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Stuck for quite some time (D'Amore surname)

Postby frankdamore » 17 Apr 2012, 06:18

Hello.

I have a subscription to Ancestry.com, but I cannot find any further info on my great-grandfathers. I have made some excellent progress everywhere else, but was looking for some pointers please.

I am trying to search if either great-grandfather had siblings, or parent names. I'm not sure what my next steps would be since I cannot seem to find anything online. Any documents, sources, tips, etc would be MUCH appreciated.

Thank you.

Relatives in question:

Antonio (Anthony) D'Amore (5/23/1882 - 6/299/1925)
Born in Brusciano, Italy. Passed away in Buffalo, NY
Married to Anges E Petrino
4 children: (Frank - my grandfather), Maria, Frances, Slyvia
I have 1910 Census, WW1 Record, photos of the tombstone

Joseph (possible Guiseppe) DeLuca (10/11/1888 - 9/23/1976)
Born in Sicily. Passed away in Buffalo, NY
Immigrated in 1906
Married to Anna Mundt
I have WW1 Record, 1920, 1930 census

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Re: Stuck for quite some time (D'Amore surname)

Postby suanj » 17 Apr 2012, 11:48

Hi some De Luca in Buffalo [Peter/Pietro and Andrea (Peter son)]coming from Bagheria,Palermo, Sicily, IT... you found your Giuseppe De Luca arrival?
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Re: Stuck for quite some time (D'Amore surname)

Postby Tessa78 » 17 Apr 2012, 16:22

frankdamore wrote:Hello.

I have a subscription to Ancestry.com, but I cannot find any further info on my great-grandfathers. I have made some excellent progress everywhere else, but was looking for some pointers please.

I am trying to search if either great-grandfather had siblings, or parent names. I'm not sure what my next steps would be since I cannot seem to find anything online. Any documents, sources, tips, etc would be MUCH appreciated.

Thank you.

Relatives in question:

Antonio (Anthony) D'Amore (5/23/1882 - 6/299/1925)
Born in Brusciano, Italy. Passed away in Buffalo, NY
Married to Anges E Petrino
4 children: (Frank - my grandfather), Maria, Frances, Slyvia
I have 1910 Census, WW1 Record, photos of the tombstone

Joseph (possible Guiseppe) DeLuca (10/11/1888 - 9/23/1976)
Born in Sicily. Passed away in Buffalo, NY

Immigrated in 1906
Married to Anna Mundt
I have WW1 Record, 1920, 1930 census

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From the SS Death Index...
Social Security Death Index

Name: Joseph Deluca
SSN: 061-10-xxxx
Last Residence: 14223 Buffalo, Erie, New York, United States of America
Born: 12 Oct 1888
Died: Sep 1976
State (Year) SSN issued: New York (Before 1951)

You can access this information on Ancestry to get the full Social Security #.
You can then request Joseph's (Giuseppe's) Social Security Application (SS-5) which should list the names of his parents and his place of birth...
http://genealogy.about.com/gi/o.htm?zi= ... t/main.jsp

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Re: Stuck for quite some time (D'Amore surname)

Postby frankdamore » 18 Apr 2012, 04:30

Hello,

Sunaj - The 1920 census shows Joseph immigrating in 1906. The one ship manifest I have is from 1907. I am thinking that the manifest I have is someone different.

Tessa - Great recommendation. I just ordered the computer extract. Is that something like a scanned copy? Hopefully that will provide me with the accurate birth location and parent names.

Any other tips are much appreciated.

For my next step, do I have to reach out to the birthplace of my great-grandparents? I was reading that I could send a request via writing (with $) to say Brusciano for D'Amore? Any other way to find Italian records?

Thanks again,
Frank
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Re: Stuck for quite some time (D'Amore surname)

Postby Tessa78 » 18 Apr 2012, 15:39

Hello Frank,

Some records are available through your nearest LDS Family History Center.
They have the microfilmed records of Brusciano (births, marriages, deaths) from 1809-1865 available to rent and view.
https://familysearch.org/search/catalog ... em%2F13821

For nearest center - enter zip at bottom of page
http://www.familysearch.org/eng/

For other records you may wish to write to the comune of Brusciano

ADDRESS:
Ufficio dello Stato Civile
Via Cucca, 79
80031 Brusciano (NA)
ITALY


Help with letters of request in Italian...
http://www.angelfire.com/ok3/pearlsofwi ... talrecords
http://www.circolocalabrese.org/resourc ... civile.asp

I just ordered the computer extract. Is that something like a scanned copy? Hopefully that will provide me with the accurate birth location and parent names.

