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Researching Trupiano Family

Postby saucybgl » 21 Sep 2012, 05:24

Hello, my name is Krista, and I've just started researching my family history. After speaking with my Grandmother, Josephine Verli (formerly Josephine Trupiano), I've been able to find out my Great Grandfather's name was Michael Trupiano, born February 1890, and I also know that his father was Rocco Tropiani, born August 1859.

I was able to confirm all of the above using the 1900 U.S. Federal Census Record.

Also, from this record I then found out that Michael's sister is Annie Tropiani, born August 1884. Also that Rocco's wife was Nunzia Tropiani, born July 1869.

From the 1900 census, I know that Rocco, Nunzia and Annie all came from Italy. Michael appears to be the first child born in the United States.

I think the, New York Passenger List 1820-1857 for the ship "Caledonia" might be the ship that Rocco traveled on based upon his age on the ship record. It also says the trip traveled from Napoli. I'm not sure if this is the right record because Nunzia and Annie were not with him on the ship.

If anyone can help me learn more it would be great!
Thank you,
Krista
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Re: Researching Trupiano Family

Postby Tessa78 » 21 Sep 2012, 16:12

saucybgl wrote:Hello, my name is Krista, and I've just started researching my family history. After speaking with my Grandmother, Josephine Verli (formerly Josephine Trupiano), I've been able to find out my Great Grandfather's name was Michael Trupiano, born February 1890, and I also know that his father was Rocco Tropiani, born August 1859.

I was able to confirm all of the above using the 1900 U.S. Federal Census Record.

Also, from this record I then found out that Michael's sister is Annie Tropiani, born August 1884. Also that Rocco's wife was Nunzia Tropiani, born July 1869.

From the 1900 census, I know that Rocco, Nunzia and Annie all came from Italy. Michael appears to be the first child born in the United States.

I think the, New York Passenger List 1820-1857 for the ship "Caledonia" might be the ship that Rocco traveled on based upon his age on the ship record. It also says the trip traveled from Napoli. I'm not sure if this is the right record because Nunzia and Annie were not with him on the ship.

If anyone can help me learn more it would be great!
Thank you,
Krista


Hello Krista! :D

Those early manifests do not hold much information... but I think I have found a possibility for your ancestors' arrival manifest. :-)

Arriving on 3 June 1886 at New York on SS OLYMPIA
R. Tropiano, age 28 (this would put his birth about 1859-60)
A. Tropiano, age 21 (This could be Nunzia - first name actually Annunziata)
A. Tropiano, age 9 mos (Probably Anna, born about 1884-5)
Although they are all listed as Males, I believe that this is the family...
However, Italian women usually travel under their maiden name :?

Sailing from Naples.
Click once to enlarge and again to magnify
Lines 309, 310, 311
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From the NYC Birth Index... POSSIBLE record for Michael Trupiano.
Though the birth date is slightly different from the 1900 Census...

Trupiano Michael Oct 2 1889 Cert# 19878 S Manhattan

You can request this from NYC
http://www.nyc.gov/html/records/html/vi ... irth.shtml

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Re: Researching Trupiano Family

Postby saucybgl » 24 Sep 2012, 18:46

Thank you for finding this information, Tessa! How were you able to determine this ships name, I don't see anything on the attachment except a list of names.

Would there be any reason for them to have incorrectly listed the women as men?

I wish I knew more information that I could share, that would help make this research easier.

I've also been very interested in learning more about my Grandfather's lineage. His name was John Verali. I don't know much about his history either. Should I start another thread for him or just continue here?

Thanks again for your help so far!
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Re: Researching Trupiano Family

Postby Tessa78 » 24 Sep 2012, 19:17

saucybgl wrote:Thank you for finding this information, Tessa! How were you able to determine this ships name, I don't see anything on the attachment except a list of names.

Would there be any reason for them to have incorrectly listed the women as men? Human error in a monotonous routine? :shock:

I wish I knew more information that I could share, that would help make this research easier.

I've also been very interested in learning more about my Grandfather's lineage. His name was John Verali. I don't know much about his history either. Should I start another thread for him or just continue here?

Thanks again for your help so far!


The image that is posted above was viewed on Ancestry (paid subscription) which gives the arrival date and ship name in the heading of the page (not the image) :-)

Sending for the birth record of Michael will provide you with Nunzia/Annunziata's maiden name which will give you another way to research their arrival :-)


As for your Grandfather's ancestors... I would definitely start a new post. More volunteers here at the forum will see!

