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From Italy

Postby Max Power » 18 Oct 2011, 16:34

Ciao a tutti!
I'm a new arrive on Italian Genealogy, having made my registration just today.
Your site is absolutely interesting and well made. Congratulations!
As many of you, I am actually continuing a big research about my ancestors, started by my uncle and actually dating back to 1800.
However, I started founding some problems, because two of my relatives immigrated to the United States back in 1900-1910, and I am Italian currently living in Nola, Campania, Italy.
Our surname is Napolitano, but my ancestors are probably called with the family name of Napolitani, the original surname changed by a mistake in an unknown period. They were all born in Camposano, Naples, Italy.
The grandchildrens of those ancestors should live in Asbury Park, NJ, but I never met them. If somebody know "Napolitano" or "Napolitani" people in that area, or elsewhere, his help would be appreciated. In exchange, I can help you giving info about Italy and suggests about how to conduct researches in my homeland.
Unfortunately, seems that genealogic researches find more interest in the U.S. rather than in Italy, but a good research can be however done.
Thank you!

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Re: From Italy

Postby Tessa78 » 19 Oct 2011, 15:59

Hello and welcome :-D

Congratulations on your research!

For us to help you with US research we will need some more details of your ancestors who came here.

First names, approx dates of birth?

Any details you provide will help.

As you can see at the site below, there are MANY "Napolitano" AND "Napolitani" listings in the phone book for Asbury Park, NJ...

http://www.whitepages.com/name/Napolita ... ry-park-NJ
http://www.whitepages.com/name/Napolita ... ry-park-NJ


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Re: From Italy

Postby Tessa78 » 19 Oct 2011, 16:05

Here is an interesting record for you to view...

1930 Census for "Ayelo" (Aiello?) Napolitano living in Asbury Park, NJ
Do any of the names look familiar?


Name: Ayelo Napolitano
Event: Census
Event Date: 1930
Event Place: Asbury Park, Monmouth, New Jersey
Gender: Male
Age: 47
Marital Status: Married
Race: White
Birthplace: Italy
Estimated Birth Year: 1883
Immigration Year: 1898

Relationship to Head of Household: Head
Father's Birthplace: Italy
Mother's Birthplace: Italy
Enumeration District Number: 0005
Family Number: 252
Sheet Number and Letter: 13A
Line Number: 23
NARA Publication: T626, roll 1370
Film Number: 2341105
Digital Folder Number: 4660923
Image Number: 00095
Household Gender Age
Ayelo Napolitano M 47
Spouse Filomena Napolitano F 37
Child S?Lipto Napolitano M 22
Child Peter Napolitano M 21
Child Samuel Napolitano M 20
Child Antonin Napolitano M 9
Child Albert Napolitano M 7
Child Alfred Napolitano M 5
Child Arthur Napolitano M 2
Child Amerigo Napolitano M 1

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Re: From Italy

Postby suanj » 19 Oct 2011, 17:49

Hi Tessa!.... and another Napolitano:
1920 United States Federal Census
about Frank Napolitano
Name: Frank Napolitano
Home in 1920: Asbury Park Ward 1, Monmouth, New Jersey
Age: 35
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1885
Birthplace: Italy
Relation to Head of House: Self (Head)
[Head]
Spouse's Name: Marguerite Nabolitono
Father's Birth Place: Italy
Mother's Birth Place: Italy
Marital Status: Married
Race: White
Sex: Male
Home owned: Rent
Year of immigration: 1907
Able to read: Yes
Able to Write: Yes
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Frank Napolitano 35
Marguerite Nabolitono 23
Sarah Nabolitono 11
Matilda Nabolitono 10
Frank Nabolitono 9
John Nabolitono 3
[3 6/12]
Mary Nabolitono 2
[2 6/12]
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Re: From Italy

Postby Max Power » 19 Oct 2011, 18:30

Hello everyone and thank you for the replies.
According to my researches, three brothers of my grand grandfather have immigrated to the United States.
Their names are:
Mario Napolitano, born in Camposano, NA, Italy on May 9, 1881
Gregorio Napolitano, born in Camposano, NA, Italy on August 9, 1879
Francesco Napolitano, born in Camposano, NA, Italy on November 23, 1883
Their descendants should currently live all in Asbury Park, New Jersey, but I don't know them personally. I just know that my father's cousin, deceased in 2008, had been in Asbury Park to them in 1976.
I hope we can find other informations.