Yes, it is a photocopy. The names of parents and place of birth should be there, though sometimes terribly misspelled. If you have trouble with it, post it here at the forum and our volunteers will take a crack at it for you. :-)

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Re: Stuck for quite some time (D'Amore surname)

Postby suanj » 19 Apr 2012, 11:56

frankdamore wrote:Hello,

Sunaj - The 1920 census shows Joseph immigrating in 1906. The one ship manifest I have is from 1907. I am thinking that the manifest I have is someone different.

Tessa - Great recommendation. I just ordered the computer extract. Is that something like a scanned copy? Hopefully that will provide me with the accurate birth location and parent names.

Any other tips are much appreciated.

For my next step, do I have to reach out to the birthplace of my great-grandparents? I was reading that I could send a request via writing (with $) to say Brusciano for D'Amore? Any other way to find Italian records?

Thanks again,
Frank

Hi Frank,
by this census:
1910 United States Federal Census about Joseph Deluco
Name: Joseph Deluco
[Joseph Delulo]
Age in 1910: 21
[22]
Birth Year: abt 1888
[1888]
Birthplace: Italy
Home in 1910: Buffalo Ward 25, Erie, New York
Race: White
Gender: Male
Immigration Year: 1905
Relation to Head of House: Lodger
Marital Status: Single
Father's Birthplace: Italy
Mother's Birthplace: Italy
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Girolomo Labianca 24
Antonio Costanzo 26
Angelo Deluco 24
Joseph Deluco 21
[22]

it could be your ancestor?
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Re: Stuck for quite some time (D'Amore surname)

Postby suanj » 19 Apr 2012, 12:29

again me:
I think that Angelo and Joseph De Luca was brothers... both immigrated around 1906; I found just 2 brothers: Angelo De Luca and Giuseppe De Luca, matching ages, coming from Patti/San Piero Patti ( Messina, Sicily, IT):


First Name: Angelo
Last Name: DeLuca
Ethnicity: Italy, Italian South
Last Place of Residence: S. Pier Patti
Date of Arrival: Aug 30, 1906
Age at Arrival: 20y Gender: M Marital Status: S
Ship of Travel: Prinzess Irene
Port of Departure: Naples
Manifest Line Number: 0021

joining at brother Giuseppe in Altoona, PA
http://www.ellisisland.org/EIFile/popup ... &line=0021


First Name: Guiseppe
Last Name: Di Luca
Ethnicity: Italy, Italian
Last Place of Residence: Patti
Date of Arrival: Apr 23, 1906
Age at Arrival: 17y Gender: M Marital Status: S
Ship of Travel: Weimar
Port of Departure: Naples
Manifest Line Number: 0026
joining at uncle Francesco Fiore in Altoona, PA
http://www.ellisisland.org/EIFile/popup ... &line=0026

It could be possible that your Giuseppe moved in Buffalo between 1906 and 1910?

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Re: Stuck for quite some time (D'Amore surname)

Postby frankdamore » 24 Apr 2012, 18:55

Hello,

Thank you again for all the assistance Suanj! I hope that may be him. It's so difficult to truly know since my only living grandparent isnt certain who is siblings are. I do know he had a brother, so this is VERY possible.

I did receive confirmation that 20-days from when I placed the order on the 17th, I should be receiving Joseph's SS-Application. This could help piece together a few answers!

I also recently purchased the death certificate for Anthony (Antonio) D'Amore. I was told it should be mailed to me within 10-14 days, so I am very hopeful that sheds some light as well.

I did find a 1920 Census for Antonio D'Amore. It shows he was married (true), but living with two different people in Niagara Falls. I am wondering if that is him. Niagara Falls is just minutes away from Buffalo, but I'm not 100% sold on if it is him.

