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Philip Bontempo

Postby EliseLaRocca » 05 Feb 2012, 01:24

i am looking for information on another family member and thought i would post it here so that if anyone knows anything or runs across something they can let me know....

Philip Bontempo (sometimes spelled Bountempo)
Birth 1850 in Gibellina, Trapani, Sicilia, Italy
Death between 1910-1920 in Probably New Orleans


1896
Arrival----can not find ship record for this though (info taken from 1910 cencus as that is all i can find on him)

1910 census
Age: 60
Residence
Kenner, Jefferson, Louisiana


Death unknown


family members are
wife --Corrine "Cora" Caronia
1858 – 1924
children are as follows------
Frances Bontempo
1876 – 1964
Carmela "Camille" Buon tempo
1877 – 1952
Margaret Bontempo
1880 – 1928
Lena Bontempo
1887 – 1960
Catherine Bontempo
1889 – 1957
Marie Bontempo-----have no death records for her as well as her father
1894 –
Lillian Bontempo
1896 – 1969


some family died in beaumont texas and are buried at magnolia and the others died in new orleans or kenner and are at Matriea cemetery. both of those have no record of him, thought i could search there and at least get a date but they have no record.

thanks for any help you might can be.

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Re: Philip Bontempo

Postby ibeirish » 06 Feb 2012, 00:22

Hi there!!

I found an old U.S. City Directory (Beaumont, Texas, City Directory, 1916 ) on Ancestry.com:

-Bontempo, Corrine (wid. Philip), res 2213 Forrest
-........Lillian Miss, h 2213 Forrest
-........Marie Miss, h 2213 Forrest

From this directory in 1916, this tells me that Philip had to have died in or before 1916 and that two of the children (Lillian and Marie) lived at home with Corrine.

Beaumont, Texas, City Directory, 1914:
-Bontempo, Corinne (wid. Philip), r 2213 Forrest
-........Lillian Miss, mlnr, bds 2213 Forrest
-........Marie Miss, bds 2213 Forrest

From this directory, we're now able to push back Philip's death year to in or before 1914. Also for Lillian and Marie, they have their occupation and still living at home.

Beaumont, Texas, City Directory, 1912:
-Bontempo, Corinne (wid. Philip), r. ws Forrest, 1st r. n of Caldwell ave
-........ Katie Miss, h. Mrs. Corinne Bontempo (this would be Catherine)
-........ Lillian Miss, h. Mrs. Corinne Bontempo
-........ Marie Miss, h. Mrs. Corinne Bontempo

Also here is the 1920 census from FamilySearch.org:
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/MHTZ-SGS

As well as a death certificate for Lillian:
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/JDKC-KHC
Name: Lillian Goodweather Finnigan
Death Date: 28 Apr 1969
Death Place: Beaumont, Jefferson, Texas
Gender: Female
Race: W
Death Age: 72 years
Estimated Birth Date:
Birth Date: 01 May 1896
Birthplace: Italy
Marital Status: Married
Spouse's Name:
Father's Name: Philip Bontempo
Father's Birthplace:
Mother's Name: Corrine Caronia
Mother's Birthplace:
Occupation:
Place of Residence: Beaumont, Jefferson, Texas
Cemetery: Magnolia
Burial Place: Beaumont, Texas
Burial Date: 30 Apr 1969
Additional Relatives: X
Film Number: 2137441
Digital Film Number: 4029607
Image Number: 431
Reference Number: cn 27319

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Re: Philip Bontempo

Postby ibeirish » 06 Feb 2012, 00:35

I hope that this helps for now, if I see anything I'll let you know. In the meantime, I would map out their house in Texas (2213 Forrest) and in Louisiana (I believe it says William street) and see where the closest Churches/cemeteries are. From there, I would call them up and ask them if they have any record there, chances are they may have baptismal records for the kids (if any of them were baptized in the states). I had to do that for my tree and the Churches that I've contacted were so kind and willing to help me out, as well as give me a little bit of history background for a particular event that I was questioning about. Good Luck on your journey!!

