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Need Help locating Family Censuses

Postby Mardi » 07 Jul 2012, 00:00

I am in need of your help.I have tried looking for Nicholas Cuccia born 1868, Corleone, Sicily, married - Leoluchina (Laura) Calamusa in 1896, Corleone, Scily. Came to the USA around the early 1900's. Settle in Louisiana. There children were:
Mary born 1897, Corleone, Scily
Catherine born: 1900, all the rest of the children were born in Louisiana
Philippa (Fannie) born 1903
Frank born 1906,
Rose born 1907
Stella born 1910
Marie born 1911
Manuel born 1913
Luke born 1918
Joseph born 1922
I cannot find any information on the family. I have looked for the 1900 thru 1930 Census. Also looked for the ship Nicholas, Laura and Mary arrived and could not find any information. Anything would be greatly appreciated.
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Re: Need Help locating Family Censuses

Postby Tessa78 » 07 Jul 2012, 01:54

Here is a possible listing for the death of Stella Cuccia in Jackson, Louisiana.
The age is correct for the birth date you gave.

Name: Stella Cuccia

Death Date: 30 Oct 1942
Death Place: Jackson, , East Feliciana, Louisiana
Gender: Female
Race (original): White
Race (standardized): White
Age: 32
Estimated Birth Year: 1910
Birth Place: Louisiana
Marital Status: Single
Spouse's Name:
Father's Name:
Mother's Name:
Film number: 1183938
Image Number: 01121
Certificate Number: 1571
Digital Folder Number: 4213498

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Re: Need Help locating Family Censuses

Postby Tessa78 » 07 Jul 2012, 02:06

This appears to be the family in the 1940 Census.
Laura is a widow.
It looks like they must have lived in Texas at some point because Frank, Marie and Luke were born there, and other children were born in Louisiana.

Name: Manuel Cuccia
Titles & Terms:
Event: Census
Event Year: 1940
Event Place: Ward 1, New Orleans, New Orleans City, Orleans, Louisiana, United States
Gender: Male
Age: 26
Marital Status: Married
Race (Original): White
Race (Standardized): White
Relationship to Head of Household (Original): Son
Relationship to Head of Household (Standardized): Son
Birthplace: Louisiana
Estimated Birth Year: 1914
Residence in 1935: Same House
Enumeration District Number: 36-7
Family Number: 450
Sheet Number and Letter: 19A
Line Number: 11
NARA Publication Number: T627
NARA Roll Number: 1416
Digital Folder Number: 005454534
Image Number: 00161
Household Gender Age Birthplace
Head Laura Cuccia F 62 Italy
Daughter Marie Cuccia F 28 Texas
Son Luke Cuccia M 21 Texas
Son Joe Cuccia M 16 Louisiana
Son Frank Cuccia M 33 Texas
Daughter-in-law Bessie Cuccia F 24 Texas
Granddaughter Laura L Cuccia F 1 Louisiana
Son Manuel Cuccia M 26 Louisiana
Daughter-in-law Mabel Cuccia F 22 Louisiana

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Re: Need Help locating Family Censuses

Postby Mardi » 07 Jul 2012, 14:46

Thank you Tessa78, for finding the family in the 1940 Census. I have search for sometime to locate the family in some of the earlier census. It seems as thou they were/are under a different name, with all the kids something should show up.
I was looking under Louisiana Census, will check out Texas.
Thank you so much.....
P.S. Information you sent on Stella....that is the correct one...Thanks

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Re: Need Help locating Family Censuses

Postby Tessa78 » 07 Jul 2012, 17:13

Hello Mardi :-)

Glad the records were the correct family!

Here is another record I've found. Not sure if this is the family, but there are clues that it MAY be correct.

1920 US CENSUS

Family is living in Orleans County, Louisiana.
Head of family is "Cline" Cuccia, age 49 and a widow. Born in Italy and arrived about 1896. I'm thinking that the first name could be a misunderstanding, given an Italian accent, of Leoluchina. She is working as a cotton picker.
Oldest child is Carmelite - age 19 (could this be your "Catherine" born in 1900?) place of birth is Louisiana. She works in a bag factory
Frank, a son, is listed as age 16 (which would be right for your Frank) and his birth is listed as Louisiana (not Texas :? ) and he works as a Truck driver.
Now... listed also is daughter "Mary Michell" who is a widow as well, and her two children; Philip and Nick (first named after paternal grandfather, and second named after maternal grandfather, Nicola Cuccia? who were born in Texas. Mary's age is 37 - which would mean that she was born when her mother was 12... not impossible... There are other possibilities for this discrepancy in ages - that they are just inaccurate, etc.
You probably noticed that the other children are not listed. Possibly they are with relatives, in a home, etc.

