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Help finding records for Pietro Gatto born 1887

Postby tcrawford246 » 14 Feb 2012, 04:27

Pietro Gatto is my great-grandfather and I have hit a wall trying to find records about him in Italy. He was born in 1887 possibly in Cerratina, Pescara, Abruzzo. I can't find any record of his mother or father and my family does not remember him ever mentioning them. Any help would be great.
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Re: Help finding records for Pietro Gatto born 1887

Postby nuccia » 14 Feb 2012, 15:28

tcrawford246 wrote:Pietro Gatto is my great-grandfather and I have hit a wall trying to find records about him in Italy. He was born in 1887 possibly in Cerratina, Pescara, Abruzzo. I can't find any record of his mother or father and my family does not remember him ever mentioning them. Any help would be great.


You didn't mention... did he ever travel to or live in the US? Have you tried writing a letter to the comune and ordering records? What have you done so far to try and locate anything about him?
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Re: Help finding records for Pietro Gatto born 1887

Postby adelfio » 14 Feb 2012, 17:09

Welcome to the website
Like Nuccia says some names like his kids where he lived this way you can maybe get a census record to start from with vital info on him

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Re: Help finding records for Pietro Gatto born 1887

Postby suanj » 14 Feb 2012, 18:13

Hi,

I found this arrival:
New York Passenger Lists, 1820-1957 about Pietro Gatto
Name: Pietro Gatto
Arrival Date: 30 Jul 1905
Birth Year: abt 1887
Age: 18
Gender: Male
Ethnicity/Race­/Nationality: Italian (South) (Italian)
Port of Departure: Napoli
Port of Arrival: New York, New York
Ship Name: Nord America

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the last residnce is spelled Cerrati..
I believe that this same Pietro made another trip ( but I am unsure if really is the same Pietro arrived in 1905; as a well I know not if is your ancestor):

First Name: Pietro
Last Name: Gatto
Ethnicity: Italy, Italian South
Last Place of Residence: Cerito, Italy
Date of Arrival: May 13, 1912
Age at Arrival: 23y Gender: M Marital Status: M
Ship of Travel: Oceania (1909)
Port of Departure: Napoli
Manifest Line Number: 0028

pag 1 http://www.ellisisland.org/EIFile/popup ... &line=0028

pag 2 http://www.ellisisland.org/EIFile/popup ... &line=0028

already in USA from 1905 to 1911, NY, and joining at brother Francesco...
If you can add more infos is better, so we can help better also,
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Re: Help finding records for Pietro Gatto born 1887

Postby Biff83 » 14 Feb 2012, 19:39

Is this your Pietro??

Social Security Death Index
Name: Pete Gatto
SSN: 208-01-xxxx
Last Residence: 15824 Brockway, Jefferson, Pennsylvania, United States of America
Born: 12 Feb 1887
Last Benefit: 15824 Brockway, Jefferson, Pennsylvania, United States of America
Died: Dec 1977
State (Year) SSN issued: Pennsylvania (Before 1951)

WWII Draft Reg Card
U.S. World War II Draft Registration Cards, 1942
Name: Pete Gato
Birth Date: 10 Feb 1887
Birth Place: San Pietro, Italy ?
Residence: Jefferson, Pennsylvania
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Re: Help finding records for Pietro Gatto born 1887

Postby tcrawford246 » 15 Feb 2012, 01:13

Thank you everyone for all your help. Here is some more information that I forgot to mention before: He lived immigrated to the United States and he lived in Brockway, Pennsylvania. Also, his full birthday is Februrary 12, 1887. I'm pretty sure that the first Pietro Gatto that suanj found is him and I don't know if he ever traveled back to Italy or not. Also, I'm not sure if he had any siblings, as I said before my family said that he never really talked about his life in Italy. I did my best trying to find him using ancestry.com and I found him in the census and his WW1 draft card. That is pretty much the only information that I know about him other than what my mom remembers and that doesn't really pertain to tracking him down in historical records. As for ordering records, I have no idea how to do that and if that was not where he was born would they still have records?
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Re: Help finding records for Pietro Gatto born 1887

Postby suanj » 15 Feb 2012, 07:51

also by WWI draft registration card the birth town is San Pietro, Cosenza

World War I Draft Registration Cards, 1917-1918 about Peter Gato
Name: Peter Gato
County: Jefferson
State: Pennsylvania
Birthplace: Italy
Birth Date: 10 Feb 1887
Race: Caucasian (White)
FHL Roll Number: 1893241
DraftBoard: 1

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Re: Help finding records for Pietro Gatto born 1887

Postby suanj » 15 Feb 2012, 17:17

I believe that the birth place is San Pietro in Amantea; on 1905 ship's manifest, the last residence is wrote "Cerrati" really is Terrati, hamlet of Lago town, no far from San Pietro in Amantea..

