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Armand and Jeanne/Joan (tossi) Lagneau

Postby 120camden » 04 Sep 2012, 04:04

I can find record in 1920 of them coming to USA on Ellis Island records. They were in their late 40's when they arrived. So it seems I could find something. I have searched every which way through Familysearch.org to come up with any other information. Armand supposedly Belgian. Jeanne/Joan Italian.
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Re: Armand and Jeanne/Joan (tossi) Lagneau

Postby Tessa78 » 04 Sep 2012, 04:08

The couple in Indiana in 1921...


U.S. City Directories, 1821-1989 (Beta) about Armand Lagneau
Name: Armand Lagneau
Gender: M (Male)
Residence Year: 1921
Street Address: 1021 S Ohio
Residence Place: Kokomo, Indiana
Occupation: Shop Cleaner
Spouse: Giovannia Lagneau
Publication Title: Kokomo, Indiana, City Directory, 1921


In the 1938 City Directory Joan is listed as widow of Armand...
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Took a look at the manifest...

Joanie Lagneau (wife of Armand) has a place of birth listed as "Solbirona, Italy" (don't know this name)
She is leaving HER brother "Deseret Deanchamp" in Paris ?
Going to Kokomo to Armand's son Vincente La Biancha ?
Where does the TOSSI surname come in?


EDITED to add:

Located an additional ship manifest for Joan Tosi Lagneau in 1929.

Sailing from Buenos Aires, Argentina on Sept 5, and arriving NY Sept 24 on SS American Legion
Her last permanent residence is listed as Kokomo, Indiana, but her travel visa issued in Buenos Aires.
Her place of birth is listed as SARTIRANO, Italy.
Possbilities...
Sartirana Briantea, comune of Merate - province: Lecco - region: Lombardy
Sartirana Lomellina, comune of Sartirana Lomellina - province: Pavia - region: Lombardy
Sartorona, comune of Pieve Porto Morone - province: Pavia - region: Lombardy
Sarturano, comune of Agazzano - province: Piacenza - region: Emilia Romagna

She is listed as married, so Armand may not have died until after 1929.

She is on line 2...

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Re: Armand and Jeanne/Joan (tossi) Lagneau

Postby suanj » 04 Sep 2012, 10:49

Hi Tessa great find!
Sartirana Lomellina, comune of Sartirana Lomellina - province: Pavia - region: Lombardy

seeming the right birthplace and the right surname spelling is TOSI
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Re: Armand and Jeanne/Joan (tossi) Lagneau

Postby Tessa78 » 04 Sep 2012, 16:27

suanj wrote:Hi Tessa great find!
Sartirana Lomellina, comune of Sartirana Lomellina - province: Pavia - region: Lombardy

seeming the right birthplace and the right surname spelling is TOSI
Hugs,
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Thank you for the affirmation, suanj! :-)
Big hugs to you!

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Re: Armand and Jeanne/Joan (tossi) Lagneau

Postby vj » 04 Sep 2012, 16:43

Great research T :D & suanj :D !
for reference, possible 1930 census
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http://imageshack.us/a/img341/6076/1930d.jpg
living with daughter Matilda (born abt 1893 in Argentina)

Home in 1930:
712 South Jay Street
Kokomo, Howard, Indiana

Samuel Shorteno (Sciortino) 42 Matilda Shorteno 37 Armondo Shorteno 8 Yolanda R Shorteno 6
mother-in-law Joan Loqneau 56, abt 1874 IT

also this post:
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Re: Armand and Jeanne/Joan (tossi) Lagneau

Postby vj » 04 Sep 2012, 17:09

Armand Lagneau abt 1862-1925

from the Kokomo Public Library
http://www.kokomo.lib.in.us/glhs/obits1 ... index.html

Howard County, Indiana Deaths 1922-1935
Logneau Armand 63, 26 Aug 1925
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Armand Lagneau's obituary from Newspaper Archive (subscription)
Kokomo Tribune
27 Aug 1925

Armand Lagneau
note: wife's name was 'Geneva'
http://imageshack.us/a/img89/4029/1925kz.jpg
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for reference, the obituary mentioned in the other post
Kokomo Tribune
26 Nov 1945

Mrs Jean Lagneau
http://imageshack.us/a/img96/7593/1945u.jpg
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Re: Armand and Jeanne/Joan (tossi) Lagneau

