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How can I find out which Comune my gggf was from?

Postby patova68 » 24 May 2012, 04:30

Hi everyone, I recently made a trip to Uruguay to find out more about my Italian heritage and I was only able to find that my great-great-grandfather Carlo(s) Vacani was born in 1862 and was from Lombardia.
Any advice on where to search next? I read recently that all Italian men at 19 had military duties, but I still require a Comune to find this.
I don't know where to continue my search. I will be traveling to Milano in August and was hoping to visit where my family came from.

Please help!

Thanks
Patricia

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Re: How can I find out which Comune my gggf was from?

Postby suanj » 24 May 2012, 11:27

Hi maybe the right spelling could be VACCANI, Como area, Lombardia region..
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Re: How can I find out which Comune my gggf was from?

Postby suanj » 24 May 2012, 11:55

Patricia, I found a genealogic tree on ancestry.com, that I believe you are the owner:

Carlos Vacani Ponisia
Birth About 1862 in Lombardia, Italy
Death 28, December 1956 in Colón, Montevideo, Uruguay

father Bernardo Vacani ( Bernardo VACCANI right)
mother Juana Ponisia ( Giovanna PONISIO right)


well the right surnames are VACCANI and PONISIO; I believe that your ancestor coming from Lezzeno town, Como province, because I found a death record abt:


Como e Lecco, Lombardia, Italia: Registri di stato civile, 1866-1936 Como and Lecco, Lombardy, Italy, Civil Registration Records, 1866-1936 about Maddalena Vaccani

Name: Maddalena Vaccani
Birth Year: abt 1854
Father: Bernardo
Mother: Giovanna Ponisio
Record Type: Decesso ( =death)
Date: 13 nov 1891
City: Lezzeno

County: Como
Country: Italia (Italy)

Maddalena Vaccani was married at Giuseppe Gelpi( spell? no much readable)..

other probable brother of your Carlos:

Como e Lecco, Lombardia, Italia: Registri di stato civile, 1866-1936 Como and Lecco, Lombardy, Italy, Civil Registration Records, 1866-1936 about Giovanni Vaccani
Name: Giovanni Vaccani
Birth Year: abt 1853
Father: Bernardo
Mother: Giovanna Ponisco
( Ponisio)
Spouse: Giovanna Giuseppa Ponisio
Record Type: Matrimonio (=marriage)
Date: 24 feb 1881
City: Lezzeno
County: Como
Country: Italia (Italy)
in 1881 Bernardo was decesead and Giovanni Vaccani nee Ponisio was living

more:
Como e Lecco, Lombardia, Italia: Registri di stato civile, 1866-1936 Como and Lecco, Lombardy, Italy, Civil Registration Records, 1866-1936 about Clementina Vaccani
Name: Clementina Vaccani
Birth Year: abt 1857
Father: Bernardo
Mother: Giovanna Ponisio

Spouse: Battista Lanzani
Record Type: Matrimonio (marriage)
Date: 2 gen 1882 (2 Jan 1882)
City: Lezzeno
County: Como
Country: Italia (Italy)

Giovanna Ponisio was living in 1882 also...

Como e Lecco, Lombardia, Italia: Registri di stato civile, 1866-1936 Como and Lecco, Lombardy, Italy, Civil Registration Records, 1866-1936 about Giuseppa Vaccani
Name: Giuseppa Vaccani
Birth Year: abt 1859
Father: Bernardo
Mother: Giovanna Ponisio

Spouse: Giuseppe Posca
Record Type: Matrimonio
Date: 31 gen 1882 (31 Jan 1882)
City: Lezzeno
County: Como
Country: Italia (Italy)

Giuseppa death:
Como e Lecco, Lombardia, Italia: Registri di stato civile, 1866-1936 Como and Lecco, Lombardy, Italy, Civil Registration Records, 1866-1936 about Giuseppina Vaccani
Name: Giuseppina Vaccani
Birth Year: abt 1865
Father: Bernardo
Mother: Giovannina Ponisio

