what is a CALZONETTI shirt???????????

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what is a CALZONETTI shirt???????????

Postby Phyllisry » 29 Jun 2012, 01:11

what is a CALZONETTI shirt???????????
I'm still investigating the 1854 ship wreck off Villefrance. The Captain was rescued....wearing a Calzonetti shirt???? What IS that!!
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Re: what is a CALZONETTI shirt???????????

Postby Tessa78 » 29 Jun 2012, 03:15

Hello Phyllis :-)

Could you post the original source for us?

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Re: what is a CALZONETTI shirt???????????

Postby Phyllisry » 01 Jul 2012, 00:38

part of a sentence........ De Pace per giustificare che Miceli quando veniva dalle onde ritirato e salvato sul Sicilia, era vestito di sola camicia e calzonetti, per poscia conchiudere quando......
wow......long sentence!! Do you need more? It's something about the shirt the Captain Miceli was wearing when they rescued him from the sea.

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Postby Tessa78 » 01 Jul 2012, 02:19

Phyllisry wrote:part of a sentence........ De Pace per giustificare che Miceli quando veniva dalle onde ritirato e salvato sul Sicilia, era vestito di sola camicia e calzonetti, per poscia conchiudere quando......
wow......long sentence!! Do you need more? It's something about the shirt the Captain Miceli was wearing when they rescued him from the sea.



I believe he "was dressed in only shirt and shorts" (or briefs) :-)
It was not a type of shirt...

The translaton of "calzoni" is "trousers" and "calzoncini" is "shorts" - :D

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Postby Phyllisry » 01 Jul 2012, 20:09

O My!! Guess he was in bed sleeping when the 2 ships ran into each other! Thanx for clearing that up. Proves he wasn't at the helm doesn't it!
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Re: what is a CALZONETTI shirt???????????

Postby Tessa78 » 02 Jul 2012, 02:34

Don't know if I would make that leap :shock:

The "calzonetti" could have been a particular type of trouser.

If he was wearing an undershirt it probably would have been identified as "maglietta"

So he was in only a shirt and shorts/trousers... possibly missing his shoe(s) and hat, etc.

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Re: what is a CALZONETTI shirt???????????

Postby PippoM » 02 Jul 2012, 08:04

I'm not an expert of the language and wearing of the time, but I'd say that "camicia e calzonetti" is something comparable to underwear of today (and I think that was the meaning of the sentence). You should not think of a shirt in the "modern" sense, like the one used with jacket and necktie...nowadays we'd probably say "maglietta e mutande" ("t-shirt and pants"), but maybe such words were not used at the time, or considered inappropriate.
Anyway...oh, online translators! :roll:
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