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Michele Perrone - Comune Told Me No Birth Record

Postby JeffPalumbo » 06 Oct 2012, 00:56

Hello,

My father and I are trying to find a birth certificate for my great grandfather - Michele Perrone. I have his death record so I know his exact birth date (October 29th, 1894) and parents names from that. The census' only say "Italy" for place of birth and the immigration manifest looks as if it says birth place of Apricena, but the handwriting is impossible to make out clearly. (It also says last residence of Apricena but I understand that doesn't mean birth place).

I wrote to the comune of Apricena and they said that they have no record of anyone by that name with the 4 year period that they checked (1892-1896).

I am wondering what other ways I can find out his town of birth? Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Thank you!!
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Re: Michele Perrone - Comune Told Me No Birth Record

Postby Tessa78 » 06 Oct 2012, 17:13

Hello JeffPalumbo, and welcome! :-)

Can you post that manifest for us to view, or give us the ship name and date so we can check it?

As for the death record information on your GGF... we have found that death records can be quite inaccurate since the information is given by survivors who may not have accurate knowledge :-)

Can you tell us where he lived in the US?
His spouse's name? Names of children?
Maybe we can find more US records to help in the search?

FYI - In the Italian Phone Book there are 11 listings for PERRONE in Apricena...
http://www.paginebianche.it/persone?qs= ... v=Apricena

If you should choose to write to one or more of these "potential" relatives, here is help with letters in Italian:
http://www.angelfire.com/ok3/pearlsofwi ... #relatives

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Re: Michele Perrone - Comune Told Me No Birth Record

Postby erudita74 » 06 Oct 2012, 18:11

Is this him in the Social Security index? If so, you can order his application for his social security card which would have his town of birth on it.

first name: Michael
middle name:
last name: Perrone
name suffix:
birth date: 29 October 1894
social security number: 199-01-0477
place of issuance: Pennsylvania
last residence: Bucks, Pennsylvania
zip code of last residence: 19007
death date: March 1984
estimated age at death: 90

http://www.ssa.gov/foia/html/foia_guide.htm#Requests

There seems to be a temporary shutdown of this online service though.

Do you have his World War I draft registration card? That may have his town of birth in Italy on it or, did he naturalize, as naturalization papers may have a town of birth on it.
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Re: Michele Perrone - Comune Told Me No Birth Record

Postby suanj » 06 Oct 2012, 21:51

I am born in Apricena... and in effects the surname Perrone is a surname of Apricena.. I remember I Perrone bakery in the 1960s...
most probably the Commune no found the birth record because some data are incorrect..
by ship's manifest ( if right) seeming that Michele was born abt 1892:
New York Passenger Lists, 1820-1957 about Michele Perrone
Name: Michele Perrone
Arrival Date: 20 Feb 1913
Birth Year: abt 1892
Birth Location: Foggio
Birth Location Other: apniena
(Apricena)
Age: 21
Gender: Male
Ethnicity/Race­/Nationality: Italian (South) (Italian)
Port of departure: Naples, Italy
Port of arrival: New York, New York
Ship Name: Prinzess Irene
wife Consiglia Forte Perrone in Apricena, joining at brother in law Luigi Forte in Hamilton , Ontario
the above record could be abt your Michele Perrone?
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Re: Michele Perrone - Comune Told Me No Birth Record

Postby suanj » 06 Oct 2012, 21:54

second trip:
New York Passenger Lists, 1820-1957 about Michele Perrone
Name: Michele Perrone
Arrival Date: 21 Feb 1917
Birth Year: abt 1892
Birth Location: Italy
Birth Location Other: apriceno
Age: 25
Gender: Male
Ethnicity/Race­/Nationality: Italian (South) (Italian)
Port of departure: Naples, Italy
Port of arrival: New York, New York
Ship Name: Patria

same wife ... already in foreign country ( Toronto, Canada)from 1912 to 1914 and joining at friend Giacomo Forte in Philadelphia, PA USA


....the birthyear again 1892..
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