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Sagona/Celino

Postby sagona1885 » 12 Jun 2012, 19:41

I'm looking for information on my grandparents both from Palermo,Alia. My grandfather Sando Celino imigrated in 1895 and my grandmother Gaetana Sagona imigrated in 1898 from Alia to New York,then to New Orleans and settled in Napoleonville, Louisiana. I would also like to know the name of the plantation in Napoleonville that housed them. Also I would like any information(records) I can get from Palermo,Alia on them as well as their parents.

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Re: Sagona/Celino

Postby vj » 26 Jun 2012, 01:17

Welcome to the Forum!
We'll be happy to see what we can do to help.
Do you have your family's US records? (census, military, immigration, vital records, etc)
Sometimes they can contain clues that can help with your research into Italian records.
These 3 records may help, if you haven't seen them already.
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Santo Celino (abt 25 Dec 1877)

1918 WWI Draft Registration Card
http://imageshack.us/a/img220/1844/1918s.jpg

Santo Celino
Meraux Post Office
St Bernard Parish, LA
41 yrs old
Born 25 Dec 1877 (date may be an estimate) in Italy
Non-declarant
Blacksmith
Nearest relative: wife at same address

1894 Ship Manifest
http://imageshack.us/a/img411/8212/1894t.jpg

SS Kronprinz Friedrich Wilhelm
Arrival 17 Oct 1894
Palermo to NY

Santo Cilino 17, abt 1877
- single
- laborer
- destination New Orleans
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Gaetana Sagona (abt 1886) traveling with her mother(?) and sisters

1898 Ship Manifest
http://imageshack.us/a/img843/6656/1898l.jpg

SS Aller
Arrival 12 Oct 1898, New York
lines 1-5

Concetta Damiana Paulli (probably Taulli) 33, abt 1865
- married
- house wife
- last residence Alia
- destination New Orleans, San Patrick
- joining brother-in-law Lorenzo Sagona

(children)
Gaetana Sagena 13, abt 1886
Maria Calogera Sagena 9, abt 1889
Concetta Sagena 7, abt 1891
Elisabetta Sagena 10 mos, abt 1897

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Re: Sagona/Celino

Postby vj » 26 Jun 2012, 01:35

For reference, here are census records in Jefferson and St Bernard Parishes

1930 census
http://imageshack.us/a/img98/6668/1930r.jpg

Home in 1930:
Police Jury Ward 3, St Bernard, Louisiana

Sam Celino 52, abt 1878
Tina Celino 48, abt 1882
children all born in LA
Tony Celino 27 Roseline Celino 25 Frank Celino 23 Rosinia Celino 21 Joe Celino 19 Sam Celino 17 Johnie Celino 15 Angelina Celino 13 Clara Celino 10 Marie Celino 8 Gercia Celino 6 Rita Celino 4 1/12 Chetia Celino 3 1/12

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1920 census
http://imageshack.us/a/img825/3918/1920c.jpg
next page
http://imageshack.us/a/img706/1301/1920bp.jpg

Home in 1920:
Police Jury Ward 2, St Bernard, Louisiana

Samuel Celina 42, abt 1878
Tena Celina 34, abt 1886
children all born in LA
Anthony Celina 16 Russell Celina 15 Frank Celina 13 Rose Celina 11 Joseph Celina 9 Samuel Celina 6 John Celina 4 Angelina Celina 3 Clara Celina 6/12
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1910 census
http://imageshack.us/a/img856/1659/1910k.jpg

Home in 1910:
Harvey, Jefferson, Louisiana

Sam Galeni 31, abt 1879
- married 10 yrs, abt 1900
Lena Galeni 24, abt 1886
children all born in LA
Tony Galeni 7 Rosie Galeni 5 Frank Galeni 3 Rosene Galeni 1

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Re: Sagona/Celino

Postby vj » 26 Jun 2012, 16:06

Santo Celino's 1942 WWII Draft Registration Card
from FamilySearch
http://imageshack.us/a/img856/7483/1942a.jpg

Sam Celino
Chalmette, St Bernard, LA
64 yrs old
Born 25 Dec 1877 in Palermo
Mrs Tina Celino at same address
Self employed in Chalmette, St Bernard, LA

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Re: Sagona/Celino

Postby Tessa78 » 26 Jun 2012, 16:20

Hey vj! :-D

Using the date of birth you provided above on the Draft Reg. Card, I was able to locate a possible birth record for "Sando Celino" :-)

Name is actually SANTO CILINO

Record #283
Born in Alia, 26 December 1877 @ 2:15 AM
to
Antonino Cilino, 23, farmer; and to
Rosa Nocito, his legitimate wife

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Re: Sagona/Celino

Postby vj » 26 Jun 2012, 16:32

:D Hey T :D ,
Great record!
Cilino was transcribed on Santo's 1894 ship's manifest
And his parents' names match his first two children.
Wish I could find Santo Celino or Gaetana Sagona (& her family) in 1900.
They could be in New Orlean's, Jefferson Parish or according to the poster, Assumption Parish (Napoleanville), or ???

