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The Toce family of Corleto Perticara, Potenza, Basilicata

Postby JTsr » 27 Feb 2012, 23:19

I am seeking information on the lineage of the Toce family of Corleto Perticara, Potenza, Basilicata. I am a grandson of Gerardo Toce (born September 19, 1874 in C.P.) and Donata [maiden name?]. They emigrated to the United States in 1897. I am curious to know when they married, and most importatnly who their ancestors were. According to some family notes, my grandfather was the son of Antonio (1847-78) and Maria [maiden name?] (uncertain of birth and death dates). I don't know anything about my grandmother or her family, other than that her mother is rumoured to have also been a Toce. Were my grandparents perhaps my grandparents were cousins?

Any information would be greatly appreciated.

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Re: The Toce family of Corleto Perticara, Potenza, Basilicat

Postby Tessa78 » 28 Feb 2012, 06:16

Here is the marriage record of Gerardo Toce and Donata Maria Icrardi in Corleto Perticara, Potenza, in 1895...

On the 27 October 1895, at 10:50 Am at the town hall appeared before the official,
Gerardo Toce, single, 22, ox driver, born in Corleto Perticara, residing in this comune, son of deceased Antonio and of deceased Maria Caterina Maddaluno, both residing in this comune when living;
AND
Donata Maria Icrardi, single, 20, peasant farmer, born and residing in Corleto Perticara, daughter of Domenico Egidio and of Carmina Toce, both of CP.

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Re: The Toce family of Corleto Perticara, Potenza, Basilicat

Postby liviomoreno » 28 Feb 2012, 07:39

I believe the bride's surname is Ierardi (3 entries in the Italian White Pages for Corleto Perticara). The surname Icrardi does not exist.

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Re: The Toce family of Corleto Perticara, Potenza, Basilicat

Postby JTsr » 28 Feb 2012, 08:12

I have never heard this surname mentioned before. Apparently, the rumor of Donata's mother being a Toce was correct.

Thank you for this information.

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Re: The Toce family of Corleto Perticara, Potenza, Basilicat

Postby liviomoreno » 28 Feb 2012, 08:37

Toce has 19 entries in the white pages for Corleto Perticara. It is possible that your ancestors where distant cousins

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Re: The Toce family of Corleto Perticara, Potenza, Basilicat

Postby JTsr » 29 Feb 2012, 18:25

Is there any information about the parents of Antonio, Maria, Domenico, or Carmina?

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Re: The Toce family of Corleto Perticara, Potenza, Basilicat

Postby JTsr » 29 Feb 2012, 18:26

liviomoreno wrote:I believe the bride's surname is Ierardi (3 entries in the Italian White Pages for Corleto Perticara). The surname Icrardi does not exist.


The writing on the marriage certificate looks more like Jerardi or Gerardi to me. Is this a possibility?

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Re: The Toce family of Corleto Perticara, Potenza, Basilicat

Postby liviomoreno » 29 Feb 2012, 19:03

My first thought was Gerardi but the "G" in the name Gerardo Toce and in the name Giovanni (4th line from above) are completely different.
And the name Jerardi does not exists (today) in the Italian White Pages for Corleto Perticara. See http://www.paginebianche.it/ricerca?l=e ... +Perticara
In any case it is possible that in the past the name was Jerardi. The capital I and J are very similar in handwriting: http://script.byu.edu/italian1/en/alphabet.aspx#I

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Re: The Toce family of Corleto Perticara, Potenza, Basilicat

Postby Tessa78 » 01 Mar 2012, 00:33

Found the bride listed in the 1875 birth index under the letter "I"
Surname is definitely IERARDI as Livio first stated :-)

Here is her birth record -- #179
Born 16 November 1875
Declared by Teresa Gerardi, 59, midwife
Father Domenico Egidio Ierardi, ox driver
Mother Carmela Toce, farmer
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Re: The Toce family of Corleto Perticara, Potenza, Basilicat

Postby JTsr » 01 Mar 2012, 06:11

Tessa78 wrote:Found the bride listed in the 1875 birth index under the letter "I"
Surname is definitely IERARDI as Livio first stated :-)

Here is her birth record -- #179
Born 16 November 1875
Declared by Teresa Gerardi, 59, midwife
Father Domenico Egidio Ierardi, ox driver
Mother Carmela Toce, farmer
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Thank you very much! This will greatly help my study of genealogy. I don't know what sources Livio and Tessa use, but is it possible to find any information about her parents, such as their birth years and their parents.