Record Type: Decesso (=death)
Date: 28 lug 1920 (28 Jul 1920)
City: Lezzeno
County: Como
Country: Italia (Italy)

other :

Como e Lecco, Lombardia, Italia: Registri di stato civile, 1866-1936 Como and Lecco, Lombardy, Italy, Civil Registration Records, 1866-1936 about Linda Vaccani
Name: Linda Vaccani
Birth Year: abt 1864
Father: Bernardo
Mother: Giovanna Ponisio

Record Type: Decesso (=death)
Date: 12 gen 1892 (12 Jan 1892)
City: Lezzeno
County: Como
Country: Italia (Italy)

unmarried...

Giovanna Ponisio death:

Como e Lecco, Lombardia, Italia: Registri di stato civile, 1866-1936 Como and Lecco, Lombardy, Italy, Civil Registration Records, 1866-1936 about Giovanna Ponisio
Name: Giovanna Ponisio
Birth Year: abt 1832
Father: Pietro
Mother: Maria Barindelli
Record Type: Decesso (=death)
Date: 5 feb 1903
City: Lezzeno
County: Como
Country: Italia (Italy)


the Bernardo Vaccani and Giovanna Ponisio of Lezzeno had also another son: VACCANI Carlo Giovanni, 78 old decesead in Lezzeno, widow of Giuseppa Ponisio

Como e Lecco, Lombardia, Italia: Registri di stato civile, 1866-1936 Como and Lecco, Lombardy, Italy, Civil Registration Records, 1866-1936 about Carlo Giovanni Vaccani
Name: Carlo Giovanni Vaccani
Birth Year: abt 1853
Father: Bernardo
Mother: Giovanna Pavesio ( Ponisio right; transcription error)
Record Type: Decesso
Date: 22 mag 1931 (22 May 1931)
City: Lezzeno
County: Como
Country: Italia (Italy)

the above records could be abt your Carlos Vacani parents and siblings?
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Re: How can I find out which Comune my gggf was from?

Postby patova68 » 24 May 2012, 14:49

Hi Suanj, WOW, thank you so much for this quick turnaround and all this information.
My family was adamant our last name was only spelt with one "C", because that's how my gggf signed his name, but i guess he changed it when he arrived in Uruguay.
Question, you mention above there was another Carlo Vaccani son of Bernardo & Giovanna. What are the chances they have another son 9 years later and name him Carlos again? Is this common?

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Re: How can I find out which Comune my gggf was from?

Postby suanj » 24 May 2012, 15:44

I no searched all availables civil records (1866-1936) but surely Bernardo and Giovanna had many children and some same first name of a child was also a first name or the middle name of another child...
for exemple from Bernardo and Giovanna was born
-Giuseppa Vaccani born in 1859
-and Giuseppa Isolina Vaccani born on 20 may 1865...
baptized in the church of SS. Quirico and Giulitta in Lezzeno; it is possible that also your Carlo was baptized in the same church....




However in all Como and Lecco area, I found just 1 Bernardo Vaccani; and this only Bernardo Vaccani was married at Giovanna Ponisio, so cannot be a coincidence..

for bad luck the civil records in this area are from 1866 to 1936 .. but it are the record in the parish..
If my suggestion is right and the above records are abt your Carlos family,
maybe to write at priest could be a way for to obtain almost the baptism certificate, because the civil records starting from 1866...

( if you wish write, better to write in good italian and please to specify in the request, if, you need of baptism certificate, for dual citizenship):

Rev.Do Sac. ORESTE SALICE
Parrocchia SANTI QUIRICO E GIULITTA
P.ZZA ROMA 9
22025 LEZZENO (CO)
ITALY

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Re: How can I find out which Comune my gggf was from?

Postby patova68 » 25 May 2012, 17:33

Grazie Suanji!! Definitivamente scriverò una lettera, or I might wait until my visit to Lezzno in agosto.
Mil Grazie!! :)


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