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Re: Researching Trupiano Family

Postby vj » 24 Sep 2012, 21:45

Hey Krista :D and T :D
Just for everyone's reference, here's the 1900 census that you mentioned
Have you found all of your US census, military and naturalization records?
Thank you,
Valarie

Trupiano Family

1900 census
http://imageshack.us/a/img600/3723/1900hm.jpg
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http://imageshack.us/a/img407/5449/1900b.jpg

Home in 1900:
16 Havermeyer Street, rents
Brooklyn Ward 14, Kings, New York

head Roces (Rocco) Tropiani (Trupiano) 40, born Aug 1859 IT
- married 11yrs, abt 1889
- immig 1889, in US 11 yrs, Al (alien)
- dealer
wife Nonzia (Nunzia) Tropiani 34, born Jul 1869 IT
- 5 children
- immig 1889, in US 11 yrs, Al (alien)
daughter Annie Tropiani 15, born Aug 1884 IT
- immig 1889, in US 11 yrs, Al (alien)
son Michael Tropiani 10, born, born Feb 1890 NY
daughter Fannie Tropiani 9, born, born Apr 1891 NY
daughter Mamie Tripiani 3, born Oct 1896 NY
daughter Rosie Tripiani 1, born Jan 1899 NY
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Re: Researching Trupiano Family

Postby vj » 24 Sep 2012, 21:54

Tessa78 wrote:...From the NYC Birth Index... POSSIBLE record for Michael Trupiano.
Though the birth date is slightly different from the 1900 Census...

Trupiano Michael Oct 2 1889 Cert# 19878 S Manhattan

You can request this from NYC
http://www.nyc.gov/html/records/html/vi ... irth.shtml

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Great record T :D !

there are family pages on ancestry with a bit more info:

Hojnacki Family Tree
owner: MichaelHojnacki, East Meadow, New York

Rocco Trupiano
spouse: Nunziata Gallo
son: Michael Trupiano
Birth 2 Oct 1889 in Brooklyn, Kings, New York, USA
Death 30 Jan 1961 in Elmont, Nassau, New York, USA
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Re: Researching Trupiano Family

Postby vj » 24 Sep 2012, 23:01

Trupiano Family
not much info, but neat to have
from ancestry. com

1892 NY census
http://imageshack.us/a/img811/4497/1892ny.jpg

Residence Place:
Brooklyn, Kings Ward: Ward 14 Election District: 20

(head) Rocco Trubano 30, abt 1862 IT
- laborer
- alien
(wife) Anncia (Annunziata) Trubano 24, abt 1868 IT
- housekeeper
- alien
(daughter) Anita Trubano 6, abt 1886 IT
- alien
(son) Mike Trubano 2, abt 1890 US
- citizen
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Re: Researching Trupiano Family

Postby vj » 24 Sep 2012, 23:21

Rocco Trupiano

from Italian Genealogical Group (good source for NYC record indexes)
http://www.italiangen.org/default.htm
the same form T :D linked earlier can be used for Death Certificates
http://www.nyc.gov/html/records/html/vi ... eath.shtml

Rocco Trupiano's Death Certificate may include his parents' names and place of birth
- it depended upon what the informant knew or could remember

Surname Given Name Age Month Day Year Certificate Number County Born FHL roll
number

Tropiano Rocco 71 y Jun 8 1936 12815 (1936) Kings 1864 - 1865 2080436
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Re: Researching Trupiano Family

Postby Tessa78 » 24 Sep 2012, 23:38

Hey Valarie! :D

Great finds! Thanks!

But it looks like the 1886 manifest I posted may not be them (unless the census data is inaccurate - as we've seen many times before! :-) )
The birthdates for Rocco and Nunzia are definitely off in the 1892 record...

That death record for Rocco HOPEFULLY holds some parent names/place of birth for Krista!

