Gabriel Pacione + Ida Pacione ( Bellarosa)

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Gabriel Pacione + Ida Pacione ( Bellarosa)

Postby Nicolina922 » 21 Aug 2012, 02:45

I am planning on creating a book on the ancestry of my grandmother, Flora D'Agata. However, I am having trouble finding details of her parents lives. I know that Gabriel was born around 1894 in Italy and died around 1980. His partner but never his wife was my grandmother's mother, Ida Bellarosa. She lived 1889-1973. I know that they emigrated to the USA -->Canada-->Baltimore-->Massachusetts. I mainly would like to know who their siblings/parents were. Thanks for the help!
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Re: Gabriel Pacione + Ida Pacione ( Bellarosa)

Postby vj » 21 Aug 2012, 20:11

Welcome to the Forum :D !
We would be happy to help.
Do you have any US records for Gabriel Pacione and Ida Bellarosa? Many US and Canadian records can contain clues to their town(s) of origin in Italy.
Since Italian records are kept at the comune (town) level, you would need to know where they were from to find records for their parents and siblings (unless they also emigrated to the US)
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Re: Gabriel Pacione + Ida Pacione ( Bellarosa)

Postby vj » 21 Aug 2012, 21:39

If these records belong to your g grandparents, Gabriel Pacione and Ida Bellarosa, you can order their SS Applications for $27 each.
The applications should include their parents' names and places of birth.

Name: Gabriele Pacione
SSN: 033-09-xxxx
Last Residence: 01841 Lawrence, Essex, Massachusetts
Born: 22 Jan 1894 Died: Oct 1980
State (Year) SSN issued: Massachusetts (Before 1951)

Name: Ida Pacione
SSN: 017-40-xxxx
Last Residence: 01843 Lawrence, Essex, Massachusetts
Born: 13 Jan 1888 Died: Sep 1973
State (Year) SSN issued: Massachusetts (1965-1966)


Social Security Application SS-5

Their SS#'s are available here if you don’t already have them:
http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Search/ ... _form=true

About the SS Application:
http://genealogy.about.com/od/online_re ... equest.htm
The SS-5, or Application for Social Security Number is a great resource for learning more about individuals who died after about 1960, and generally includes the following:
- Full name
- Full name at birth, including maiden name
- Present mailing address
- Age at last birthday
- Date of birth
- Place of birth
- Father's full name
- Mother's full name, including maiden name

- Sex
- Race as indicated by the applicant
- Whether the applicant ever applied for Social Security or Railroad Retirement before
- Current employer's name and address
- Date signed
- Applicant's signature


Order form SSA-711 (can be done online):
http://www.ssa.gov/foia/html/foia_guide.htm

Please Note:
... under our current policy, we do not release the parents’ names on an SS-5 application unless the parents' are proven deceased, have a birth date more than 120 years ago, or the number holder on the SS-5 is at least 100 years of age.
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Re: Gabriel Pacione + Ida Pacione ( Bellarosa)

Postby Nicolina922 » 21 Aug 2012, 21:51

I believe they are from Ofena, Italy. I found the ship manifest from Gabriel's trip to the U.S. from Italy. I then found his border crossing document coming from Canada back into the U.S.
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Re: Gabriel Pacione + Ida Pacione ( Bellarosa)

Postby vj » 21 Aug 2012, 23:01

Nicolina922 wrote:I believe they are from Ofena, Italy. I found the ship manifest from Gabriel's trip to the U.S. from Italy. I then found his border crossing document coming from Canada back into the U.S.


That will certainly help in your search thru Italian records :D

If you think your g grandparents may be from Ofena, your nearest Family History Center can order civil records for Ofena on microfilm.
The cost is about $6 mo (rent), you’ll need to go to the center to order & view them.

Family History Library Catalog:
https://www.familysearch.org/eng/library/fhlc/

Film notes for Ofena:
https://familysearch.org/eng/library/fh ... umns=*,0,0

Title: Registri dello stato civile di Ofena (L'Aquila), 1809-1910
Authors: Ofena (L'Aquila). Ufficio dello stato civile (Main Author)
Notes: Births, marriages, deaths, marriage documents, banns, miscellaneous documents.
Include indici annuali.
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And, just in case you aren’t familiar with the Family History Center & Italian records

FamilySearch Centers Home Page
Includes how to find your nearest local Family History Center
https://www.familysearch.org/locations

about Italian Records:
http://www.italygen.info/2010/09/italia ... ction.html

and Italian Records Extraction:
http://www.italiangenealogy.com/italian ... extraction
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Also, FamilySearch (free site) has civil records online for Ofena from 1809-1865, in Italian

"Italy, L'Aquila, Civil Registration (State Archive), 1809-1865"
https://www.familysearch.org/search/col ... on/1937372
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Re: Gabriel Pacione + Ida Pacione ( Bellarosa)

Postby vj » 21 Aug 2012, 23:44

for reference, 1917 Ship Manifest
http://imageshack.us/a/img96/9223/1917wd.jpg
next page
http://imageshack.us/a/img222/8412/1917b.jpg

Ship Name: Dante Alighieri
Arrival Date: 17 Jan 1917
Port of Departure: Naples, Italy
Port of Arrival: New York, New York

lines 20-22
Ida Bellawsa (Bellarosa) 29, abt 1888
- last residence Ofena
- leaving no one in Ofena
- destination Niagara Falls, NY
- joining husband Serafino Mascioletti
- born in Ofena
daughter Pierina Majcisleth (Mascioletti) 7, abt 1910
- has probable naturalization notation 1-225?07 1/31/38 No C/A
son Guido Majcisleth (Mascioletti) 7, abt 1910
- has probable naturalization notation 1-258878 1/11/40
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