Postby suanj » 04 Sep 2012, 17:27

Oh Valarie, it is wonderful!
Tessa made the search, just I wrote my suggestion...
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Re: Armand and Jeanne/Joan (tossi) Lagneau

Postby vj » 04 Sep 2012, 17:30

Hey suanj :D !
It is nice to find obituaries online - they certainly can contain valuable clues.
Thank you & a Big Hug! Valarie

What would Geneva's (Jeanne/Jean/Joan) name have been on her birth act?
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Re: Armand and Jeanne/Joan (tossi) Lagneau

Postby 120camden » 04 Sep 2012, 18:39

Just found all this information you both have uncovered. I am so happy! You are so awesome!!! Here is a background with a few questions if you are interested.

Armand and Jean/Joan (Tosi) Langeau - USA 1920

Matilda - Daughter born Nov 1981 in Buenos Aires. I have written reference to Balcarce. Find a Matilde Tossi, 4 yo in 1895 census. Listed other Tossi's..cousins? siblings? No mention in census of Lagneau. Was Matilda born Tossi in Argentina? Grew up in France with Lagneau/Tossi. Adopted?

Matiilda Lagneau- Vincenzo Lo Biancho travels in 1920 to US to Kokomo. Lists Bruno Antoinne as relative. Matilda has son, Armondo Giovanni LoBianco Sep 1921. Vincenzo listed as father. Tried looking for marriage cert. online. No luck. Lagneau's came over 1920 list Vincenzo as son-in-law.

Matilda marries Salvatore (sam) Sciortino, Kokomo, who adopts Armando at 18mos. We have adoption papers registered with Buenos Aires Consulate in Chicago states "Vincenzo deserted her". Armando chages name to Armand J. White after HS graduation.

We have always been curious about the Argentina connection. We have Armand passport 4-5 yrs old. Family lore has him traveling back to Argentina. Would fit with info you found of Joan Lagneau in 1929. Where did you locate that passage info. Would Armando Sciortino be listed. Matilda Sciortino? My mother, Yolanda Sciortino was born in 1924 but we don ever remember he saying she went there.
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Re: Armand and Jeanne/Joan (tossi) Lagneau

Postby Tessa78 » 04 Sep 2012, 21:54

120camden wrote:Just found all this information you both have uncovered. I am so happy! You are so awesome!!! Here is a background with a few questions if you are interested.

Armand and Jean/Joan (Tosi) Langeau - USA 1920

Matilda - Daughter born Nov 1981 in Buenos Aires. I have written reference to Balcarce. Find a Matilde Tossi, 4 yo in 1895 census. Listed other Tossi's..cousins? siblings? No mention in census of Lagneau. Was Matilda born Tossi in Argentina? Grew up in France with Lagneau/Tossi. Adopted?

Matiilda Lagneau- Vincenzo Lo Biancho travels in 1920 to US to Kokomo. Lists Bruno Antoinne as relative. Matilda has son, Armondo Giovanni LoBianco Sep 1921. Vincenzo listed as father. Tried looking for marriage cert. online. No luck. Lagneau's came over 1920 list Vincenzo as son-in-law.

Matilda marries Salvatore (sam) Sciortino, Kokomo, who adopts Armando at 18mos. We have adoption papers registered with Buenos Aires Consulate in Chicago states "Vincenzo deserted her". Armando chages name to Armand J. White after HS graduation.

We have always been curious about the Argentina connection. We have Armand passport 4-5 yrs old. Family lore has him traveling back to Argentina. Would fit with info you found of Joan Lagneau in 1929. Where did you locate that passage info. Would Armando Sciortino be listed. Matilda Sciortino? My mother, Yolanda Sciortino was born in 1924 but we don ever remember he saying she went there.
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The image I posted above for the 1929 manifest for Joan was from Ancestry.com
I did not see any Sciortino passengers on that page, but maybe they are somewhere else on the manifest? :-)

Hey Valarie and suanj!!!

What a team we make! :D :D :D

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Re: Armand and Jeanne/Joan (tossi) Lagneau

Postby vj » 04 Sep 2012, 22:55

Tessa78 wrote:...
Hey Valarie and suanj!!!
What a team we make! :D :D :D
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Hey T :D !
We all do seem to help each other fill in the blanks :wink:
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