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Re: Philip Bontempo

Postby EliseLaRocca » 06 Feb 2012, 01:03

thank you so much you have just helped alot i can now narrow my search from 1910-1912 while i try to find him. i did know that those sisters came with their mother, they came to live next door to my great grandmother and my father still owns the homes that both my great grandmother and my great great grandmother lived in on forrest st here in beaumont. i beleave they where baptismal records would be in italy though as they where all older when they moved to america with their parents and if not in italy they will be in the new orleans area around kenner. now that i have a 4 year instead of ten year gap this should help me alot thank you ( on the death record you found the name as listed a goodweather which in italian means bontempo which is her maiden name =) ) ty

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Re: Philip Bontempo

Postby ibeirish » 06 Feb 2012, 18:20

Oh you're welcome. I was so glad that I could help you narrow things down for you. Also too, definitely keep track of how people spell the names, because if one document has the name spelt differently than it should be spelt, chances are that other documents similar to that are possibly spelt the same way. This happened to me when I was searching for a marriage record and when I called up the church they were able to confirm it.

I don't know if you have seen this but here's some cool things for you:http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GSln=bontempo&GSfn=corrine&GSbyrel=all&GSdyrel=all&GScntry=4&GSob=n&GRid=81820481&df=all&

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Re: Philip Bontempo

Postby EliseLaRocca » 06 Feb 2012, 18:39

yes i have seen that =) i am the elise that added that information onto that site. as i build my tree i try to put what i find on there as well as another site so that people that come after me have a easier time then i did finding things. =) i am taking the information you found and having someone look through those years at the two cemeterys his family is at in hopes of finding him there and then in turn being able to get good dates from his head stone

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Re: Philip Bontempo

Postby pink67 » 07 Feb 2012, 09:24

Elise,
just for references and in the case that you don't have it, a possible 1900 census:

from Familysearch.org:

United States Census, 1900

name: Phillip Bontemo
residence: Ward 5, St. John the Baptist, Louisiana
birth date: 1850
birthplace: Italy
relationship to head of household: Self
spouse: Cologia Bontemo (possibly Calogera -first name)
spouse's titles & terms:
spouse's birthplace: Italy
father:
father's titles & terms:
father's birthplace: Italy
mother:
mother's titles & terms:
mother's birthplace: Italy
race or color (expanded): White
head-of-household name: Phillip Bontemo
gender: Male
marital status: Married
years married: 7
estimated marriage year: 1893
mother how many children:
number living children:
immigration year: 1894
enumeration district: 0064
page: 19
sheet letter: B
family number: 385
reference number: 82
film number: 1240580
image number: 00675
Household Gender Age
Phillip Bontemo M head, born in Italy, married since 7 years, immigr. year 1894
spouse Cologia Bontemo F wife, born in Italy, married since 7 years, mother of 4 children, all livings,
Antonina Acarde F step-daughter, born in Italy on may 1886
Carea Acarde M step-son, born in Italy on feb 1881
Mary Acarde F step-daughter, born in Italy on may 1893

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https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/T ... cc=1325221

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Re: Philip Bontempo

Postby pink67 » 07 Feb 2012, 09:50

EliseLaRocca wrote:family members are
wife --Corrine "Cora" Caronia
1858 – 1924
children are as follows------
Frances Bontempo
1876 – 1964
Carmela "Camille" Buon tempo
1877 – 1952
Margaret Bontempo
1880 – 1928

Lena Bontempo
1887 – 1960
Catherine Bontempo
1889 – 1957
Marie Bontempo-----have no death records for her as well as her father
1894 –
Lillian Bontempo
1896 – 1969


What about this 1894 arrival for a Filippo Bontempo last residence in Italy Poggioreale (Trapani province - Sicily region) age 44, born approx. on 1850 travelling with Margherita Bontempo age 15 (born on approx.1879)?

from Ancestry.com:

New Orleans Passenger Lists, 1820-1945

Name: Tilippo Bontempo
Arrival Date: 24 Oct 1894
Age: 44
Gender: Male
Port of departure: Palermo, Italy
Ship Name: San Giorgio
Port of arrival: New Orleans, Louisiana
National Archives' Series Number: M259_80

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http://postimage.org/image/yi8lenczb/

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Re: Philip Bontempo

Postby pink67 » 07 Feb 2012, 15:38

This is (I believe) the 1897 arrival manifest for Calogera Caronia (Filippo Bontempo's wife, possibly second wife):

13 may 1897

Caronio (mispelled) Calogera, female age 44, travelling with daughters Antonina age 10, Caterina age 6, Maria age 3, and Elizabeth age 1. Final destination New Orleans. Please note that they were travelling with Bontempo Francesca age 22 female

image from Ellisisland.org:

http://www.ellisisland.org/EIFile/popup ... &line=0730

Is it possible that Calogera was a second wife for Filippo?

