it is very strange that no more records abt Charles Angelo Leber... I found Mary Spatz on 1900 census: 1900 United States Federal Census about Louise M Spatz Name: Louise M Spatz [Louise M Staty] Age: 8 Birth Date: Oct 1898 Birthplace: Ohio Home in 1900: Cincinnati Ward 25, Hamilton, Ohio [Hamilton] Race: White Gender: Female Relation to Head of House: Daughter Marital Status: Single Father's Name: Louis P Spatz Father's Birthplace: Ohio Mother's Name: Barbara Spatz Mother's Birthplace: Ohio Occupation: View on Image Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Louis P Spatz 33 Barbara Spatz 26 Louise M Spatz 8
I was thinking abt Charles Angelo birthplace: Sagant... on the "g" another "n" previous.. it could be possible that "Sagant/Sangant" means Sant'Agata... maybe Sant'Agata di Militello? here exist Liberto surname.... also the first name Charles Angelo... many sicilians used Charles instead of italian Calogero... frankly... I cannot understand why the family is not in 1930 census... I searched so much and nothing... no WWII draft registration card... it is a hard search... suanj
I believe that there are no Missouri WW2 Draft registration cards online...
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Alaska Arkansas* California* Connecticut Delaware Idaho Illinois Indiana* Maryland Massachusetts New Hampshire New Jersey New York* Ohio* Oregon Pennsylvania Puerto Rico Rhode Island Vermont Virginia Washington West Virginia
United States, World War II Draft Registration Cards, 1942
Name index and images of cards for men, age 45-64 (born 1877-1897), included in the fourth draft conducted on April 27, 1942. The indexed portion of this publication currently includes the states of Arkansas, California, Connecticut, Delaware, Hawaii, Indiana, Louisiana, Maryland, Michigan, Nevada, New Jersey, New York Bronx, New York Kings, New York Manhattan, New York Queens, New York Staten Island, Ohio, Oklahoma, Pennsylvania, Texas, West Virginia, and Wisconsin.
Hi! Suanj, great ideas on Sant'Agata di Militello! Laura, thanks for checking out Missouri for WWII cards, that explains why it can't be found. I agree they should be on the 1930 census in St Louis. It's possible they were missed. I've also tried searching for their son Charles/Roy in 1930 without success.
Location: Normandy Twp (Pine Lawn Village), St Louis County, MO Street Address: 4801 Rosewood Ave, rents $10 Residence on 1 Apr 1935: Same Place
head Charles Leber, 46 (abt 1894) West Virginia - divorced - completed 8th grade - clothing cleaner for a clothes cleaning company - paid worker - $616 salary in 1939 son Kenneth Leber 9 (abt 1931) Missouri daughter Mary Leber 7 (abt 1933) Missouri
Hey suanj! I think it's possible that this is the correct family Right location Mary Spatz's first name 'Alice' from 1897 birth record in Cincinnati Son Charles It would not have been unusual for Chas Angelo's first name to have been written incorrectly Birth locations - who knows why they would be incorrect?? It certainly would explain why we've been having trouble locating them Big Hug Valarie
yes dear Valarie, it is the only possible census... he was italian, surely... but for some reason, declaring himself born in West Virginia in 1940... and so maybe he declared that he was born in Missouri in 1930 census... this family had no easy life ... maybe we can search in Illinois births if the son Charles Leber/Leiber was born really .... hugs, suanj
from 1938 Polk's St. Louis County (Missouri) Directory Pine Lawn Station (PL) same neighborhood as 1940 Chas Leber 4713a Jennings Rd (now Jennings Station Rd) Street Directory: - same bldg as the Federal Cleaning Co Name Directory - his wife isn't listed (in parantheses) like other listings
I agree about his age, he seemed to be sensitive about being older.
On his marriage record he was younger again: groom's name: Charles Leber groom's birth date: 1892 groom's birthplace: Italy groom's age: 25 bride's name: Marie Spatz bride's birth date: 1896 bride's birthplace: Cin'Ti., O bride's age: 21
Also, I'm guessing he may have worked in Ingleside (Princeton) Mercer County, West Virginia when he arrived - from the 1939 Death Certificate birth location Valarie
"With more than 17,000 Italian immigrants in the state by 1910, they made up 30 percent of West Virginia’s foreign-born population... While immigrants were attracted to West Virginia from all over the Italian peninsula, the majority came from that country’s southern regions of Campania, Calabria, and Sicily. Many of the Sicilian immigrants came from the center of that island and were fleeing the depressed conditions in the sulfur mining industry..."