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Need help finding parents name in Italy!!!

Postby Mardi » 17 Sep 2012, 10:41

Looking for the parents of Maria Ruffino who married Leoluca [Luke] Trombatore (possible birth year 1820), June 29, 1845, Corleone, Province of Palermo, Sicily

I have a list of the children they had together that were born in Corleone, Province of Palermo, Sicily. Any help will be appreciated. Thank you.
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Re: Need help finding parents name in Italy!!!

Postby erudita74 » 17 Sep 2012, 12:55

at http://www.familysearch.org, there are online baptism records for Corleone which begin as early as 1531. You should be able to find the record there which should have the parents' names on it. There are also marriage records there which should have the parents' names. His parents were deceased Vincenzo and living Caterina Piraneo and her parents were Placido and deceased ? (still trying to decipher the mother's name)

Their Latin marriage record is image 212 of 443
Italy, Palermo, Diocesi d...Church Records, 1531-1998
Corleone
San Martino
Matrimoni 1832-1856


His baptism record is image 124 of 406-Corleone San Martino Battesimi 1819-1827-Oct 17, 1820
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Re: Need help finding parents name in Italy!!!

Postby erudita74 » 17 Sep 2012, 14:26

Looking again at the Latin marriage record, I now think her mother's first name is Rosalia. I do not see Maria's baptism record among the ones for 1820. I think her mother's surname is Matera, but that would need to be confirmed by the information in her baptism record, once it is located.
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Re: Need help finding parents name in Italy!!!

Postby adelfio » 17 Sep 2012, 14:49

erudita74 wrote:Looking again at the Latin marriage record, I now think her mother's first name is Rosalia. I do not see Maria's baptism record among the ones for 1820. I think her mother's surname is Matera, but that would need to be confirmed by the information in her baptism record, once it is located.

Hi Erudita great finds on the records!!!
I think the mothers name is Rosalia Vutera

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Re: Need help finding parents name in Italy!!!

Postby erudita74 » 17 Sep 2012, 14:55

Thanks for the suggestion, Marty. The baptism records are clearly written, so finding the one for Maria Ruffino will hopefully confirm the mother's surname.
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Re: Need help finding parents name in Italy!!!

Postby adelfio » 17 Sep 2012, 15:17

1827 Dec in Coreleone Placido Ruffino son of Antonio Ruffino and
Lucia di Carlo married to Rosalia Vutera daughter of Andrea Vutera and Maria Russo
Italy, Palermo, Diocesi d...Church Records, 1531-1998
Corleone
San Martino
Matrimoni 1798-1832
Image 414 of 592
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EDITED FROM INFO FROM ERUDITA
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Re: Need help finding parents name in Italy!!!

Postby erudita74 » 17 Sep 2012, 15:18

Great find, Marty.
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Re: Need help finding parents name in Italy!!!

Postby adelfio » 17 Sep 2012, 15:42

Baptism of Maria Ruffino 1822 August Maria Ruffino daughter of Placido Ruffino and Rosalia Vutera
Italy, Palermo, Diocesi d...Church Records, 1531-1998
Corleone
San Martino
Battesimi 1819-1827
Image pg 190 of 406
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Re: Need help finding parents name in Italy!!!

Postby erudita74 » 17 Sep 2012, 15:48

adelfio wrote:1827 Dec in Coreleone Placido Ruffino son of Antonio Ruffino and
Luisa Carto married to Rosalia Vutera daughter of Andrea Vutera and Maria Russo
Italy, Palermo, Diocesi d...Church Records, 1531-1998
Corleone
San Martino
Matrimoni 1798-1832
Image 414 of 592
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Luisa's surname was "di Carlo" currently "Di Carlo" not Carto
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Re: Need help finding parents name in Italy!!!

Postby adelfio » 17 Sep 2012, 16:28

1783 Jan 12th in Corleone marriage of Antonio Ruffino son of Vincenzo Ruffino and Antonia Mondallo married Lucia di Carlo daughter of Caster???? di Carlo and Catherine Palermo
Italy, Palermo, Diocesi d...Church Records, 1531-1998
Corleone
San Martino
Matrimoni 1764-1782
Image of pg 282 of 287
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Re: Need help finding parents name in Italy!!!

Postby Tessa78 » 17 Sep 2012, 16:30

Hey, Marty! :-D

Great records!!!!

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Re: Need help finding parents name in Italy!!!

Postby erudita74 » 17 Sep 2012, 16:47

adelfio wrote:1783 Jan 12th in Corleone marriage of Antonio Ruffino son of Vincenzo Ruffino and Antonia Mondallo married Lucia di Carlo daughter of Caster???? di Carlo and Catherine Palermo
Italy, Palermo, Diocesi d...Church Records, 1531-1998
Corleone
San Martino
Matrimoni 1764-1782
Image of pg 282 of 287
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The first name of Lucia di Carlo's father was Castrenze (in Italian)
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Re: Need help finding parents name in Italy!!!

Postby adelfio » 17 Sep 2012, 17:35

I think you might be right with the original thought Erudita
Dont know if the priest made a typo error in the name Vutera/Butera
POSSIBLE MARRIAGE RECORD
1799 Oct 20 in Corleone marriage of Andrea Butera/Vutera son of Joseph Butera and Anna Friia married to Maria Russo daughter of Antonio Russo and Rosalia La Sala
Italy, Palermo, Diocesi d...Church Records, 1531-1998
Corleone
San Martino
Matrimoni 1798-1832
Image pg 61 of 592
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Re: Need help finding parents name in Italy!!!

Postby erudita74 » 17 Sep 2012, 17:53

I don't know about the "b" vs the "v" in Latin (too many years since I've studied that language), but I have read that in Sicilian, Butera may be Vutera. So it may not actually be a typo in the records.
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Re: Need help finding parents name in Italy!!!

Postby adelfio » 17 Sep 2012, 19:30

Heres the info so far with a little more researching you should be able to get more dates and info at familysearch.org
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