its funny about his birth because his death certificate says italy, when he filled out the draft card in 1917, he put born in italy, but here is does say engleside wv, and i believe I found something else with missouri...I have no clue why there are different birth places..
I believe this may have been the 1910 census for Marie Spatz and her sisters:
1910 United States Federal Census
Name: Marie Spatz Age in 1910: 13 Birth Year: 1897 Birthplace: Ohio Home in 1910: Cincinnati Ward 22, Hamilton, Ohio Race: White Gender: Female Relation to Head of House: Inmate Marital Status: Single Father's Birthplace: Ohio Mother's Birthplace: Ohio
that 1910 census of marie l spatz actually looks like she was in a group home for troubled women. It calls them inmates which is odd. I assume she was a troubled youth. From what I understand, when my grandmother was 2yrs old in 1934, she tried to burn the house down with my grandmother, marie rose leber and my uncle, kenneth leber in the house..she was never seen or heard from again. I am assume she had a mental illness or something because my grandmother suffered from depression and was diagnosed as bipolar.
Oh... what a sad story.. If we only could find Charles's family in the 1930 census maybe some other clues will jump up... Charles Roy Leber was born on 17 october 1925 in St. Louis MO (as per the death certificate), died on 1939 in Pine Lawn, near St. Louis so they must have been living there on 1930. I'm unable to find that census...
Checking records for Spatz in case Marie Spatz Leber moved back to Cinti
Found her father's record at Walnut Hills Cemetery
http://www.walnuthillscemetery.org/ Name: LOUIS P SPATZ Address: 1715 POWER ST. CINCINNATI Born: Date of Death: Apr 28, 1906 Age: 39 Reason: COLITIS Marital Status: M Spouse: Parents: Nearest Relative: WIFE Relative Address: Interment Number: Interment Date: Apr 30, 1906 Cemetery Location: Section: 23 Lot: Grave: 431 Row: 37 Marker: Funeral Director: MUNDELL & YUNGBLUTH Remarks: Disclaimer: This is the complete record on file at the cemetery of this burial. Any missing/incomplete information was not provided to the cemetery at the time of the burial and is not known by the cemetery.
I'm pretty sure this is the index card to Marie Spatz's birth record Using this file in the past, errors are not unusual It's possible that her first name was Alice as shown on the card, or Louise as seen on the 1900 census The birth date also matches the 1900 census From another daughter's record, their mother was Barbara Vogel
Spatz, Alice Born 18 Oct 1897 Female White Address: Powers Street Father: Louisa (Louis P Spatz) Mother: Barbara (Vogel) Father's occupation: Tinner Midwife: B Huber
Hey suanj ! I've helped friends with their research in Cincinnati. There are quite a few records online.
I wish we could answer the original question. I think Charles Angelo Leber was born in Italy. I don't think it would have been unusual for him to tell a census enumerator that he was born in West Virginia - there may not have been many Italians in St Louis. Perhaps his first job was in West Virginia?
When it came to his military record he probably told the truth. His town of birth is on his WWI card, but it's not clear. I'm going to look for a clearer copy of his WWI Card on Family Search