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Help with finding grandfathers records

Postby nicolefazio » 20 May 2012, 09:22

Okay so there are a few things for my grandfather I still cannot find and I'm hoping someone can help. I am looking for his :
-Immigration records
-Military records
-Naturalization records( I am not sure if he ever got naturalized)


Name: Giuseppe Fazio
Alternative names: Joseph Fazio, Joseph Fazzio
DOB: 4/23/1897
Place: Bitetto, Italy
Immigration to the USA: 1910-1914?
Father:Leonardo Fazio
Brother: Francesco Fazio/Frank Fazio
Lived in :Manhattan and Bronx NY
Occupation: Ice Dealer,Laborer, Worked at ship yard.

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Re: Help with finding grandfathers records

Postby jamiecapaldi » 20 May 2012, 11:04

Looks like his Father Leonardo went to see his Brother in Law Francesco Pepe (who was Leonards sister Carmela's husband) in New York, 1913 alone:

http://www.ellisisland.org/EIFile/popup ... &line=0015

http://www.ellisisland.org/EIFile/popup ... &line=0015


Here is Francesco Pepe and a Angeloa Fazio (nephew) possibly Giuseppe's brother?

http://www.ellisisland.org/EIFile/popup ... &line=0028
NAMES: Capaldi-Tedesco-Tamilio-Minchella-Verrecchia-Tomasso-Franchitto-Innelli-Arpino-Caringi-Colacicco-Macari-Pinchera-Salera-D'Orazio-Ambrosino-Di Mambro-Sigliocolo-Masello
PLACES: Cassino- UK, USA, Ireland, Canada & Australia
http://www.cassino-families.co.uk

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Re: Help with finding grandfathers records

Postby jamiecapaldi » 20 May 2012, 11:25

Can you tell me Giuseppe's Mothers full Name?
NAMES: Capaldi-Tedesco-Tamilio-Minchella-Verrecchia-Tomasso-Franchitto-Innelli-Arpino-Caringi-Colacicco-Macari-Pinchera-Salera-D'Orazio-Ambrosino-Di Mambro-Sigliocolo-Masello
PLACES: Cassino- UK, USA, Ireland, Canada & Australia
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Re: Help with finding grandfathers records

Postby suanj » 20 May 2012, 11:29

Hi, here a arrival of 1910:

Leonardo Fazio born abt 1867 in Bitetto; wife Anna b. abt 1876 in Bitetto; children Giuseppe 13 old, Maria 9 old, Angela 2 old


New York Passenger Lists, 1820-1957
about Leonardo Fazio
Name: Leonardo Fazio
Arrival Date: 21 Jun 1910
Birth Year: abt 1867
Birth Location: Italy
Birth Location Other: bitetta
Age: 43
Gender: Male
Ethnicity/Race­/Nationality: Italian (South) (Italian)
Port of Departure: Napoli
Port of Arrival: New York, New York
Ship Name: Duca degli Abruzzi

joining at brother Francesco in New York.. all the family was in USA from 1902 to 1910; I believe that Anna died after this arrival and Leonardo remarried at Rose; because I found a probable death record:
Fazio Anna 36 y Apr 12 1912 11755 (1912) Manhattan 1875 - 1876 1323309

other trip:

New York Passenger Lists, 1820-1957 about Leonardo Fazio
Name: Leonardo Fazio
Arrival Date: 22 Oct 1913
Birth Year: abt 1867
Birth Location: Bari
Birth Location Other: biletti
Age: 46
Gender: Male
Ethnicity/Race¬/Nationality: Italian (South) (Italian)
Port of Departure: Naples, Italy
Port of Arrival: New York, New York
Ship Name: Berlin

with new wife Orsola Andreola 26 old ( she is Rose appearing in the censuses?)
Brother Francesco in Bitetto; joining at brother in law Francesco Pepe in NY; already in USA from 1901/1913; Orsola Andreola never in USA before.... she was born in San Nicandro ( or Sannicandro)


1930 United States Federal Census
about Rose Fazzio
Name: Rose Fazzio
Gender: Female
Birth Year: abt 1887
Birthplace: Italy
Race: White
Home in 1930: Bronx, Bronx, New York
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Marital Status: Married
Immigration Year: 1913
Relation to Head of House: Wife
Spouse's Name: Leo Fazzio
Father's Birthplace: Italy
Mother's Birthplace: Italy
Occupation:

Education:

Military Service:

Rent/home value:

Age at first marriage:

Parents' birthplace: View image
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Leo Fazzio 63
Rose Fazzio 43
Sam Fazzio 22
Anthony Fazzio 19
Paul Fazzio 14
John Fazzio 13



