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Finding Philomena's Maiden Name

Postby tcrawford246 » 19 Feb 2012, 03:15

I have been working on my family tree and it seems that the Italian side of my family are all mysteries. I have posted on here before about my great-grandfather, but now I am posting about my great great-grandmother Philomena Niccolette. I have tried to find her maiden name using ancestry.com and familysearch.org, but I have not succeeded. This is the information that I have for Philomena: she was born in about 1876, her last residence in Italy was Laurino, she arrived in the United States in 1901, she lived in Brookville, Pennsylvania in 1910, and she died May 21, 1956 in Cook County Illinois. She was married to Angelo Gregorio, but I do not know their wedding date. I would really like to know her maiden name to help me grow my family tree and thank you to everyone that helps me accomplish that.

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Re: Finding Philomena's Maiden Name

Postby Tessa78 » 19 Feb 2012, 11:20

I took a look at the 1910 Census you referenced above and noticed several facts...

Philomena and Angelo were married 14 years - so date of marriage was about 1896 - this would put marriage in Italy...
First daughter Mary was born in Italy and immigrated with her mother in 1901.
Mary was born about 1899...

I'll see if I can find the manifest for Mary and Philomena. Though Philomena would have traveled under her maiden name, Mary (Maria?) should have been listed under GREGORIO :-)

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Re: Finding Philomena's Maiden Name

Postby Tessa78 » 19 Feb 2012, 11:28

You have this POSSIBLE Illinois Death Index listing for ANGELO???

Name: Angelo Gregoria
Titles and Terms (original):
Death Date: 03 Oct 1926
Death Place: Chicago, Cook, Illinois
Gender: Male
Marital Status:
Race or Color:
Age: 51
Estimated Birth Year: 1875
Birth Date: 04 Jul 1875
Birthplace: Lourino, Italy
Father: Francesca Gregorio (probably Francesco)
Father's Titles and Terms (original):
Father's Birth Place: Lourino, Italy
Mother: Anusizivta Sarnicola (Annunziata?)
Mother's Titles and Terms (original):
Mother's Birth Place: Lourino, Italy
Occupation: Labor
Residence:
Street Address:
Spouse: Filomena Gregoria
Spouse's Titles and Terms (original):
Spouse's Birthplace:
Burial Date: 06 Oct 1926
Burial Place:
Cemetery: Mt. Carmel
Informant:
Additional Relatives:
Digital Folder Number: 4204790
Image Number: 2567
Film Number: 1877895
Volume/Page/Certificate Number: rn 27294

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Re: Finding Philomena's Maiden Name

Postby suanj » 19 Feb 2012, 11:38

the Filomena maiden name was Nicoletti;
I believe that I found the arrival:
Filomena Nicoletti coming from Laurino, with little daughter Annunziata( maybe becoming Maruy in USA) joining at husband Angelo Gregorio
First Name: Filomena
Last Name: Nicoletti
Ethnicity: Italy, Italian
Last Place of Residence: Lamino (Laurino)
Date of Arrival: Nov 17, 1901
Age at Arrival: 27y Gender: F Marital Status: M
Ship of Travel: Scotia
Port of Departure: Naples
Manifest Line Number: 0019


http://www.ellisisland.org/EIFile/popup ... &line=0019
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Re: Finding Philomena's Maiden Name

Postby Tessa78 » 19 Feb 2012, 11:49

This looks like the death index for a child of Angelo and Filomena...

Date is 1919 - child is Pasqualina, who died at birth...
Mother's name is listed as FILOMENA NICOLETTA.
I think that Nicoletta is her maiden name :-)
This surname is found in Campania Region...

Name: Pasqualina Gregorio
Titles and Terms (original):
Death Date: 15 Nov 1919
Death Place: Chicago, Cook, Illinois
Gender: Female
Marital Status:
Race or Color:
Age:
Estimated Birth Year:
Birth Date: 15 Nov 1919
Birthplace: Chicago, Cook, Illinois
Father: Angelo Gregorio
Father's Titles and Terms (original):
Father's Birth Place: Italy
Mother: Felomena Nicoletta
Mother's Titles and Terms (original):
Mother's Birth Place: Italy
Occupation:
Residence:
Street Address:
Spouse:
Spouse's Titles and Terms (original):
Spouse's Birthplace:
Burial Date:
Burial Place:
Cemetery:
Informant:
Additional Relatives:
Digital Folder Number: 4155960
Image Number: 2074
Film Number: 1983622
Volume/Page/Certificate Number: 2035

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Re: Finding Philomena's Maiden Name

Postby Tessa78 » 19 Feb 2012, 11:50

Hi suanj! :D Great find!

T.

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Re: Finding Philomena's Maiden Name

Postby suanj » 19 Feb 2012, 17:56

Dear Tessa, your find is wonderful also!!
In Laurino the NICOLETTI surname is very popular, as a well GREGORIO
http://campania.indettaglio.it/ita/moto ... ne=Laurino

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Re: Finding Philomena's Maiden Name

Postby Tessa78 » 19 Feb 2012, 18:15

suanj wrote:Dear Tessa, your find is wonderful also!!
In Laurino the NICOLETTI surname is very popular, as a well GREGORIO
http://campania.indettaglio.it/ita/moto ... ne=Laurino

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Yes, I agree! The spelling changes much in the USA :(
but the correct spelling is NICOLETTI :D

Hugs to you, too!
T.

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Re: Finding Philomena's Maiden Name

Postby tcrawford246 » 20 Feb 2012, 00:24

Thank you Tessa and suanj for all your help. I am having another problem now concerning Philomena. I have been looking on familysearch.org for her birth record and so far I have not found it. I have tried many different spellings of her name and I only get the same search results. How can I locate her birth record? Also, I have tried to find her marriage record and it too has proved to be elusive. I put in her husband's name, but no records came up in the search. Can you help me to please find these records, I am not having very good luck.

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Re: Finding Philomena's Maiden Name

Postby Tessa78 » 20 Feb 2012, 01:55

Now all records are available online :-(

You would be more successful to go to your nearest LDS Family History Center where you can rent and view the civil registrations (births, marriages, deaths) they have microfilmed of the Comune of Laurino. The records cover the years 1866-1929
https://familysearch.org/search/catalog ... %2F1346102
To find your nearest center enter your zip code on this site...
http://familysearch.org/eng/

You may also wish to write to the comune directly to request her birth and marriage record if Laurino is her EXACT place of birth...

Address:
Ufficio dello Stato Civile
Piazza A. Magliani
84057 Laurino (SA)
ITALY


Help with letters of request in Italian...
http://www.angelfire.com/ok3/pearlsofwi ... talrecords
http://www.circolocalabrese.org/resourc ... civile.asp

T.

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Re: Finding Philomena's Maiden Name

Postby tcrawford246 » 20 Feb 2012, 14:22

Thank you this is very helpful.

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Re: Finding Philomena's Maiden Name

Postby Tessa78 » 20 Feb 2012, 19:57

Now all records are available online :-(


I meant to write NOT all records...

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