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Ship Manifest Help?

Postby Boberek18 » 05 Oct 2012, 01:55

Hi. My GG Grandfather was born in 1885 in Italy. When he was about two in
1887 his father left him and his mother and moved to NYC. He got a job and got
married and had more kids. When my GG Grandfather was about five he and his
mother came to America in about 1890. His mother found work and they lived in
an apartment until her death in about 1892- 1895, so he was put in an orphanage
until about 1900 when his father took him out to work and make money for the
family. My GG Grandfathers name was Carmine Morro and his mothers name was
Teresa. I think his dads name was Anthony but I'm really not sure. It's a
hunch. I don't know where he was born or if Morro was his fathers name or his
mothers maidan name. After his mom died he was in an orphanage. Probably
either an italian or catholic one until he was about 14. If you can help me
find him or his parents. I found him in the 1910 census but before that I am
clueless. His wife's name was Filomena Digianni who was born in 1891. Maybe an orphanage or a census from 1900 anything
:D :D :D :D :D :D Thanks for the help
Erik
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Re: Ship Manifest Help?

Postby Tessa78 » 05 Oct 2012, 02:51

Hello Eric :-)

From the free site http://www.italiangen.org

Possible marriage listing in NYC Marriage Index For Carmine and Filomena
Should have names of parents... or maybe some clue :-)

Surname Given Name Month of Marriage Day Year County Certificate #[/b]

Marra Carmine Sep 6 1908 Kings 6978
DiGianni Filomena Sep 6 1908 6978 Kings


You can send for this record...
http://www.nyc.gov/html/records/html/vi ... iage.shtml

AND...
POSSIBLE death record listing for Teresa Marra?

Marra Teresa 58 y Aug 29 1892 #31896 Manhattan

To request:
http://www.nyc.gov/html/records/html/vi ... eath.shtml
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Re: Ship Manifest Help?

Postby Tessa78 » 05 Oct 2012, 03:04

POSSIBLE Naturalization Card for Carmine Morra :-)

Living in Brooklyn. The date of birth is off - June 22, 1880 (not 1885)
Date of arrival is listed as 1896... have to find a manifest...

HOWEVER, the witness to the naturalization is ANTONIO MORRA, at same address...
--- possibly his father???? ----

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For reference... Carmine and Filomena in 1920?

name: Carmine Morra
residence: , Kings, New York
estimated birth year: 1886
age: 34
birthplace: Italy
relationship to head of household: Self
gender: Male
race: White
marital status: Married
father's birthplace: Italy
mother's birthplace: Italy
film number: 1821166
digital folder number: 4313514
image number: 00230
sheet number: 9
Household Gender Age Birthplace
self Carmine Morra M 34y Italy
wife Philomene Morra F 30y Italy
son Anthony Morra M 9y New York
dau Tessie Morra F 7y New York
dau Angelina Morra F 4y9m New York
son Joe Morra M 3y3m New York
son James Morra M 2y New York
dau Lucy Morra F 4m New York

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Re: Ship Manifest Help?

Postby erudita74 » 05 Oct 2012, 03:11

For reference-to avoid duplication of efforts:

topic26622.html

topic26621.html
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Re: Ship Manifest Help?

Postby Tessa78 » 05 Oct 2012, 03:24

POSSIBLE arrival in 1891 of Teresa Marra?
However, Carmine is not on the same page of this manifest...


New York Passenger Lists, 1820-1957 about Teresa Marra
Name: Teresa Marra
Arrival Date: 30 Nov 1891
Birth Year: abt 1837
Age: 54
Gender: Female
Ethnicity/Race-
/Nationality: Italian
Place of Origin: Italy
Port of departure: Le Havre, France
Destination: New York
Port of arrival: New York
Port Arrival State: New York
Port Arrival Country: United States
Ship Name: La Champagne

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Re: Ship Manifest Help?

Postby Tessa78 » 05 Oct 2012, 03:32

erudita74 wrote:For reference-to avoid duplication of efforts:

topic26622.html

topic26621.html



THANKS!!! :-)

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Re: Ship Manifest Help?

Postby Tessa78 » 05 Oct 2012, 03:52

Boberek18 wrote:Hi. My GG Grandfather was born in 1885 in Italy. When he was about two in
1887 his father left him and his mother and moved to NYC. He got a job and got
married and had more kids. When my GG Grandfather was about five he and his
mother came to America in about 1890.
His mother found work and they lived in
an apartment until her death in about 1892- 1895, so he was put in an orphanage
until about 1900 when his father took him out to work and make money for the
family. My GG Grandfathers name was Carmine Morro and his mothers name was
Teresa. I think his dads name was Anthony but I'm really not sure. It's a
hunch. I don't know where he was born or if Morro was his fathers name or his
mothers maidan name. After his mom died he was in an orphanage. Probably
either an italian or catholic one until he was about 14. If you can help me
find him or his parents. I found him in the 1910 census but before that I am
clueless. His wife's name was Filomena Digianni who was born in 1891. Maybe an orphanage or a census from 1900 anything
:D :D :D :D :D :D Thanks for the help
Erik



Erik,
Also found this POSSIBLE manifest listing for Carmine, but cannot find an image of it.
Arrival at CASTLE GARDEN ...
Age 4 - Arrival date of 1 July 1889 on SS Alesia

http://castlegarden.org/quick_search_de ... id=9567842

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