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Re: Researching Trupiano Family

Postby vj » 24 Sep 2012, 23:50

Hey T! :D
I'm having trouble finding 1920 and 1925 census records
- hoping to find relatives from Italy :wink:
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Trupiano Family

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This just might be the family in 1910!
Roccotrapiano = Rocco Trupiano
The children's names appear to be correct

1910 census
http://imageshack.us/a/img59/2088/1910lk.jpg

Home in 1910:
185 Bayard Street, rents
Brooklyn Ward 17, Kings, New York

head Frank(??) Roccotrapiano (Rocco Trupiano) 48, abt 1862 IT
- married 20 years, abt 1890
- immig 1887, Al
- junk peddler
wife Mary(??) Roccotrapiano (Nunzia Trupiano) 42, abt 1868 IT
- 9 children
- immig 1887
son Michael Roccotrapiano (Trupiano) 19, abt 1891 NY
- helper, bookbinder
daughter Mamie Roccotrapiano 13, abt 1897 NY
daughter Rose Roccotrapiano 12, abt 1898 NY
daughter Millie Roccotrapiano 8, abt 1902 NY
daughter Jennie Roccotrapiano 7, abt 1903 NY
son Thomas Roccotrapiano 5, abt 1905 NY
son Tony Roccotrapiano 1 6/12, abt 1908 NY

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same address in 1915 as in 1910

1915 NY census record
http://imageshack.us/a/img820/9862/1915i.jpg

Residence Place:
185 Bayard Street
New York, Kings

Rocco Temprano 50 Nunzia Temprano 40
Ralphael (Michael) Temprano 23 Fannie Temprano 23 Marrie Temprano 18 Rosie Temprano 16 Camille Temprano 14 Jennie Temprano 12 Thomas Temprano 10 Tony Temprano 6
son-in-law Potong (Anthony) Russo 27
daughter-in-law Mary Temprano 22
this should be Michael's wife Frances Buino, married 1914
grandson Recco Trupiano 4/12
this should be Michael's son Rocco

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Michael's marriage record
Trupiano Michael Feb 2 1914 1331 (1914) Kings bride 1613587
Buino Frances Feb 2 1914 1331 (1914) Kings groom 1613587
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Re: Researching Trupiano Family

Postby vj » 25 Sep 2012, 01:20

Trupiano Family

This census indicates that Rocco may have filed his first papers for naturalization

1920 census
Rocco and family, Michael and family, daughter Fannie (Russo) and family, daughter Mary (Guida) and husband
http://imageshack.us/a/img841/3060/1920m.jpg

Home in 1920:
185 Bayard Street
Brooklyn Assembly District 13, Kings, New York

Rocco Trippiano 55
Mary Trippiano 50

Antony Trippiano 11
Thomas Trippiano 14
Lillie Trippiano 18
Jennie Trippiano 17

Michael Trippiano 30
Frances Trippiano 27

Rocco Trippiano 5 11/12
Mathew Trippiano 4 6/12
Nancy Trippiano 3 7/12

Antony Russo 30
Fannie Russo 29
Cono Russo 4
Loretta Russo 10

Palmerino Guida 27
Mary Guida 23
nephew Rocco De Candis 11
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Rocco and Nunzia's daughter's marriage records:

Surname Given Name Month of Marriage Day of Marriage Year of Marriage Certificate Number County FHL roll number

Russo Antonio Sep 10 1908 6871 (1908) Kings 1613289
Trupiano Filomena Sep 10 1908 6871 (1908) Kings 1613289

Guida Palmerino Apr 8 1915 3604 (1915) Kings 1613738
Trufiano Mary Apr 8 1915 3604 (1915) Kings 1613738
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Re: Researching Trupiano Family

Postby Tessa78 » 25 Sep 2012, 01:33

They are all still at 185 Bayard in 1925 :-)

Rocco's surname spelled TIMPIANO :-)
Michael added a son, Joseph 2
Nephew living with Guida family is not listed.

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Re: Researching Trupiano Family

Postby vj » 25 Sep 2012, 01:44

Hey T :D !
Great record
Looks like Rocco hasn't naturalized
No luck on any relatives from out of town visiting :wink:
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Re: Researching Trupiano Family

Postby saucybgl » 25 Sep 2012, 03:39

Wow! I don't know what to say! Thank you all so much!! You've given me so much information to digest. Each of you are wonderful :D

I'm going to show all of this information to my Grandmother and see what she can help me confirm.

I'm sorry that I can't tell you right now which of these are true and false for my family, but I'll do what I can to find out which one's are my family.

I can't thank you all enough, I'll post again as soon as I have a chance to talk to my grandmother. I'll confirm what I can for you :-)
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Re: Researching Trupiano Family

Postby Tessa78 » 25 Sep 2012, 04:32

We're glad to have helped! :-)

Keep us posted.

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