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italian name Leber

Postby murse1973 » 23 Apr 2012, 21:02

My grandfather was born in Italy in 1899 and when he came from the US, he took the name Charles Angelo Leber. I know this is americanized so can some one help me find out what his last name could of been
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Re: italian name Leber

Postby vj » 23 Apr 2012, 23:06

Welcome to the Forum!
We would be happy to help you look.
What records (census, military, marriage) have you already found?
We wouldn't want to duplicate your research.
A quick search has a Chas Angelo Leber in OH in 1918, but he was born in Italy 1889 not 1899. This Chas Leber died in TX in 1972 ...
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Re: italian name Leber

Postby vj » 24 Apr 2012, 16:17

Just in case, a few records for the Chas Angelo Leber born 1889


SSDI
first name: Charles
middle name:
last name: Leber
name suffix:
birth date: 25 November 1889
social security number: 490-01-xxxx
place of issuance: Missouri
last residence: San Antonio, Bexar, Texas
zip code of last residence: 78221
death date: August 1972
estimated age at death: 83
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Death Certificate from Family Search
http://imageshack.us/a/img137/17/1972i.jpg

name: Charles Angelo Leber
death date: 16 Aug 1972
death place: San Antonio, Bexar, Texas
gender: Male
race: white
death age: 82 years
estimated birth date:
birth date: 25 Nov 1889
birthplace: Italy
marital status: Widowed
spouse's name:
father's name: Lawrence Leber
father's birthplace:
mother's name: Rosalina Peta
mother's birthplace:
occupation: Plumber
place of residence: San Antonio, Bexar, Texas
cemetery: Mission Burial Park
burial place: San Antonio, Bexar, Texas
burial date: 18 Aug 1972
additional relatives: X
film number: 2223925
digital film number: 4169219
image number: 1163
reference number: cn 56229
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1920 census in Cincinnati on Colerain Ave
http://imageshack.us/a/img100/3849/1920nv.jpg

Charles Lieber 34 Italy Marie Lieber 20 Ohio
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His SS Application should have his place of birth. Cost abt $30 to order

His SS# is available here if you don’t already have it:
http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Search/ ... _form=true

About the SS Application:
http://genealogy.about.com/od/online_re ... equest.htm
The SS-5, or Application for Social Security Number is a great resource for learning more about individuals who died after about 1960, and generally includes the following:
- Full name
- Full name at birth, including maiden name
- Present mailing address
- Age at last birthday
- Date of birth
- Place of birth
- Father's full name
- Mother's full name, including maiden name
- Sex
- Race as indicated by the applicant
- Whether the applicant ever applied for Social Security or Railroad Retirement before
- Current employer's name and address
- Date signed
- Applicant's signature


Order form SSA-711 (can be done online):
http://www.ssa.gov/foia/html/foia_guide.htm
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Re: italian name Leber

Postby Biff83 » 24 Apr 2012, 17:25

Morning, vj! :D

Prety sure you've found this also. Still trying to determine place of birth

WWI Draft Reg Card

http://imageshack.us/a/img837/2130/leberwwi.jpg

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Re: italian name Leber

Postby vj » 24 Apr 2012, 17:31

Hey Biff!
Thank you!, that's a great WWI card.
Interesting choice of surnames - Cinti had a big German community.
I think his place of birth is on his WWI card, but I can't make it out.
Pretty sure the family moved to Missouri by abt 1932.
Can't locate his WWII card.
It's a shame there's no next of kin on his death certificate..
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Re: italian name Leber

Postby Biff83 » 24 Apr 2012, 17:48

vj wrote:Interesting choice of surnames - Cinti had a big German community.
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Thinking to myself--Liberatore, Liberti, etc. But I could be completely off base.

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Re: italian name Leber

Postby suanj » 24 Apr 2012, 18:06

Hi,
I believe that the birthplace could be Locana (Torino, Piedmont) and Leber could be Laboroi... just my opinion...
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Re: italian name Leber

Postby vj » 24 Apr 2012, 20:19

suanj wrote:Hi,
I believe that the birthplace could be Locana (Torino, Piedmont) and Leber could be Laboroi... just my opinion...
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Hello suanj!
That's a great idea :D .
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Re: italian name Leber

Postby vj » 24 Apr 2012, 20:49

Another record from Family Search
No luck with place of birth on Chas Leber's 1917 marriage record
(wife's name Marie Louise Spatz)

groom's name: Charles Leber
groom's birth date: 1892
groom's birthplace: Italy
groom's age: 25
bride's name: Marie Spatz
bride's birth date: 1896
bride's birthplace: Cin'Ti., O
bride's age: 21
marriage date: 15 Jan 1917
marriage place: Newport, Campbell, Kentucky
groom's father's name: L. Leber
groom's mother's name: Mary Leber
bride's father's name: L. Spatz
bride's mother's name: Barbara Spatz
groom's race: White
groom's marital status: Single
groom's previous wife's name:
bride's race: White
bride's marital status: Single
bride's previous husband's name:
indexing project (batch) number: M01616-4
system origin: Kentucky-EASy
source film number: 1913169
reference number: P187
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edit added:
1900 census for the Spatz family in Cinti
http://imageshack.us/a/img9/378/1900a.jpg
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Re: italian name Leber

Postby murse1973 » 26 Apr 2012, 01:51

Thanks everyone who posted something about by grandfather...I appreciate all that yall posted..On his WW1 draft card, the town where he was born is on there and I googled it and cant find it...I think he spelled it like it sounded. can anyone tell me what the town is...
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Re: italian name Leber

Postby murse1973 » 26 Apr 2012, 02:08

and Im sorry....my grandfather was born in 1889...im sorry
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Re: italian name Leber

Postby pink67 » 27 Apr 2012, 16:13

Don't know if this death certificate could be of any help. It's a 1939 Missouri death certificate for Charles Roy Leber, age 14 son of Charles A Leber and Mary Spatz... In this document Charles A Leber stated that he was born in Engleside - West Virginia:

http://www.sos.mo.gov/images/archives/d ... 044470.PDF

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Re: italian name Leber

Postby suanj » 27 Apr 2012, 16:37

:D Great find Laura!
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Re: italian name Leber

Postby vj » 27 Apr 2012, 16:52

suanj wrote::D Great find Laura!
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I agree :D , Great find Laura!
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Re: italian name Leber

Postby murse1973 » 27 Apr 2012, 23:21

Thanks Pink67,

you dont understand what you found. This was my grandmothers brother who died when he was 14 and we never knew who he was. we have no pictures of him or anything. this is a great find...thank you very much..marie spatz left my grandfather(charles) and my grandmather when my grandmother was 2yrs and was never heard from again and things are slowly starting to piece together...thanks to all who have taken time to find and post things for me....
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