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need info on these people.....please.

Postby moby02 » 21 Jan 2005, 13:14

i would muchly appreciate any info on any of these people....

Giuseppe Pantaleo Musso,born in 1878 in Chiusa Sclafani and died in 1946 in Thibadaux Louisiana.
He was married to Francis Castagnetta, daughter of Benito Castagnetta and Josephine DiMartini,
Giuseppe's parents were Francesco Musso and Maria DeGorgi.


Joseph Musso, born 1895 in Palazzolo, his parents were santo Musso and Paula fazzino.
He married Amalia Gozzo, who was born in 1898 in Solarino.
Her parents were Santo Gozzo and Maryann Scalora.


Pompeo Musso, born in Lavinasa, near Palermo.


any help would help alot thanks heaps
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Postby mfjp » 21 Jan 2005, 16:50

Hi Moby!

Found some information... unfortunately I cannot link to the actual ship record... as the film is inaccessible. :(

Note that this Giuseppe, also traveled with a Carmelo D'Giorgio (Giuseppe's mother was a DeGorgi)?

First Name: Guiseppe - born about 1877
Last Name: Musso
Ethnicity: Italy, Italyan South
Last Place of Residence: Chuisa, Sicily
Date of Arrival: July 01, 1913
Age at Arrival:  36y    Gender:  M    Marital Status:  M  
Ship of Travel: San Giorgio
Port of Departure: Palermo
Manifest Line Number: 0008

0007.  Gendus..., Pietro M 21y M Italy, Italyan South Chuisa, Sicily
***0008.  Musso, Guiseppe M 36y M Italy, Italyan South Chuisa, Sicily
0009.  Campagna, Guiseppe M 43y M Italy, Italyan South Chuisa, Sicily
0010.  Pristia, Leonardo M 44y M Italy, Italyan South Chuisa, Sicily
0011.  Macaluso, Guiseppe M 29y M Italy, Italyan South Chuisa, Sicily
0013.  Pollichino, Vincenzo M 29y M Italy, Italyan South Chuisa, Sicily
0014.  D'Giorgio, Carmelo M 28y S Italy, Italyan South Chuisa, Sicily
0015.  Marino, Michele M 26y M Italy, Italyan South Chuisa, Sicily

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Re: need info on these people.....please.

Postby mfjp » 21 Jan 2005, 16:58

Here is a manifest of a Francesco...
Occupation: Shoemaker
Traveled with a Giuseppe age 19 born about 1875, also shoemaker

Do you think that this could be father and son?

First Name: F'sco(headed for Louisiana)
Last Name: Musso Pauleleo
Ethnicity: Italy
Last Place of Residence:
Date of Arrival: December 04, 1894
Age at Arrival:  51y    Gender:  M    Marital Status:    
Ship of Travel: Italia
Port of Departure: Naples
Manifest Line Number: 0159

http://ellisisland.org/search/shipManif ... 857031061&

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Postby Essgee » 21 Jan 2005, 17:23

In 1920 census of Thibodaux, LaFourche, LA ED 45, page 8B

Musso, G.P., age 42, born Italy, arrived 1894, naturalized, 1909
-------, Frances, age 39, born Italy, arrived 1883, naturalized
-------, Francis, father, age 77, born Italy, arrived in 1874, applied
for papers.
-------, Frank, son, age 17, born LA
-------, Mary, daughter, age 18, born LA
-------, Josephine, daugter, age 12, born in Italy
-------, Lena, daughter, age 9, born LA
-------, Tonny, age 7, bornLA
-------, Chas(???Charles???), age 5, born LA
-------, Bennie, age 3, born LA
-------, Nick, age 1 1/2, born LA

Living nearby, ED 45, page 8A......
Musso, Nick, age 39, born Italy, arrived 1897, naturalized
-------, Veronica (?), age 39, born Italy, arrived 1895
-------, Frank, age 10, born LA
-------, Esfanio (???), age 8, born LA
-------, Tonny(???), age 5, born LA
-------, Maria, age 3, born LA
-------, Vincenzo, age 1, born LA
Names hard to read.........

No doubt these are brothers. Also indicates that more then one trip make back and forth to Italy. Father apparently died in LA and you might be able to find those records.

I will look for more info.
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Postby ptimber » 21 Jan 2005, 18:04

Dear Moby O2 I am very happy that yyou decided to shed your feigned ignorance of genealogy with words that implied limited education with more cogent information and words that were intelligible to people on this forum. I guess it is the weather in Oz that does it. Peter
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Postby Essgee » 21 Jan 2005, 18:27

Here is more:


1900 census of Thibodaux, ED 26, page 1B

Musso, Frank, born Jan 1843, age 57, married 27 years, arrived 1894, shoemaker
-----, Maria, born Dec 1853, age 46, married 27 years, had 8 children, 7 living, arrived 1899
-----, Tony, born Jan 1876, age 24, arrived 1899, shoemaker
-----, Joseph, born Sept 1877, age 22, arrived 1899, shoemaker
-----, Carlo, born May 1880, age 20, arrived 1899, shoemaker
-----, Nicholas, born Feb 1882, age 18, arrived 1899, shoemaker
-----, Mary, born Sept 1887, age 12, arrived 1899
-----, Peter, born Apr 1992, age 8, arrived 1899, also listed as shoemaker

The first child might have been a daughter so I cannot find her yet. However, by 1910, Frank Sr. is a widow. By 1930, Frank Sr. is apparently dead.

Giuseppe and Frances had one more son between 1920-1930 and that is Giuseppe P. Jr., born 1923 it looks like.

Charles lives next door in 1930 and Nick not far away....

Apparently these arrival dates in this census are probably more accurate since they are closer to the time they occurred. Need to check Ellis Island out for these dates............
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Re: need info on these people.....please.

Postby moby02 » 21 Jan 2005, 19:22

thanx heaps guys, this has helped alot.



oh and Peter,
i'll try to forget that i even read that message.
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Postby ptimber » 21 Jan 2005, 20:40

Obviously! Peter
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Postby moby02 » 22 Jan 2005, 16:05

i finally found where my dad is from and who his parents were.

my dad's name is michael musso born around 1956, parents were (or still are) Fillip and Jusipina (i think that's how you spell it) Musso, he has 2 brothers named Dominic and Vincenzo, and his grandmother (on mother's side) is Rosalia Tobia and they are from Palermo.

help would be great.
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Postby ptimber » 22 Jan 2005, 17:41

First of all it is Filippo and Giuseppina and there are more than 200
usso surnamed persons in theprovince of Palermo and since you say Palermo without disti nguishing between the city of palermo and the province of palermo pause is dictated until the actual town or village of origin is known if the city of Palermo is not the place origin. Most records are in the city town or village of origin save for several records at the provincial level. Peter
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Postby moby02 » 22 Jan 2005, 23:51

thanks,
so what's the difference between the 2 places?

dont worry i just found that out, anyway, i dont know if it was Palermo, because my mum said 'Paloma'(i dont know if thats a actual place)so i checked it out and came up with 'Palomandro, which led me to Lago(cosenza) i dont know what the cosenza means.

What makes this hard for me is that i cant read or speak italian, so any help would be good


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Postby ptimber » 23 Jan 2005, 08:07

Lago is a town/village in the province of Cosenza and the civil records for that place is on micorfilm at the nearest family history library of the mromon church to your home. The records are from 1809 to 1910. The cost is nom,inal and bring along a magnifying glass and you may wish to consider buying the book Discovering Your Italian Ancestors by Lynn nelson. Peter
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