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Re: Philip Bontempo

Postby EliseLaRocca » 07 Feb 2012, 16:56

pink67 wrote:Elise,
just for references and in the case that you don't have it, a possible 1900 census:

from Familysearch.org:

United States Census, 1900

name: Phillip Bontemo
residence: Ward 5, St. John the Baptist, Louisiana
birth date: 1850
birthplace: Italy
relationship to head of household: Self
spouse: Cologia Bontemo (possibly Calogera -first name)
spouse's titles & terms:
spouse's birthplace: Italy
father:
father's titles & terms:
father's birthplace: Italy
mother:
mother's titles & terms:
mother's birthplace: Italy
race or color (expanded): White
head-of-household name: Phillip Bontemo
gender: Male
marital status: Married
years married: 7
estimated marriage year: 1893
mother how many children:
number living children:
immigration year: 1894
enumeration district: 0064
page: 19
sheet letter: B
family number: 385
reference number: 82
film number: 1240580
image number: 00675
Household Gender Age
Phillip Bontemo M head, born in Italy, married since 7 years, immigr. year 1894
spouse Cologia Bontemo F wife, born in Italy, married since 7 years, mother of 4 children, all livings,
Antonina Acarde F step-daughter, born in Italy on may 1886
Carea Acarde M step-son, born in Italy on feb 1881
Mary Acarde F step-daughter, born in Italy on may 1893

image:
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/T ... cc=1325221

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the name listed for wife made me take more then one look at this, on my ggf naturalization he wrote in his childrens names and then next to each name was their name in italian. he named one of his daughters after his mother in law Corrine, and next to her name was this spelling Calogera or Colergo. so that makes me think this could be them and i do not yet have a 1900 census on them . daughter Frances was married in 1898 so she wouldnt be on their census,Camille was married in 1899 so she wouldnt be in their census, but that leaves

Margaret birth 20 aug 1880
Lena birth 15 june 1887
Catherine birth 4 sept 1889
Marie birth 1894
Lillian birth 1896

and the census above only list 3 and although dates are around the same year names dont fit at all and where would the other 2 daughters be also the immigration year is not one i have seen before. i dont not know theirs for sure but everything i have found so far as them coming after the birth of lillian so on or after 1896. but this is for sure something to keep a eye on, although right now i am not sure it relates to my line it looks close enough that after i find more clue it just might. thank you. ( going to look at the other post now, i find it easier to do one at a time so i dont lose track of something :D )

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Re: Philip Bontempo

Postby EliseLaRocca » 07 Feb 2012, 17:04

pink67 wrote:This is (I believe) the 1897 arrival manifest for Calogera Caronia (Filippo Bontempo's wife, possibly second wife):

13 may 1897

Caronio (mispelled) Calogera, female age 44, travelling with daughters Antonina age 10, Caterina age 6, Maria age 3, and Elizabeth age 1. Final destination New Orleans. Please note that they were travelling with Bontempo Francesca age 22 female

image from Ellisisland.org:

http://www.ellisisland.org/EIFile/popup ... &line=0730

Is it possible that Calogera was a second wife for Filippo?

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i have no idea there is no one alive to answer that question or that might have a clue about that. i after reading all three post do see your idea though. didnt want you to think i wasnt going to respond back as the last two as well but that is alot of information to take in and compare, let me look at my notes and what i have found and compare it to what you are thinking might be them. if your above is true then the last 4 children i have listen above would not be philips they would be only corrine and the first 3 would be just philips correct?? is that what you are thinking? ok goinf to sink this in and ill get back to you asap

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Re: Philip Bontempo

Postby EliseLaRocca » 07 Feb 2012, 18:30

Carea Acarde is listed as a male on the census and a female on the ship record and then if it is mine the name changes to cathrine and she starts to carry her step fathers last name. hmmmm this would mean both philip and corinne where both married before and did not have any children together. do the names you have listed as step children could they be the italian version of the english names i have? or anything close to it? i have put a call into catherine's daughter to see if any of this might ring a bell to her. this is making for a good case to be them but i am not understanding why things where changed (names) and why i have never heard anything about this. any ideas on the questions i have asked? ( i am still thinking and comparing notes

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Re: Philip Bontempo

Postby pink67 » 07 Feb 2012, 18:32

daughter Frances was married in 1898 so she wouldnt be on their census,Camille was married in 1899 so she wouldnt be in their census, but that leaves

Margaret birth 20 aug 1880
Lena birth 15 june 1887
Catherine birth 4 sept 1889
Marie birth 1894
Lillian birth 1896


Daughter Margaret was already married too:

