across the surname Lizzi. (it is my nickname, so it really stuck out to me!) If you give me a little more information, like approximate years of birth, I can search through the microfilm I now have through the LDS family history library. Were Donato and Maria married in Italy? Do you know if any of their children were born there, as well? The town is very, very small, so searching through the records with just a name to go on is not that difficult! But obviously, the more information I have, the easier it will be

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Re: Surname Lizzi

Postby Lieze-Adams » 05 Nov 2011, 11:31

thank you all. eguillorn we have been working on tracking - here is a link to our family tree and the place we are stuck with Donato http://trees.ancestry.com/tree/18122891 ... =610220712

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Re: Surname Lizzi

Postby eguillorn » 21 Nov 2011, 20:27

I went back through the film and could not find a Donato, but the birth, death and marriage records for the town of San Giacomo degli Schiavoni in Campobasso are loaded with people who have the last name of LIZZI. I'm not sure if you have found out that the last name was not Lizzi after all, but that surname does in fact exist in Italian records. I'm not sure if this is any help to you...

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Re: Surname Lizzi

Postby cadevine » 23 Nov 2011, 01:10

Hi I am also trying to get in touch with someone that may know of my beloved Grandfather Luigi Gaitanella. I know he was born in Italy and widowed by his first wife then he married my beloved Grandmother Carmella and I am named after her. I hope some one can help me. I am new to this site just registerd today

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Postby suanj » 23 Nov 2011, 10:37

cadevine wrote:Hi I am also trying to get in touch with someone that may know of my beloved Grandfather Luigi Gaitanella. I know he was born in Italy and widowed by his first wife then he married my beloved Grandmother Carmella and I am named after her. I hope some one can help me. I am new to this site just registerd today

Hi and welcome!
It is better to start a new topic abt Gaitanella search... maybe the italian surname spelling is Gaetanello...
However I found a Luigi Gaetanello born on 17th Dec. 1893in Rionero in Vulture (Potenza province, Basilicata region; imm. in 1912; married at Gerarda, decesead on 26 jul 1916 in Pittsburgh, PA;
petition of naturalization:

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married again at Carmela and in 1930 census the probable record:
1930 United States Federal Census about Louis Gattinello
Name: Louis Gattinello
Birth Year: abt 1895
Birthplace: Italy
Home in 1930: Pittsburgh, Allegheny, Pennsylvania
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Relation to Head of House: Head
Spouse's Name: Carmela Gattinello
Occupation:

Education:

Military Service:

Rent/home value:

Age at first marriage:

Parents' birthplace:
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Neighbors: View others on page

Household Members: Name Age
Louis Gattinello
35
Carmela Gattinello
34
Daniel Gattinello
15
Lucy Gattinello
9
Mauro Gattinello
5
Mary Gattinello
4 4/12
Anthony Gattinello
3 5/12
Louis Gattinello
10/12



arrival:
New York Passenger Lists, 1820-1957
about Luigi Gaetaniello
Name: Luigi Gaetaniello
Arrival Date: 27 Mar 1912
Birth Year: abt 1894
Birth Location: Italy
Birth Location Other: riovero( Rionero in Vulture)
Age: 18
Gender: Male
Ethnicity/Race­/Nationality: Italian (South) (Italian)
Port of Departure: Napoli
Port of Arrival: New York, New York
Ship Name: America

mother Lucia in Rionero in Vulture, joining at father Donato :

pag 1 http://www.ellisisland.org/EIFile/popup ... &line=0006

pag 2 http://www.ellisisland.org/EIFile/popup ... &line=0006

Donato Gaetanello arrival:
First Name: Donato
Last Name: Guatamello
Ethnicity: Italy, Italian South
Last Place of Residence: Rionero, Polenzi
Date of Arrival: Feb 26, 1909
Age at Arrival: 46y Gender: M Marital Status: M
Ship of Travel: Re d Italia
Port of Departure: Naples
Manifest Line Number: 0021
pag 1 http://www.ellisisland.org/EIFile/popup ... &line=0021
wife Lucia( maiden name: Carone?? no much readable) in Rionero

pag 2 http://www.ellisisland.org/EIFile/popup ... &line=0021
joining at brother Mauro

previous trip:
First Name: Donato
Last Name: Gaetaniello
Ethnicity: Italy, Italian
Last Place of Residence: Reoniso
Date of Arrival: Oct 08, 1902

Age at Arrival: 39y Gender: M Marital Status: M
Ship of Travel: Sardegna
Port of Departure: Naples
Manifest Line Number: 0007
Joining at brother Mauro Gaetanello( on the ship's manifest the surname is wrote Gaetano, but Gaetanello is right)

http://www.ellisisland.org/EIFile/popup ... &line=0007

it is the Luigi that you are searching for?
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