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Re: The Toce family of Corleto Perticara, Potenza, Basilicat

Postby Tessa78 » 01 Mar 2012, 15:00

JTsr wrote:
Tessa78 wrote:Found the bride listed in the 1875 birth index under the letter "I"
Surname is definitely IERARDI as Livio first stated :-)

Here is her birth record -- #179
Born 16 November 1875
Declared by Teresa Gerardi, 59, midwife
Father Domenico Egidio Ierardi, ox driver
Mother Carmela Toce, farmer
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Thank you very much! This will greatly help my study of genealogy. I don't know what sources Livio and Tessa use, but is it possible to find any information about her parents, such as their birth years and their parents.

Thanks again!

T.


Here is the marriage of Gerardo Toce's parents :-D [from Ancestry.com]

Marriage record #26
Antonio Toce
And
Maria Caterina Maddaluno


Dated 13 July 1873 at 2 PM at the town hall in Coleto-Perticara
Appearing personally before the official…
Antonio Toce, 26, peasant farmer, born and residing for more than a year in this comune, son of deceased Gerardo and of the living Vita Diamante, peasant farmer;
AND
Maria Caterina Maddaluno, 32, peasant farmer, …of this comune…, daughter of living Salvatore, peasant farmer and of deceased Lucia Lamberta(sp?)

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Re: The Toce family of Corleto Perticara, Potenza, Basilicat

Postby liviomoreno » 01 Mar 2012, 15:35

Tessa78 wrote:Here is the marriage of Gerardo Toce's parents :-D [from Ancestry.com]

Marriage record #26
Antonio Toce
And
Maria Caterina Maddaluno


Dated 13 July 1873 at 2 PM at the town hall in Coleto-Perticara
Appearing personally before the official…
Antonio Toce, 26, peasant farmer, born and residing for more than a year in this comune, son of deceased Gerardo and of the living Vita Diamante, peasant farmer;
AND
Maria Caterina Maddaluno, 32, peasant farmer, …of this comune…, daughter of living Salvatore, peasant farmer and of deceased Lucia Lamberta, and widow of Francesco Mario Lapenta who died on 25 Jul 1869.

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Re: The Toce family of Corleto Perticara, Potenza, Basilicat

Postby liviomoreno » 01 Mar 2012, 15:53

From the request for banns related to the marriage of Antonio Toce and Maria Catterina Maddaluno
we learn that Antonio was born 13 Nov 1847 and Maria Caterina Maddaluno was born 29 Dec 1841

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Re: The Toce family of Corleto Perticara, Potenza, Basilicat

Postby Tessa78 » 01 Mar 2012, 16:05

Correct death record for Domenico Egidio Ierardi, husband of Carmina Toce :-)

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Dated 18 July 1907
Age 78, peasant farmer,
son of deceased PROSPERO, farmer
and deceased CATERINA VICINO(?), farmer
husband of Carmina Toce


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Re: The Toce family of Corleto Perticara, Potenza, Basilicat

Postby Tessa78 » 01 Mar 2012, 16:40

Death of Carmina Toce the following year...

Death record of Carmina Toce

Record #80
Dated 3 November 1908 (death same day)
Carmina Toce, age 76, farmer
Daughter of deceased Giuseppe, farmer
And of deceased Maria Lombardi, farmer
Widow of Domenico Egidio Ierardi


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