1910 United States Federal Census

Name: Joseph Rich
Age in 1910: 37
Birth Year: 1873
Birthplace: Italy
Home in 1910: Kenner, Jefferson, Louisiana
Race: White
Gender: Male
Immigration Year: 1885
Relation to Head of House: Head
[Self (Head)]
Marital Status: Married
Spouse's Name: Margret Rich
Father's Birthplace: Italy
Mother's Birthplace: Italy
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Joseph Rich 37 head, born in Italy, married since 15 years (approx on 1895)
Margret Rich 28, wife, born in Italy, married since 15 years, mother of 9 children among whom only 6 livings, immigr. year 1895
Mary Rich 14 daughter
Peter Rich 9 son
Philip Rich 7 son
Vincent Rich 5 son
Charles Rich 3 son
Cora Rich 11/12 daughter
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link to the census image on the site Ancestry.com:

http://search.ancestry.com/iexec?htx=Vi ... id=9203851

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Re: Philip Bontempo

Postby pink67 » 07 Feb 2012, 18:39

do the names you have listed as step children could they be the italian version of the english names i have? or anything close to it?


Yes, I think so...


Phillip Bontemo M head, born in Italy, married since 7 years, immigr. year 1894
spouse Cologia Bontemo F wife, born in Italy, married since 7 years, mother of 4 children, all livings,
Antonina Acarde F step-daughter, born in Italy on may 1886
Carea Acarde M step-son, born in Italy on feb 1881
Mary Acarde F step-daughter, born in Italy on may 1893



13 may 1897

Caronio (mispelled) Calogera, female age 44, travelling with daughters Antonina age 10, Caterina age 6, Maria age 3, and Elizabeth age 1.


Acarde may have been a mispelling of the children's lastname... Accardo, Accardi is a possible version...

Antonina is OK, Caterina's (wrongly listed as male) english version may have been Carrie, Mary is the same... Elizabeth is not present on the 1900 census , I don't know why but I'm pretty sure that Lillian may have been the english version...

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Re: Philip Bontempo

Postby EliseLaRocca » 07 Feb 2012, 20:11

pink67 wrote:
daughter Frances was married in 1898 so she wouldnt be on their census,Camille was married in 1899 so she wouldnt be in their census, but that leaves

Margaret birth 20 aug 1880
Lena birth 15 june 1887
Catherine birth 4 sept 1889
Marie birth 1894
Lillian birth 1896


Daughter Margaret was already married too:

1910 United States Federal Census

Name: Joseph Rich
Age in 1910: 37
Birth Year: 1873
Birthplace: Italy
Home in 1910: Kenner, Jefferson, Louisiana
Race: White
Gender: Male
Immigration Year: 1885
Relation to Head of House: Head
[Self (Head)]
Marital Status: Married
Spouse's Name: Margret Rich
Father's Birthplace: Italy
Mother's Birthplace: Italy
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Joseph Rich 37 head, born in Italy, married since 15 years (approx on 1895)
Margret Rich 28, wife, born in Italy, married since 15 years, mother of 9 children among whom only 6 livings, immigr. year 1895
Mary Rich 14 daughter
Peter Rich 9 son
Philip Rich 7 son
Vincent Rich 5 son
Charles Rich 3 son
Cora Rich 11/12 daughter
[0]

link to the census image on the site Ancestry.com:

http://search.ancestry.com/iexec?htx=Vi ... id=9203851

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looks like they spelled the last name wrong but other then that all names again and dates again match up i have Rizzuto, and here is a census i have

1920 United States Federal Census about Margaret Rizzuter
Name: Margaret Rizzuter
[Margaret Rizzuto]
[Margaret Rezzutie??]
Birthplace: Italy
Home in 1920: New Orleans Ward 3, Orleans, Louisiana
Race: White
Gender: Female
Immigration Year: 1895
Relation to Head of House: Wife
Marital Status: Married
Spouse's Name: Joseph Rizzuter
Father's Birthplace: Italy
Mother's Birthplace: Italy
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Joseph Rizzuter
Margaret Rizzuter
Mary Rizzuter 21
Peter Rizzuter 19
Philip Rizzuter 17
Vincent Rizzuter 15
Charles Rizzuter 13
Anthony Rizzuter 6
Francis Rizzuter 0/12



although i have a Cora or corinne born abt 1907 that is missing from the census i just added. so it looks as though by the dates and ages of her children Joseph and Margaret must have came to america and had a few kids then she went back to italy and brought her father back judging by the record you found and then the wife daughter and step children where to follow not to long after, this still leaves the one child ( my great grandmother) Camille who would have been philips daughter missing on how she got here, unless you came the first time that her sister Margaret came hmmmm


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