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I am trying to put together a family tree. I have the names of my relatives, but cannot find them anywhere except for a 1930s census. I have searched through immigration records and cannot find anything. Their names are Pasqualina Urbano who married Domenico Savini (also called Anthony), her parents Jacob Urbano and Domenica Rappagnani, and his parents Vincenzo Savini (born approx. 1885) and Maria Fidale-who died young, second wife Virginia Savini. I know that they were farmers either in or near Abruzzi and Teramo, Domenica's father was a teacher. All immigrated to the US before or around 1912. My grandfather says he remembers hearing one of the female relatives talk about something being wrong with the ship on the voyage over, and never got on a ship again. He didn't know if something was actually wrong with the ship or if the seas were just really rough on the voyage.
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Welcome to the website. Do you have some more info like where they settled in the US? It would help to start there

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For reference... is this the correct 1930 Census for Vincenzo and Virginia Savini
Living in Pennsylvania?


1930 United States Federal Census about Vincenzo Savini
Name: Vincenzo Savini
Gender: Male
Birth Year: abt 1885
Birthplace: Italy
Race: White
Home in 1930: Chester, Delaware, Pennsylvania
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Marital Status: Married
Relation to Head of House: Head
Spouse's Name: Virginia Savini
Father's Birthplace: Italy
Mother's Birthplace: Italy
Occupation: laborer - paving company
Household Members:
Name Age
Vincenzo Savini 45
Virginia Savini 37
Samuel Savini 25
Sophie Savini 22
Anthony Savini 18
William Savini 14
Camilla Savini 13

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Thanks Tessa you are more fast.. me too found the 1930 census and it is the right family;
I found the immigration of Maria Fedele with children Silvino and Sofia and parents in law Domenico Antonio Savini and the wife Filomena, joining at Vincenzo Savini (son of Domenico Antonio) and the birth place is Montorio al Vomano (Teramo province)
New York Passenger Lists, 1820-1957 about Sofia Savini
Name: Sofia Savini
Arrival Date: 1 Jul 1909
Birth Year: abt 1908
Birth Location: Teramo
Birth Location Other: paternos ( maybe Paterno hamlet of Campli, Teramo, IT; however all family members coming from Montorio al Vomano..)

Age: 1 Years 2 Months
Gender: Female
Ethnicity/Race­/Nationality: Italian (South) (Italian)
Port of Departure: Napoli
Port of Arrival: New York, New York
Ship Name: Duca Di Genova

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U.S., World War I Draft Registration Cards, 1917-1918 about Vincenzo Savini
Name: Vincenzo Savini
City: Chester
County: Delaware
State: Pennsylvania
Birth Date: 20 May 1873
Race: White
FHL Roll Number: 1877836
Draft Board: 2

wife Virginia Savini
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Ciao, suanj! :-)

You found the place of birth! Fantastic!

Hugs to you...
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Thanks Tessa! Hugs to you also!
Vincenzo arrival:


First Name: Vencenso
Last Name: Savini
Ethnicity: Italy, Italian
Last Place of Residence: Moulorio, Ceramo (Montorio, Teramo= Montorio al Vomano)
Date of Arrival: Sep 27, 1907
Age at Arrival: 32y Gender: M Marital Status: M
Ship of Travel: Florida
Port of Departure: Naples
Manifest Line Number: 0020

wife Maria Felice DI FEDELE; joining at brother Camillo in NY..
http://www.ellisisland.org/search/shipM ... 0772%2ETIF
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again me; abt the URBANO in 1930 census :
1930 United States Federal Census about Pasqualine Uabano
Name: Pasqualine Uabano
[Pasqualine Urbano]
Gender: Female
Birth Year: abt 1919
Birthplace: Pennsylvania
Race: White
Home in 1930: Philadelphia, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania
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Marital Status: Single
Relation to Head of House: Daughter
Father's Name: Jacob Uabano
Father's Birthplace: Italy
Mother's Name: Marie Uabano

Mother's Birthplace: Italy
Occupation:

Education:

Military Service:

Rent/home value:

Age at first marriage:

Parents' birthplace:

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Household Members:
Name Age
Jacob Uabano 43
Marie Uabano 39
Anna Uabano 14
Pasqualine Uabano 11
Philomuns Uabano 9
Daniel Uabano 3

It could be your Pasqualina???