First son Anthony born 1903
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Here's 1940

1940 census
http://imageshack.us/a/img51/4364/1940g.jpg

St Bernard Highway, owns $1900
Chalmette, St Bernard, LA

head Sam Celino 61, abt 1879 Italy
- alien
- laborer, construction
wife Teeno(?) Celino 52, abt 1888 Italy
son John Celino 26 LA
daughter Virginia Celino 18 LA
daughter Rita Celino 15 LA

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Re: Sagona/Celino

Postby Tessa78 » 26 Jun 2012, 16:44

Possible birth record for Gaetana Sagona in Alia...
Close to the date you found, Valarie :-)

Record #228 in Alia
DOB - 7 September 1885
Father: Antonino Sagona, 25
Mother: Arcangela Miceli, his wife (this name is different from manifest :? )

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Re: Sagona/Celino

Postby vj » 26 Jun 2012, 17:16

Great T!
Not sure if she was traveling with her mother
The right side of the manifest was difficult to make out.
I assumed the brother-in-law's name was split on two lines
Sago...na Lorenzo
Pretty sure the surname was Taulli, but I can't see where either 'given' name was used for Santo & Gaetana's children...
I think, a 1900 census for the folks on the 1898 manifest would help

corrected per Livio & T's finds

http://imageshack.us/a/img843/6656/1898l.jpg

not mother, probably an aunt: Concetta Damiana Paulli (Taulli?) 33, abt 1865

Gaetana Sagena (Sagona) 13, abt 1886
Maria Calogera Sagena 9, abt 1889
Concetta Sagena 7, abt 1891
Elisabetta Sagena 10 mos, abt 1897

Still having no luck
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Re: Sagona/Celino

Postby liviomoreno » 26 Jun 2012, 17:26

Gaetana Sagona and her sisters were not traveling with their mother.
I have checked Maria Calogera birth act https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/T ... 1022261478 and her parents are the same as Gaetana's: Antonino Sagona and Arcangela Miceli

Concetta Damiana Taulli is an aunt...
Edited to change Paulli into Taulli

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Re: Sagona/Celino

Postby vj » 26 Jun 2012, 17:34

Livio :D ,
Thank you so much!
That's a great help.
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Re: Sagona/Celino

Postby liviomoreno » 26 Jun 2012, 17:41

Elisbatta was the daughter of Antonino Sagona and...
of his legitimate wife Damiana Concetta Taulli! https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/T ... 1022261478
At this point I would say that Arcangela Micela died some time before 1897. Need to check Concetta's birth...

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Re: Sagona/Celino

Postby liviomoreno » 26 Jun 2012, 17:47

Concetta Sagona's mother was Arcangela Miceli
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/T ... 1022261478

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Re: Sagona/Celino

Postby vj » 26 Jun 2012, 17:58

Great finds Livio!

I found an Antonino Sagona on the same Oct 1898 ship manifest (different page) age 60, joining brother Lorenzo.


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SS Aller
12 Oct 1898
http://imageshack.us/a/img41/4174/1898z.jpg

Antonino Sagona 38, abt 1860
- married
- last residence Alia
- destination New Orleans
- joining brother Lorenzo Sagona at SS Patrick Plantation(?), N Orleans

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Re: Sagona/Celino

Postby liviomoreno » 26 Jun 2012, 18:04

Arcangela Miceli died June 21 1895 aged 32
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/T ... 1003852074

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Re: Sagona/Celino

Postby vj » 26 Jun 2012, 18:19

Livio & T,
Thank you so much for tying the family together.
Valarie

A summary of the 1898 manifest from your findings:

Antonino Sagona and his second wife Damiana Concetta Taulli traveled to the St Patrick Plantation in New Orleans on 12 Oct 1898 with 4 children:
Antonino Sagona and 1st wife Arcangela Miceli's 3 daughters Gaetana, Maria Calogera & Concetta
and Antonino Sagona and second wife Damiana Concetta Tuilli's daughter Elisbatta.
They were joining Antonino's brother Lorenzo Sagona.


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