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just a my suggestion..
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Re: Help finding records for Pietro Gatto born 1887

Postby tcrawford246 » 15 Feb 2012, 20:04

Thank you suanj for finding more information. I have some new information that may or may not help. According to the ship manifest from the Ellis Island website, Pietro was meeting his cousin Gaetano Caruso. Listed above Pietro on the manifest are several other people with the last name Caruso and they were all coming from the same place. I'm not sure if this will help when searching for Pietro. I don't know if the Caruso's are on related on his mother or father's side. My grandmother (Pietro's daughter) always thought that Pietro's mother was a prostitute. Also, no one know's his mother's name so that complicates things more.
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Re: Help finding records for Pietro Gatto born 1887

Postby suanj » 15 Feb 2012, 22:18

Thank you!
Yes, in the ship's manifest of 1905, the Carusos and others that joining at Gaetano Caruso in PA, they coming from Amantea; Amantea is a town near San Pietro in Amantea; also the name in line 13 coming from San Pietro; only Pietro last residence is Cerrati(Terrati) but by WWI and WWII the birthplace is San Pietro ( San Pietro in Amantea), so this is the right birthplace and Terrati was the last residence in 1905....
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Re: Help finding records for Pietro Gatto born 1887

Postby tcrawford246 » 29 Mar 2012, 03:12

I have searched for Gaetano Caruso in Brockwayville (the name of the town before it was shortened to Brockway) Pennsylvania and I can't find him or his family at all. This was the cousin that was picking up my great grandfather from Ellis Island. Can anybody please help me find records of Gaetano Caruso? He might be the key to finding out more about my great grandfather. Also, maybe this information with help too: I was looking through ship manifests on ellisisland.org and there were two men Saverio Bruno and Francesco Bruno who were coming from Amantea were also coming to Brockwayville and being picked up by their brother-in-law Gaetano Caruso. Thank You.
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Re: Help finding records for Pietro Gatto born 1887

Postby suanj » 29 Mar 2012, 11:08

I found this genealogic tree by ancestry.com:
Gaetano 'Thomas' Caruso
BIRTH: Sep 1873 - Cosenza, Italy
MARRIAGE: 1897 - Italy
DEATH: 10 Oct 1960 - Brockway, Jefferson, PA (Pennsylvania), USA
PARENTS: Pietro Caruso, Maria Guzzo
SPOUSE: Giovanna 'Jennie' Bagotti


by Cosenza archive, military card:

Codice SIAS IT-ASCS-F680258
Ufficio Leva della Provincia di Cosenza, Liste di Leva della classe 1873.Registro numero 120,
atto numero 104 di pagina 75 sezione b
Gaetano Caruso, iscritto il --/--/----
nato il 07/12/1873 a AMANTEA ( born on 7th Dec 1873)
da ( parents)Pietro Caruso e da Maria Guzzo
declared " renitente" who fails to report for military service... as you can see sometimes the birthdate in USA it is no the rignt birthdate by IT documents
Gaetano was born in Amantea, and we can be sure that your Pietro Gatto coming from TERRATI

and by 1900 census:
1900 United States Federal Census about Gaitaino Caruso
Name: Gaitaino Caruso
[Gaitaina Caruss]
Age: 26
Birth Date: Sep 1873
Birthplace: Italy
Home in 1900: Brockway, Jefferson, Pennsylvania
Race: White
Gender: Male
Immigration Year: 1888
Relation to Head of House: Head
Marital Status: Married
Spouse's Name: Jennie Caruso
Marriage Year: 1897
Years Married: 3
Father's Birthplace: Italy
Mother's Birthplace: Italy
Occupation: View on Image
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Household Members:
Name Age
Gaitaino Caruso 26
Jennie Caruso 21
Mary Caruso 1
Fullimen Caruso 7/12
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imm. 1888 alien, coal miner; in 1910- 1920- 1930 censuses Gaetano lived in Snyder, Jefferson, Pennsylvania

World War I Draft Registration Cards, 1917-1918 about Gaentano Caruso
Name: Gaentano Caruso
County: Jefferson
State: Pennsylvania
Birth Date: 8 Aug 1873
Race: White
FHL Roll Number: 1893241
DraftBoard: 1
wrong image on ancestry.com so I cannot read abt birthplace

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Re: Help finding records for Pietro Gatto born 1887

Postby suanj » 29 Mar 2012, 11:27

I found this record by Cosenza Archive:

Codice SIAS IT-ASCS-F680258
Ufficio Leva della Provincia di Cosenza, Liste di Leva della classe 1887.Registro numero 228,
atto numero 58 di pagina 242 sezione b
Pietro Gatto, iscritto il 15/04/1908
nato il 11/02/1887
da Pasquale Gatto e da Caterina Feradi

no more infos, no birthplace just the birthdate 11 Feb 1887, parents: Pasquale Gatto and Caterina Feradi

I found a birth record abt a Pasquale Gatto born in Terrati

Codice SIAS IT-ASCS-F680844
Stato Civile, Comune di TERRATI. Registro numero 49, atto numero 22 di pagina -
Pasquale Gatto nato/a il 21/04/1859

da Bruno Gatto, bracciale, 33 anni e da Teresa Majone, contadina, 37 anni

born in Terrati on 21 apr 1859 son of Gaetano Gatto 33 old and Teresa Majone 37 old

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Re: Help finding records for Pietro Gatto born 1887

Postby tcrawford246 » 29 Mar 2012, 15:07

suanj,

Thank you! This information is amazing! Is there any way to find out more about Pasquale Gatto or his wife? I would like to find out how the Carusos fit in to my family tree. Thank you again.
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Re: Help finding records for Pietro Gatto born 1887

Postby suanj » 29 Mar 2012, 16:28

The best way for to find more,
is to search in TERRATI civil records by LDS microfilms:
Registri dello stato civile di Terrati (Cosenza), 1810-1910 Terrati (Cosenza). Ufficio dello stato civile
Births, marriages, banns, deaths, marriage documents, citizenship records.
https://www.familysearch.org/eng/librar ... i+Terrati+% &columns=*,0,0
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