1920 United States Federal Census
about Rosie Fazzio
Name: Rosie Fazzio
Age: 32
Birth Year: abt 1888
Birthplace: Italy
Home in 1920: Manhattan Assembly District 18, New York, New York
Race: White
Gender: Female
Immigration Year: 1903 (no: 1913)
Relation to Head of House: Wife
Marital Status: Married
Spouse's Name: Leo Fazzio
Father's Birthplace: Italy
Mother's Birthplace: Italy
Able to read: Yes
Able to Write: Yes
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Leo Fazzio 52
Rosie Fazzio 32
Frank Fazzio 25
Joseph Fazzio 23
Samuel Fazzio 12
Anthony Fazzio 9
Paul Fazzio 5
John Fazzio 3
Paul Andriola 34 same of Orsola maiden name

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Re: Help with finding grandfathers records

Postby jamiecapaldi » 20 May 2012, 11:47

Well done Suanj, You got it!
I clicked on the 1910 record to view from jewishgen.org, but it showed the wrong document!
NAMES: Capaldi-Tedesco-Tamilio-Minchella-Verrecchia-Tomasso-Franchitto-Innelli-Arpino-Caringi-Colacicco-Macari-Pinchera-Salera-D'Orazio-Ambrosino-Di Mambro-Sigliocolo-Masello
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Re: Help with finding grandfathers records

Postby nicolefazio » 20 May 2012, 13:05

what you have posted will help me make sense of the story I know. Leonardo Fazio came alone to the USA in early 1900's ....he went back to Italy around 1905/1906 to bring his son Francesco Fazio to the USA. Than my Grandfather was in the USA and I never knew when he got here. I knew Leonardo remarried and yes Rose Andriola is his new wife... so those immigration records and census are correct. No one ever knew Josephs mothers name because we suspected she died when he was young.... we did a process of elimination with the naming first son after paternal GF etc. and decided Anna would be a good guess. I so want to believe that the 1910 Immigration record is my Grandfather, but we have never heard of him having sisters??? could they possibly be cousins... and they just marked them as sisters. My dad,aunts and uncles would know about him having sisters,unless they both died right after coming to the USA. The two girls Maria and Angela are not on the 1920 Census record. Thank you so much.. let me know what you think about Maria and Angela..?

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Re: Help with finding grandfathers records

Postby suanj » 20 May 2012, 16:37

the first wife died in 1912, see my post above; Maria and Angela surely was daughters of Leonardo and Anna; I know not the destiny of the 2 daughters.....

also I found this 2 trips
First Name: Leonardo
Last Name: Fazio
Ethnicity: Italy, Italian
Last Place of Residence: Grumo
Date of Arrival: Nov 01, 1902
Age at Arrival: 35y Gender: M Marital Status: M
Ship of Travel: Citta di Milano
Port of Departure: Naples
Manifest Line Number: 0025


http://www.ellisisland.org/EIFile/popup ... &line=0025
coming from Grumo Appula ( matching also as Leonardo birthplace on the 1925 trip) and joining at brother Tommaso..

and in 1906 with oldest son Francesco ( Frank):

First Name: Leonardo
Last Name: Fazio
Ethnicity: Italy, Italian South
Last Place of Residence: Gruma Appalo
Date of Arrival: Nov 10, 1906
Age at Arrival: 39y Gender: M Marital Status: M
Ship of Travel: Nord America
Port of Departure: Napoli
Manifest Line Number: 0013

http://www.ellisisland.org/EIFile/popup ... &line=0013
Leonardo joining at Francesco brother in NY

so Anna and other children travelled after Nov 10, 1906..
Leonardo had also a sister Anna Fazio ( Fazio maiden name) that travelled with her uncle Pietro Fazio and joining at Leonardo Fazio in NY
First Name: Anna
Last Name: Fazio
Ethnicity: Italy, Italian South
Last Place of Residence: Gruma Pula
Date of Arrival: Sep 06, 1906
Age at Arrival: 18y Gender: F Marital Status: S
Ship of Travel: Roma
Port of Departure: Naples
Manifest Line Number: 0005


http://www.ellisisland.org/EIFile/popup ... &line=0005
Leonardo surely was born in Grumo Appula, but most probably moved in Bitetto .. when I know not...
I believe that, the options are 2 abt Giuseppe arrival:
or he arrived the first time in 1910 with parents and siblings and on the ship's manifest only Leonardo was already in USA before of 1910; or he travelled also before of 1910 but travelled under mother maiden name, that is possible...
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Re: Help with finding grandfathers records

Postby nicolefazio » 20 May 2012, 23:41

Thank you :)

I have searched the grumo appula microfilms for birth records and I did not find Leonardo Fazio anytime between 1860-1870 , at this point I'm going to try to locate Joseph's birth record and Leonardo's marriage record to Anna ... She was from Bitetto the marriage would have been there. I appreciate all the info you have given me .

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Re: Help with finding grandfathers records

Postby nicolefazio » 23 May 2012, 21:27

Im trying to get a death certificate and they are giving me a hard time about not knowing my grandfathers Social Security number. Any ideas or suggestions.. I have looked in the SSDI.. and I can't find anything.. Id like to find it for Giuseppe Fazio and his dad Leonardo Fazio.. if I can.


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