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Re: From Italy

Postby Tessa78 » 19 Oct 2011, 18:40

Possible 1905 arrival manifest for FRANCESCO NAPOLITANO, from Camposano.

Age 22, clerk, leaving Camposano
Going to brother Gregorio in Astoria, Long Island, NY

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Line 20

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Re: From Italy

Postby Tessa78 » 19 Oct 2011, 18:48

In Sept. 1918 Francesco Napolitani was living at 1516 SUNFIELD AVE., ASBURY PARK, NJ
Working as a guard at the Gillespie Co. in South Amboy, NJ

World War I Registration Card...
DOB - Nov. 23, 1883
Wife - Marguerite

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In 1942 - living at 1105 SUMMERFIELD AVE., Asbury Park, NJ

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It appears that Francesco passed away in 1963.
First Name: Frank
Middle Name:
Last Name: Napolitani
Name Suffix:
Birth Date: 23 November 1883
Social Security Number: XXX-XX-XXXX
Place of Issuance: New Jersey
Last Residence:
Zip Code of Last Residence:
Death Date: September 1963
Estimated Age at Death: 80

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Re: From Italy

Postby Tessa78 » 19 Oct 2011, 19:02

Possible 1930 US Census with the names of children...

Name: Frank Napolitoni
Event: Census
Event Date: 1930
Event Place: Asbury Park, Monmouth, New Jersey
Gender: Male
Age: 46
Marital Status: Married
Race: White
Birthplace: Italy
Estimated Birth Year: 1884
Immigration Year: 1905
Relationship to Head of Household: Head
Father's Birthplace: Italy
Mother's Birthplace: Italy
Enumeration District Number: 0005
Family Number: 91
Sheet Number and Letter: 4B
Line Number: 95
NARA Publication: T626, roll 1370
Film Number: 2341105
Digital Folder Number: 4660923
Image Number: 00078
Household Gender Age
Frank Napolitoni M 46
Spouse Margaret Napolitoni F 34
Child Sarah Napolitoni F 21
Child Matilda Napolitoni F 20
Child Frankie Napolitoni M 18
Child John Napolitoni M 13
Child Beatrice Napolitoni F 10
Child Vincent Napolitoni M 8
Child Ida Napolitoni F 6
Child Mario Napolitoni F 5
Child Dora Napolitoni F 3
Child Quido Napolitoni M 1

POSSIBLE LIsting for QUIDO's son?
http://www.whitepages.com/name/Quido-J- ... NJ/2vb1ttv
Quido J Napolitani Jr
(732) 276-8460
2105 Grassy Hollow Dr
Toms River, NJ 08755-1071
Age: 50-54
Prior:
Spring Lake, NJ (2010)

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Re: From Italy

Postby Max Power » 20 Oct 2011, 01:39

WOW! This is absolutely great!
You found him in just one hour after my post...I was looking those infos from many years!
It's surely him...thank you Tessa, my father had tears in his eyes seeing those infos. :D
Can you see if you are able to find also his brother Gregorio?
Thank you again!

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Re: From Italy

Postby Tessa78 » 20 Oct 2011, 16:07

Prego! :D

I will look, but I must tell you that I found many death notices while I searched. :(
I tried to focus only on someone still living with whom you could make contact.

I will go back to look for more information about Gregorio's family.

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Re: From Italy

Postby Max Power » 20 Oct 2011, 16:41

Tessa78 wrote:Prego! :D

I will look, but I must tell you that I found many death notices while I searched. :(
I tried to focus only on someone still living with whom you could make contact.