That all being said, I would keep this record for the possibility.

They are toward the bottom of page
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SAME families in 1910 Census - on same street (Esata St.) in New Orleans.
Top of page - Cuccia, Caroline, widow, age 39
With children:
Antoinette, 19 (birth about 1891)
Joseph, 18 (birth about 1892)
Lena, 16 (birth about 1894)
Jacob, 13 (birth about 1897)
Carrie, 10 (Catherine? - birth about 1900)
Frank, 7 (birth about 1907)
BELOW them...
Mary Michel, age 23 (making birth in 1887)
Is is listed as married 6 years, with 2 children:
Philip, 5 - and Nicholas, 2

The older chldren, given their ages, would have probably moved out by the next census, so you would not see them.

Have you found a ship manfest? It appears that Nicola and Leoluchina may have arrived closer to 1886-88...

Census image - family at top
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Re: Need Help locating Family Censuses

Postby vj » 07 Jul 2012, 17:41

Great records T :D !
Here's another with a couple of relatives?
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probable 1930 census
http://imageshack.us/a/img850/9302/1930l.jpg

Home in 1930:
1434 Constance Street
New Orleans, Orleans, Louisiana


head Mick Cucia 60 IT
- immig 1900, Al
wife Laura Cucia 53 FL
son Frank Cucia 21 LA
daughter Stella Cucia 20 LA
daughter Marie Cucia 19 LA
son Manuel Cucia 16 LA
son Luker Cucia 12 LA
son Jack Cucia 7 LA

son-in-law Gennera Cucia(?) 28 IT
daughter Fanny Cucia(?) 26 LA

(brother-in-law?) Harold Cucia(?) 55 FL
- widower
(sister-in-law?) Hellen Cucia(?) 35 FL
- single

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Re: Need Help locating Family Censuses

Postby Tessa78 » 07 Jul 2012, 17:57

Hey Valarie! :-)

I think you have found the correct family! Great find! :D

Father would be Nick (written Mick)
Mother was Laura as poster stated...
Children's names fit!

Eureka! :D :D

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Re: Need Help locating Family Censuses

Postby vj » 07 Jul 2012, 18:10

Hey T :D !
I'm so glad I could help.
Interesting that Laura and two other folks have 'Florida' as a birth location.
So far no luck on a ship manifest...
Valarie

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Re: Need Help locating Family Censuses

Postby vj » 07 Jul 2012, 18:36

Obituary from Genealogy Bank (subscription)
http://imageshack.us/a/img840/4908/1947g.jpg

located by using the Louisiana Biography and Obituary Index
http://neworleanspubliclibrary.org/obits/obits.htm

Cuccia, Mrs. Laura
Death date: 1947-02-26
Age: 68 years Sex: F
Next of kin: Nick Cuccia (husband)
Obituary citation(s): Times-Picayune, 1947-02-27, Pg. 2 col. 6

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Postby vj » 07 Jul 2012, 18:50

Obituary from Genealogy Bank (subscription)
http://imageshack.us/a/img838/8742/1932h.jpg

located by using the Louisiana Biography and Obituary Index
http://neworleanspubliclibrary.org/obits/obits.htm

Cuccia, Nick
Death date: 1932-11-04
Age: 64 years
Sex: M
Obituary citation(s):
Times-Picayune, 1932-11-05, Pg. 2 col. 4
(actually 6 Nov)

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Re: Need Help locating Family Censuses

Postby Mardi » 07 Jul 2012, 19:04

Tessa78 and Valarie, you guys are just awesome...finally found the 1930 Census on the Family (that is them)....Nicholas passed away in 1932.
Tessa78, the Census on Caroline Cuccia, was and is very usefull, it open another door, hope it will help find the Ship manifest that Nick and Laura arrived on. Just still looking for their ship. Reason I said that it could be in the late 1800's is that Mary (1897)was born in Corleone and Catherine (1900), Louisiana
Thank you for all your help....everyone is amazing.
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Re: Need Help locating Family Censuses