My next steps are to visit the Ladder Day Saints Church so order some microfilms. My family tree is coming together decently, but these Italian records are very tough to locate! There are so many variations of name spelling (first and last).

I've shifted my focus to the "Russo" side of my family now while I am waiting for these records. I have my greatgrandma's records entirely (except her immigration), but finding anything on her parents has been very tough. I may make a new post about this one for some clarification

Thank you again for the continue assistance. I will update soon!
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Re: Stuck for quite some time (D'Amore surname)

Postby frankdamore » 30 Apr 2012, 21:34

Well the death certificate came for my great-grandfather, Anthony. Ugh, not what I was hoping for. The information is so limited, which is probably the fault of NYs.

The birthdate stated unknown, but 1884. The father's name is Frank (I am at least one step farther), with an unknown mother name and unknown mother maiden name. The actual place of birth as well just shows Italy. My next step is to request the microfilm from Brusciano during his "birth period," so maybe I can get some more answers that way.

I did stumple across a photo while uploading some online. The photo say grandma and grandpa Frank/Maria. I do believe I have at least my great grandmother's first name!

Definately having a difficult time finding the ancestors. I would love to know if Anthony had any brothers or sisters. I really wish my family didn't all pass at such a young age.

Just wanted to update and thank everyone again for their time and assitance, -Frank
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Re: Stuck for quite some time (D'Amore surname)

Postby Italysearcher » 01 May 2012, 09:15

Look for his natruaralization record. It should give some additional information.
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Re: Stuck for quite some time (D'Amore surname)

Postby frankdamore » 06 May 2012, 05:42

Well, I was able to discover a whole bunch of new information. I was in contact with St. Anthony's Church and they were able to supply me with excellent information.

Can anyone shed light if Giuseppe and Pasquale are either brother's or maybe cousins? I am having a difficult time linking the two names together. I have 2 censuses below. There are two Agnes Petrino's. I know

What I lhave:

Agnes E. Petrino (10-1892) married to Antonio D'Amore on 4-6-1913.
Agnes parents are Pasquale and Frances DiGiacomo
This is my great gma

A different Agnes Petrino born in 11-1896
Parents are Guiseppe and Angela Correttore
Guiseppe's parents are Francesco Petrino and Angela Mangione

1900 US Census
http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=1900usfedcen&h=18824897&ti=0&indiv=try&gss=pt&ssrc=pt_t40126434_p19452606051_kpidz0q3d19452606051z0q26pgz0q3d32768z0q26pgPLz0q3dpid
http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=1900usfedcen&h=18827345&ti=0&indiv=try&gss=pt&ssrc=pt_t40126434_p19452606051_kpidz0q3d19452606051z0q26pgz0q3d32768z0q26pgPLz0q3dpid

Any ideas?

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Re: Stuck for quite some time (D'Amore surname)

Postby Tessa78 » 06 May 2012, 16:10

This 1910 Census in Buffalo shows Frances Petrino (written as Petrina) as a widow.
Living with her are daughter Angeline's (Angela) family -

If Pasquale died between 1900 and 1910 Censuses, you should be able to get a death record and see the names of his parents. That may help to determine his relationship to Giuseppe :D

Looking at the family you will notice that there are 2 Agnes' listed. One is 18 and probably the daughter of Frances, the other is 20 and appears to be the wife of "Pascal" (Pasquale?) who is age 24. Both Pascal and his wife Agnes were born in Italy.

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/T ... cc=1727033

Name: Frances Petrina
Birthplace: Italy
Relationship to Head of Household: Mother-in-law
Residence: Buffalo Ward 24, Erie, New York
Marital Status: Widowed
Race : White
Gender: Female
Immigration Year: 1890
Father's Birthplace: Italy
Mother's Birthplace: Italy
Family Number: 240
Page Number: 18
Household Gender Age
Anthony Thomas M 33y
Child Angeline Thomas F 29y
John Thomas M 7y
Frances Petrina F 49y
Frank Petrina M 7y
Dan Petrina M 15y
Agnes Petrina F 18y
Pascall Petrina M 24y
Agnes Petrina F 20y

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