name: Giacomo Urbano
titles & terms:
event: Census
event year: 1940
event place: Ward 36, Philadelphia, Philadelphia City, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, United States
gender: Male
age: 53
marital status: Married
race (original): White
race (standardized): White
relationship to head of household (original): Head
relationship to head of household (standardized): Head
birthplace: Italy
estimated birth year: 1887
residence in 1935: Same House
enumeration district number: 51-1328
family number: 136
sheet number and letter: 8B
line number: 63
nara publication number: T627
nara roll number: 3729
digital folder number: 005456834
image number: 00527
Household Gender Age Birthplace
head Giacomo Urbano M 53 Italy
wife Minnie Urbano F 49 Italy
daughter Philamena Urbano F 15 Pennsylvania
son Daniel Urbano M 13 Pennsylvania


U.S. World War II Draft Registration Cards, 1942 about Giacomo Urbano
Name: Giacomo Urbano
Birth Date: 21 Feb 1888
Birth Place: Basano, Italy
Residence: Philadelphia, Pennsylvania

wife Domenica Urbano

Philadelphia Passenger Lists, 1800-1945 about Giacoma Urbani
Name: Giacoma Urbani
[Giacomo Urbani]
Arrival Date: 8 Mar 1914
Age: 26 Years
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1888
Gender: Male
Ethnic Background: Italian (South) (Italian)
Port of Departure: Naples, Italy
Ship Name: Stampalia
Port of Arrival: Philadelphia, Pennsylvania
Friend's Name: Sante Currigiano
Last Residence: Italy
Birthplace: Basciano, Italy( Basciano, Teramo, IT)
Microfilm Roll Number: T840_124


travelling with Domenica wife; father Gaetano (father of Giacomo)in Basciano; joining at brother in law Sante Turrigiano (?) in Phila, PA.

the above records could be abt your Urbano line?

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All of these names seem to be correct. I don't have a lot of information. I will give this info to my grandfather and see what he says.
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This does seem to be correct. How did you find all this? I have been searching for months for this information.
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Two FREE sites are very helpful :-)

www.familysearch.org
www.ellisisland.org

Others are subscription (fee) sites such as Ancestry.com

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I have been searching on all three sites and found nothing...I don't know how you do it.
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If you are still available, I could use more help. One of the people that we found Immigration records for, I cannot track after she came to the US. I know Maria Savini (also known as Maria Felice Di Fedele) died in Rhode Island between 1911 and 1916, but I think it was in 1913. I am trying to get as much information as I can about this family because in my searching for other relatives, I am getting possible hits with conflicting information (like birth years that are almost a decade apart)and I am not sure whether the information I have is correct or the new information is correct. Thank you so much for any information you can give me.
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Hi, on the ship's manifest Maria was abt 20 old(? maybe 30 old)
Maria line 14
Silvino line 15
Sofia line 16
pag 1 http://www.ellisisland.org/EIFile/popup ... &line=0012
pag 2 http://www.ellisisland.org/EIFile/popup ... &line=0012
seeming born in Montorio al Vomano and no in Paterno as by this transcription:
New York Passenger Lists, 1820-1957 about Sofia Savini
Name: Sofia Savini
Arrival Date: 1 Jul 1909
Birth Year: abt 1908
Birth Location: Teramo
Birth Location Other: paternos ( maybe Paterno hamlet of Campli, Teramo, IT; however all family members coming from Montorio al Vomano..)
I found:
Web: Rhode Island, Find A Grave Index, 1663-2013 about Maria Savini
Name: Maria Savini
Birth Date: 1888
Age at Death: 25
Death Date: 24 May 1913
Burial Place: Lincoln, Providence County, Rhode Island, USA


parents: Joseph De Felix,​ Carolina De Felix (De Felix= De Felice)
I believe that Maria was born around 1879...
http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cg ... d=80815857&


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the 1910 census:
1910 United States Federal Census about Vincenzo Sanini
Name: Vincenzo Sanini
[Vincenzo Sosine]
[Vincenzo Sasim]
Age in 1910: 35
Birth Year: abt 1875
Birthplace: Italy
Home in 1910: Lincoln, Providence, Rhode Island
Race: White
Gender: Male
Immigration Year: 1906
Relation to Head of House: Head
Marital Status: Married
Spouse's Name: Pel**Cite Sanini
Father's Name: Domizene Sanini
Father's Birthplace: Italy
Mother's Name: Phelomena Sanini
Mother's Birthplace: Italy
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Household Members:
Name Age
Vincenzo Sanini 35
Pel**Cite Sanini 30 ( DE FELICE SAVINI)
Salnini Sanini 6 ( Silvino Savini)
Sophia Sanini 2
Domizene Sanini 66
Phelomena Sanini 66


so Maria was born around 1879 because she was 30 old in 1909 arrival year...

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