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Looking for information on Carmine Pezza

Postby kikiinjuneau » 01 Jun 2012, 01:58

Looking for some information on Carmine Pezza. He lived at 495 Carroll Street, Brooklyn, NY according to the 1900 census. It also says he was born in 1861 in Italy. He had at least 2 children - Katie and Anne, and he immigrated in 1892. However, that is all I can find out about him. Not sure where in Italy he is from and he seems to disappear after that census. Thanks in advance for your help!

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Re: Looking for information on Carmine Pezza

Postby pink67 » 01 Jun 2012, 12:54

From the site familysearch.org the 1905 NY census for Carmine and family, living at the same address:

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/T ... cc=1463113

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Re: Looking for information on Carmine Pezza

Postby suanj » 01 Jun 2012, 18:45

Hi Laura thank you, great find!
By 1900 census:

1900 United States Federal Census about Carmen Pezzi
Name: Carmen Pezzi
[Carmeno Pezzie]
Age: 39
Birth Date: Apr 1861
Birthplace: Italy
Home in 1900: Brooklyn Ward 10, Kings, New York
[Kings]
Race: White
Gender: Male
Immigration Year: 1892
Relation to Head of House: Head
Marital Status: Married
Spouse's Name: Maria Pezzi
Marriage Year: 1887
Years Married: 13
Father's Birthplace: Italy
Mother's Birthplace: Italy
Occupation: View on Image

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Household Members: Name Age
Carmen Pezzi
39
Maria Pezzi
34
Annie Pezzi (b.Feb 1888 IT)
12
Katie Pezzi ( b. Dec 1892 IT)
7
Giovano Desderio
30 boarder
Johana Cardinato ( mother in law b. Oct 1843)
58


well... really ....Giovanni Desiderio was the brother in law of Carmine;

I found him arrival:

First Name: Giovanni
Last Name: Desiderio
Ethnicity: Italy, Italian
Last Place of Residence: Angri
Date of Arrival: Sep 24, 1898
Age at Arrival: 29y Gender: M Marital Status: S
Ship of Travel: Spartan Prince
Port of Departure: Naples
Manifest Line Number: 0030

coming from Angri ( Salerno province) and joining at brother iln law Carmine PIZZO 495 ... Brooklyn

http://www.ellisisland.org/EIFile/popup ... &line=0030

the name of mother in law maybe is Giovanna Cardinale; but I know not if Cardinale was her maiden name; Cardinale is a surname of Angri also...
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Re: Looking for information on Carmine Pezza

Postby pink67 » 04 Jun 2012, 14:59

I think that Carmine's wife maiden name was Maria Citro , this is her possible 1893 arrival manifest from the site Ancestry.com:

New York Passenger Lists, 1820-1957

Name: Citra Maria
Arrival Date: 14 Aug 1893
Birth Year: abt 1866
Age: 27
Gender: Female
Ethnicity/Race­/Nationality: Italian
Port of Departure: Genoa, Italy
Port of Arrival: New York, New York
Ship Name: Fulda
Search Ship Database: Search the Fulda in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database

image here:
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Maria was travelling with her two daughter Annina (Annunziata on the 1905 NY census) age 4 (approx. birth year 1889) and Fortuna (Fortunata on the 1905 NY Census) age 1 (approx. birth year 1892).

I'm not 100% surte but I believe that her mother correct italian maiden name was Giovanna Carotenuto, this is her possible 1898 arrival manifest:

27 april 1898

Carotenuto Giovanna, age 64, female, widow, from Angri :!: to Hoboken NJ to jon her son Giovanni? Citro, travelling with another son, Giuseppe Citro, US citizen:

http://www.ellisisland.org/EIFile/popup ... &line=0006

This confirms Suanj's found for Angri as place of origin :D

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Re: Looking for information on Carmine Pezza

Postby suanj » 04 Jun 2012, 15:34

Hi Laura great find! I believe you found the right family members!
So Katie first name really was Fortuna or Fortunata.... the problem is to find the other censuses...
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Re: Looking for information on Carmine Pezza

Postby kpalmigiano » 04 Jun 2012, 19:28

Wow that is great! Thanks so much for your help. I'll start with that information and see what else I can dig up on Familysearch and Ancestry.com. Really appreciate your help!

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Re: Looking for information on Carmine Pezza

Postby pink67 » 04 Jun 2012, 19:47

We're happy to help! I had no luck with the censuses but found a possible record for Carmine Pizzo (son of Carmine senior):

From Ancestry.com:

World War I Draft Registration Cards, 1917-1918

Name: Carmen Pezzo
City: Brooklyn
County: Kings
State: New York
Birth Date: 6 Jan 1899
Race: White
FHL Roll Number: 1754394
DraftBoard: 48

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I'm not sure that he was your ancestor's son but I noticed that he was a barber and also his father (named Carmine as him) was a barber too (so, same occupation on the 1900 and 1905 censuses)... they were living in Brooklyn on 276 Fifth Avenue

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Re: Looking for information on Carmine Pezza

Postby kpalmigiano » 05 Jun 2012, 01:52

That was really helpful.I found some good information about Carmine's wife, Maria Citro, and her family, but unfortunately I'm still at a loss as to the name of Carmine's parents. I'm thinking I'm having a lot of trouble, because there seemed to be several name/spelling changes. Any help with this part would be great. It's day 5 on just him, and I'm starting to get a bit frustrated! :-)

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Re: Looking for information on Carmine Pezza

Postby suanj » 05 Jun 2012, 10:19

Hi abt several name/spelling changes you are right.. I agree...

