Antonio De Angelis

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Antonio De Angelis

Postby CZeek » 18 Sep 2011, 21:11

I am looking for information on my GGF Antonio De Angelis (Deangelis in some records). He was married to Raffaela Donnrumma (Donaruma?) in Naples about 1899. Antonio and Raffaela lived in Newark, NJ and had 7 children (as far as I know): John (Giovanni), Caroline, Anna, Mary, Fred, Antonette, and Edith. Mary is my grandmother and she was born in Newark, NJ.

I am trying to find a little more out about my GGF and GGM and I am having some problems:
1) I cannot find either of them in the Social Security Death index and therefore don't know exactly how the gov't has their names registered or their exact dates of death. I do have their Holy Cards which list dates of their death but I don't know how official this is.
2) Through Ancestry.com, I find a couple other De Angelis' from different areas on the east coast with similar info (same parents names, some of the kids names match) but they are, in some cases from census reports done in totally different states for the same year (census report in 1910 has two families w similar family info but one is in Newark and the other is in Boston.) I also have found families w the same surname, parents names and similar kid info in Philly but the age difference recorded doesn't match the other census reports. I'm not sure who to believe!
3) I do not know how to find out my GGF actual birthday and New Jersey is insanely lame about their vital records that I can't search anything online.

I would like to gather birth certificates, marriage certificates and find out when my GGF came here and naturalized but because I don't know his birthdate I am stuck.

Any advice on how I can find out his birthdate would be awesome!! I know he wasn't born in the US and I am willing to contact the record keepers in Italy to get actual proof but I want to see his naturalization records first and I can't do that without a birthdate.

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Re: Antonio De Angelis

Postby pink67 » 19 Sep 2011, 14:38

2) Through Ancestry.com, I find a couple other De Angelis' from different areas on the east coast with similar info (same parents names, some of the kids names match) but they are, in some cases from census reports done in totally different states for the same year (census report in 1910 has two families w similar family info but one is in Newark and the other is in Boston.)


Possibly they were living in Boston because on the site Familysearch.org ther's a birth record for Anna De Angelis born on 5 december 1910 in Boston:

Massachusetts Births, 1841-1915

Name: Anna De Angelis
Titles & Terms:
Event: Birth
Event Date: 05 Dec 1910
Event Place: Boston, Massachusetts
Gender:
Race:
Registration Date:
Registration Place:
Christening Date:
Christening Place:
Christening Age:
Death Date:
Death Age:
Father: Antonio De Angelis
Father's Titles & Terms:
Father's Birthplace:
Father's Age:
Mother: Raffaela Donnarumma
Mother's Titles & Terms:
Mother's Birthplace:
Mother's Age:
Paternal Grandfather:
Paternal Grandmother:
Maternal Grandfather:
Maternal Grandmother:
Additional Relatives:
Volume/Page/Certificate Number: p 300
Film Number: 2315296
Digital Folder Number: 4401713
Image Number: 884

Address was 96 Cottage street

image here:
https://www.familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3 ... cc=1536925

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Re: Antonio De Angelis

Postby pink67 » 19 Sep 2011, 15:01

For references the 1920 census:

1920 United States Federal Census

Name: Tony De Angles
Home in 1920: Newark Ward 1, Essex, New Jersey
Age: 42
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1878
Birthplace: Italy
Relation to Head of House: Self (Head) [Head]
Spouse's Name: Raffle De Angles
Father's Birth Place: Italy
Mother's Birth Place: Italy
Marital Status: Married
Race: White
Sex: Male
Home owned: Rent
Year of immigration: 1902
Able to read: Yes
Able to Write: No
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Tony De Angles 42 head, born in Italy, immigr. year 1902
Raffle De Angles 44[41] wife, born in Italy, immigr. year 1902
John De Angles 18 son, single, born in Italy, immigr. year 1902
Carolyn De Angles 15, daughter born in NJ
Rose De Angles 14 daughter, born in NJ
Ferdinand De Angles 12, son, born in NJ
Annie De Angles 9 daughter, born in NJ
Mary De Angles 7 daughter, born in NJ
Antonetta De Angles 3 [3 5/12] daughter, born in NJ

address: 47 Sixt Avenue, Newark

image from Ancestry.com:
http://postimage.org/image/2qfgrcbtw/

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Re: Antonio De Angelis

Postby pink67 » 19 Sep 2011, 15:22

Arrival manifest For Raffella Donnarumma and son Giovanni on 1902:

http://www.ellisisland.org/EIFile/popup ... &line=0011

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ps last residence in Italy looks like Siano, Salerno province, Campania region.

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Re: Antonio De Angelis

Postby pink67 » 19 Sep 2011, 15:31

From the WW1 Draft Registration Card for Antonio you can see the approx. birthdate..

World War I Draft Registration Cards, 1917-1918

Name: Antonio Deangelis
City: Newark
County: Essex
State: New Jersey
Birth Date: 20 May 1878
Race: White
FHL Roll Number: 1754028
DraftBoard: 10

link to the image on Ancestry.com:
http://search.ancestry.com/iexec?htx=Vi ... d=32558065

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Re: Antonio De Angelis

Postby MariaAnnMM » 22 Sep 2011, 10:00

Wow Pink67 (Laura) - You are amazing! I have been on those same websites hundreds of times and never found those records! You rock! (Antonio is my Great Grandfather as well.) Can you help me find other records for some of the other branches of my family tree?


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