I will go back to look for more information about Gregorio's family.

T.


Ok, Tessa, many thanks to you!
However I would let you see this info I found on Familysearch.com.
I think he is the person I am looking for.
He is the elder brother of Frank, and seems that there is an error in the name.
If you find something, please let me know: the living people you already found are surely his nephews.

Given Name:
Grecorio

Surname:
Napolitano

Last Place of Residence:
Camposano

Date of Arrival:
08 Apr 1903

Age at Arrival:
23y

Ethnicity:
Italy

Port of Departure:
Naples

Port of Arrival:
New York

Gender:
Male

Marital Status:
S

US Citizen:

Ship of Travel:
Balilla

P.S. We can also use Italian, if you like

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Re: From Italy

Postby Tessa78 » 20 Oct 2011, 18:52

Yes, I have found some information about Gregorio Napolitani, and the arrival agrees with the manifest you found...

US Passport Application, dated 13 August 1912
Gregorio is living in Queens, NY at 78 Webster Ave.
He was naturalized as a US Citizen on 6 October 1911 at Long Island City, NY
States that he arrived 7 April 1903 on SS Balilla

Right side of image...
No additional pages (or photo) found :(

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ALSO FOUND...
a possible second manifest for Gregorio in 1906.
Arriving on SS Nord America 10 November 1906
Age 27, leaving Camposano and going to uncle Vincenzo Tortora (a carpenter) at 87 Webster Ave., Long Island City, NY

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AND in 1910, I think this is Gregorio living with Vincenzo Tortora in Queens, NY on the 1910 US Census.
He is working as a confectioner (candymaker) in his own shop...

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I found a possible marriage in 1914, but you would have to request the record (for a fee) from the NYC Vital Records office. Not sure if it would help your search for living relatives...

From NYC Marriage Index:
Napolitani Gregorio 26 May 1914 - Bronx certificate #1480

Can request online at this site...
http://www.nyc.gov/html/records/html/vi ... iage.shtml

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Re: From Italy

Postby Tessa78 » 20 Oct 2011, 19:12

About MARIO NAPOLITANI...

I think this information may be about your relative.
The last address I was able to find for him was on his World War II Registration Card...
He was living at 2734 Kingsbridge Terrace, Bronx, New York
Wife's name was Marie
According to the document he was born in Camposano on 9 May 1881

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This is a possible listing for him on the NYC death index...
Napolitani Mario 22 May 1942 Bronx (age 62)


On the 1930 Census (I have not been able to find a copy of this page :( )
Here is possibly your Mario and his wife Mary, and children.
From Familysearch.org

Name: Mario Napolitani
Event: Census
Event Date: 1930
Event Place: Bronx (Districts 501-750), Bronx, New York
Gender: Male Age: 49
Marital Status: Married
Race: White
Birthplace: Italy
Estimated Birth Year: 1881
Immigration Year: 1901
Relationship to Head of Household: Head
Father's Birthplace: Italy
Mother's Birthplace: Italy
Enumeration District Number: 0533
Family Number: 243
Sheet Number and Letter: 10B
Line Number: 55
NARA Publication: T626, roll 1483
Film Number: 2341218
Digital Folder Number: 4661153
Image Number: 00925
Household Gender Age
Mario Napolitani M 49
Spouse Mary Napolitani F 37
Child Frank Napolitani M 21
Child Alfred Napolitani M 20
Child Gregory Napolitani M 16
Child Albert Napolitani M 14
Child Lilly Napolitani F 9



Found possible death dates of August 1985 for Frank; and 1986 for Albert.

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Re: From Italy

Postby Max Power » 21 Oct 2011, 01:27

Hi Tessa,
I think it's definitively him...I'll try to search whitepages and facebook for contacts with descendants. THANK YOU! :wink:

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Re: From Italy

Postby Tessa78 » 21 Oct 2011, 02:21

Good luck! :-)
Keep us posted...

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