I believe that this census could be abt your Carmine sr: barber,
son Carmine also barber( born in NY 1899)
and another son: Raffaele age 13 also born in NY;

Carmine sr is married but no wife on this census...
just he and the two sons;
the surname is spelled Spezzo:
1920 United States Federal Census about Carmine Spezzo
Name: Carmine Spezzo
[Armine Spezzo]
Age: 58
Birth Year: abt 1862
Birthplace: Italy
Home in 1920: Brooklyn Assembly District 10, Kings, New York
Race: White
Gender: Male
Immigration Year: 1890
Relation to Head of House: Head
Marital Status: Married
Father's Birthplace: Italy
Mother's Birthplace: Italy
Home Owned: Rent
Able to Read: No
Able to Write: No
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Carmine Spezzo 58
Carmino Spezzo 21
Raffaele Spezzo 13


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Re: Looking for information on Carmine Pezza

Postby pink67 » 05 Jun 2012, 10:34

Great find Suanj!

possible birth dates for son Raffaele?

from Italiangen.org:

Pezza Raphael
birth date Apr 4 1908
Certificate number 11710
County Kings

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Re: Looking for information on Carmine Pezza

Postby Biff83 » 05 Jun 2012, 14:04

Morning Laura and suanj,

Possible marriage record for son Carmine:

Groom: Carmine Pezzo
Bride: Antoinette Annunziata
Date: Jul 10 1921
License# 8858 (1921)
County: Kings

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Postby Biff83 » 05 Jun 2012, 14:32

1930 census for sons Carmine and Ralph?

http://imageshack.us/a/img84/9762/delpezzo1930.jpg

Name: Carmen Delpezzo?
Gender: Male
Birth Year: abt 1900
Birthplace: New York
Race: White
Home in 1930: Brooklyn, Kings, New York
Marital Status: Married
Relation to Head of House: Head
Spouse's Name: Antoinette Delpezzo
Father's Birthplace: Italy
Mother's Birthplace: Italy
Occupation: Barber
Household Members: Name Age
Carmen Delpezzo 30
Antoinette Delpezzo 31
Ralph Delpezzo 7
Carmen Delpezzo 6
Ralph Delpezzo 22, brother, barber

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Re: Looking for information on Carmine Pezza

Postby pink67 » 05 Jun 2012, 14:40

Wow Biff!!! Great find!!! :D

You're correct, this is Carmine's death date:

Social Security Death Index

Name: Carmine Delpezzo
SSN:
Last Residence: 11232 Brooklyn, Kings, New York, United States of America
Born: 6 Jan 1899
Died: Feb 1969
State (Year) SSN issued: New York (1951)

Birth dates matches with the WW1 draft registration Card...

Pink67 wrote:From Ancestry.com:

World War I Draft Registration Cards, 1917-1918

Name: Carmen Pezzo
City: Brooklyn
County: Kings
State: New York
Birth Date: 6 Jan 1899
Race: White
FHL Roll Number: 1754394
DraftBoard: 48

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So, possibly the correct italian lastname name was Del Pezzo...

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Re: Looking for information on Carmine Pezza

Postby pink67 » 05 Jun 2012, 14:57

suanj wrote:Hi abt several name/spelling changes you are right.. I agree...

I believe that this census could be abt your Carmine sr: barber,
son Carmine also barber( born in NY 1899)
and another son: Raffaele age 13 also born in NY;

Carmine sr is married but no wife on this census...
just he and the two sons;
the surname is spelled Spezzo:

1920 United States Federal Census about Carmine Spezzo
Name: Carmine Spezzo
[Armine Spezzo]
Age: 58
Birth Year: abt 1862
Birthplace: Italy
Home in 1920: Brooklyn Assembly District 10, Kings, New York
Race: White
Gender: Male
Immigration Year: 1890
Relation to Head of House: Head
Marital Status: Married
Father's Birthplace: Italy
Mother's Birthplace: Italy
Home Owned: Rent
Able to Read: No
Able to Write: No
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Carmine Spezzo 58
Carmino Spezzo 21
Raffaele Spezzo 13


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I just noticed that one of the families living at the same address of Carmine was :

1920 United States Federal Census

Name: Carmine Jordan
[Armine Jordan??]
Age: 35
Birth Year: abt 1885
Birthplace: Italy
Home in 1920: Brooklyn Assembly District 10, Kings, New York
Race: White
Gender: Male
Immigration Year: 1902
Relation to Head of House: Head
Marital Status: Married
Spouse's Name: Annie Jordan
Father's Birthplace: Italy
Mother's Birthplace: Italy
Home Owned: Rent
Able to Read: No
Able to Write: No
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Carmine Jordan 35
Annie Jordan 30
Maggie Jordan 12
Pauline Jordan 9
Gaetano Jordan 7
Gaetano Jordan 6
Benjamin Jordan 3
Mary Jordan 1

I believe that Annie Giordano was Annunziata Pizzo/Pezzo/Del Pezzo, these are her marriage dates:

Giordone Carmine Mar 8 1906 1977 Kings
Pezza Anna Mar 8 1906 1977 Kings

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Re: Looking for information on Carmine Pezza

Postby suanj » 05 Jun 2012, 15:37

Hi Laura and Biff,
the last inputs are wonderfuls!
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