Postby vj » 07 Jul 2012, 21:05

Mardi, making a little more progress
with information from Nicolo's 1932 obituary
Valarie

1903 New Orleans ship manifest
http://imageshack.us/a/img39/1300/1903x.jpg
lines 16-17

brother Biagio Cuccia 26 and Nicolo's daughter Maria Concetta Cuccia 6
destination Avoca LA (St. Mary Parish)

Name: Biagio Cuccia Arrival Date: 9 Oct 1903 Port of Arrival: New Orleans, Louisiana Age: 20 Birth Date: abt 1883 Gender: Male Port of Departure: Palermo, Italy Ship Name: Manilla Last Residence: Italy Race: Italian South (Italian) Friend's Name: Nicolo Cuccio

Name: Concetta Cuccia Arrival Date: 9 Oct 1903 Port of Arrival: New Orleans, Louisiana Age: 6 Birth Date: abt 1897 Gender: Female Port of Departure: Palermo, Italy Ship Name: Manilla Last Residence: Italy Race: Italian South (Italian) Friend's Name: Nicolo Cuccio

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Re: Need Help locating Family Censuses

Postby Mardi » 07 Jul 2012, 22:11

vj wrote:Hey T :D !
I'm so glad I could help.
Interesting that Laura and two other folks have 'Florida' as a birth location.
So far no luck on a ship manifest...
Valarie


Valarie, Notice that also on the Census, it stated that Laura was born in Flordia...she was born in Corleone, Sicily and married Nick June 13, 1896 Corleone, Province of Palermo, Sicily. Not quite sure who are Harold and Hellen were. Fannie was married to Frank Gennaro.

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Re: Need Help locating Family Censuses

Postby Tessa78 » 07 Jul 2012, 23:05

Mardi wrote:
vj wrote:Hey T :D !
I'm so glad I could help.
Interesting that Laura and two other folks have 'Florida' as a birth location.
So far no luck on a ship manifest...
Valarie


Valarie, Notice that also on the Census, it stated that Laura was born in Flordia...she was born in Corleone, Sicily and married Nick June 13, 1896 Corleone, Province of Palermo, Sicily. Not quite sure who are Harold and Hellen were. Fannie was married to Frank Gennaro.


Allowing for the fact that US Census records can be notoriously inaccurate :-)...
Looking at this census, my thoughts are that Harold is the widowed father of Frank Gennaro, and Helen is Frank's sister. The census taker didn't even put Frank's first name down... :-D
HOWEVER, I think Valarie has it right with Harold being LAURA's brother, and Helen is probable HIS daughter... :-)

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Re: Need Help locating Family Censuses

Postby Mardi » 08 Jul 2012, 00:28

vj wrote:Mardi, making a little more progress
with information from Nicolo's 1932 obituary
Valarie

1903 New Orleans ship manifest
http://imageshack.us/a/img39/1300/1903x.jpg
lines 16-17

brother Biagio Cuccia 26 and Nicolo's daughter Maria Concetta Cuccia 6
destination Avoca LA (St. Mary Parish)

Name: Biagio Cuccia Arrival Date: 9 Oct 1903 Port of Arrival: New Orleans, Louisiana Age: 20 Birth Date: abt 1883 Gender: Male Port of Departure: Palermo, Italy Ship Name: Manilla Last Residence: Italy Race: Italian South (Italian) Friend's Name: Nicolo Cuccio

Name: Concetta Cuccia Arrival Date: 9 Oct 1903 Port of Arrival: New Orleans, Louisiana Age: 6 Birth Date: abt 1897 Gender: Female Port of Departure: Palermo, Italy Ship Name: Manilla Last Residence: Italy Race: Italian South (Italian) Friend's Name: Nicolo Cuccio


Great Progress....Biaggio is Nicholas's brother and Concetta (Mary)is Nicholas and Laura's daughter. Was told that Nicholas and Laura came to the USA and left Mary behind in Corleone, then went back for her....but it looks like she came with her Uncle.

I looked at several of the pages of the Manilla, Passenger ships list, that they came on and notice there were several other Cuccia's on that same ship. Do you think there was a possibility that Laura (her mother) was also on that ship using her maiden name....Leoluchina [Laura] Calamusa....just a thought.
You don't know how greatful I am for all of your and Tessa's help, you both have been so kind.

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