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Postby bethhyche » 09 Oct 2011, 23:45

I am trying to find information on my great great grandfather, Sam Messina, I found some papers my grandmother has. He was arrested in Alabama for murder in in like the early 1900's not sure of the date, I have a part of the news article, he ran back to Italy to keep from being hung, but I can't seem to find anything on him on the interent, maybe i'm just not looking in the right spots, could anyone help me with this?

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Re: messina

Postby adelfio » 10 Oct 2011, 15:45

Welcome to the website. Do you know what town of Italy he went to? Also how about a birth date? Parents and wifes name? Will help in researching Sam

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Postby Paolo47 » 12 Oct 2011, 13:20

Hello Beth and Marty,
This might be the article about your gg grandfather if you don't have it.
Dated March 20, 1917, Birmingham, Alabama.
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Postby suanj » 12 Oct 2011, 17:53

Hi Beth,
searching abt your Sam Messina, I searched abt the Messinas in Alabama, and because Sam first name was used in the USA in place of Salvatore italian first name, so your Sam was really Salvatore Messina;

the Messinas in Alabama coming from different sicilian places; and no many Messinas in Alabama.....

I found the 1910 census of Sam Messina

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and I believe that your Sam(Salvatore) was the brother of Onofrio Messina aka Norman Messina in USA;

Onofrio/Norman coming from Campofranco (Caltanissetta province, Sicily, IT), born on 8 feb 1883 as he declared on Declarations of Intention:
Selected U.S. Naturalization Records - Original Documents, 1790-1974
about Onofrio Messina Name: Onofrio Messina
State: Alabama
Court Type: District Court
Court Location: Birmingham, Alabama
Naturalization Record Type: Declarations of Intention
Naturalization Record Number: 1806

but maybe the birth year is no right... it is possible...

and arrived on the Cedric ship on Dec 30, 1906 :

First Name: Onofrio
Last Name: Mesfena (Messina)
Ethnicity: Italy, Italian South
Last Place of Residence: Campofranco
Date of Arrival: Dec 30, 1906
Age at Arrival: 23 Gender: M Marital Status: S
Ship of Travel: Cedric
Port of Departure: Naples
Manifest Line Number: 0021


Onofrio married at Maria Tunello/Tonello:

Groom's Name: Onofrio Messina detto Norman
Groom's Birth Date: 1884
Groom's Birthplace:
Groom's Age: 25
Bride's Name: Maria Tunello
Bride's Birth Date: 1891
Bride's Birthplace:
Bride's Age: 18
Marriage Date: 21 Oct 1909
Marriage Place: Jefferson, Alabama
Groom's Father's Name:
Groom's Mother's Name:
Bride's Father's Name:
Bride's Mother's Name:
Groom's Race:
Groom's Marital Status:
Groom's Previous Wife's Name:
Bride's Race:
Bride's Marital Status:
Bride's Previous Husband's Name:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: M74685-0

System Origin: Alabama-EASy
Source Film Number: 1064429
Reference Number: Item 2 p.75

Onofrio parents:
Father's Name: Joseph Messina (Giuseppe Messina)

Mother's Name: Rosalie Fallata ( Rosalia Falletta)


Salvatore Messina single, arrived in USA on Sep 21, 1907, joining at brother Onofrio in Birmingham, Alabama, father Giuseppe in Campofranco:

First Name: Salvatore
Last Name: Messiua
Ethnicity: Italy, Italian South
Last Place of Residence: Campofranco, Caltanisetta
Date of Arrival: Sep 21, 1907
Age at Arrival: 20y Gender: M Marital Status: S
Ship of Travel: Cretic
Port of Departure: Naples
Manifest Line Number: 0007



pag 1 http://www.ellisisland.org/EIFile/popup ... &line=0007


pag 2 http://www.ellisisland.org/EIFile/popup ... &line=0007
in the census the birthyear appearing 1885, but a error probably... because no more Salvatore/Sam Messina going in Birmingham, AL, so it must be he....


searching the birth record of Salvatore Messina in Campofranco, he was born on 17 May 1887 son of Giuseppe Messina and Rosalia Falletta:
(in right page)

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you think that this Salvatore could be your Sam? if he back in Italy, maybe he going in Campofranco....
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Postby suanj » 13 Oct 2011, 21:43

on 27 Dec. 1917, Tempie Messina, wife of Sam/Salvatore Messina, married at Luther Pugh:
Groom's Name: Luther Pugh
Groom's Birth Date: 1897
Groom's Birthplace:
Groom's Age: 20
Bride's Name: Tempie Massina
Bride's Birth Date: 1889
Bride's Birthplace:
Bride's Age: 28
Marriage Date: 27 Dec 1917
Marriage Place: B'Gham
Groom's Father's Name:
Groom's Mother's Name:
Bride's Father's Name:
Bride's Mother's Name:
Groom's Race: White
Groom's Marital Status:
Groom's Previous Wife's Name:
Bride's Race: White
Bride's Marital Status:
Bride's Previous Husband's Name:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: M74687-5

System Origin: Alabama-EASy
Source Film Number: 1064439
Reference Number: Page 442


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Postby adelfio » 14 Oct 2011, 00:23

It says on the manifest line #7 he left behind his father Giuesppe in Campofranco
If that is the right birth record birth record of Salvatore Messina in Campofranco, born on 17 May 1887 son of Giuseppe Messina and Rosalia Falletta
Possible marriage record 1878 Oct 5th from Campofranco. Giuseppe Messina son of Paolo Messina and Paolina Scribano all from Sutera and his wife Rosalia Falletta daughter of Onofrio Falletta and Vincenza Pera from Campofranco
click for marriage record click again to enlarge
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Postby suanj » 14 Oct 2011, 11:18

Thanks Marty;
the oldest son was:
MESSINA Paolo born on 16 oct 1880:
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married in Campofranco on 10 Feb. 1907 at Maria SCHIFANELLA:
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other brother:

MESSINA Onofrio( aka Norman MESSINA) born on 8 Feb 1883:
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Selected U.S. Naturalization Records - Original Documents, 1790-1974
about Onofrio Messina Name: Onofrio Messina
State: Alabama
Court Type: District Court
Court Location: Birmingham, Alabama
Naturalization Record Type: Declarations of Intention
Naturalization Record Number:

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no doubts that are the brothers of the right Sam/Salvatore Messina..
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Re: messina

Postby bethhyche » 15 Oct 2011, 02:49

thanks everyone for your help...i didn't know much of anything and yall found out sooo much thanks again


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