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Scorzelli Lineage

Postby nisc1005 » 09 Oct 2012, 23:57

I am trying to find information on my great great grandfather Giacindi Scorzelli. I know his son, my great grandfather Julius Ceasar Scorzelli, is the one who came to america in 1909, or thereabouts. But his father and beyond is a mystery to me. If anyone has any information, I'd be most greatful.

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Re: Scorzelli Lineage

Postby Tessa78 » 10 Oct 2012, 15:02

Hello Nicholas :-D !

For reference... is this your GGF Julius and his family? 1930 Census


1930 United States Federal Census about Julius Scorzelli
Name: Julius Scorzelli
Gender: Male
Birth Year: abt 1884
Birthplace: Italy
Race: White
Home in 1930: Manhattan, New York, New York
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Marital Status: Married
Immigration Year: 1906
Relation to Head of House: Head
Spouse's Name: Antoinette Scorzelli
Father's Birthplace: Italy
Mother's Birthplace: Italy
Occupation: carpenter
Household Members:
Name Age
Julius Scorzelli 46
Antoinette Scorzelli 40
George Scorzelli 22
Tessie Scorzelli 17
Annie Scorzelli 15
Carmella Scorzelli 13
Cosimo Scorzelli 11
Frank Scorzelli 9
Josephine Scorzelli 7
Domenick Scorzelli 5

From the NYC Marriage Index... TWO records for the same couple :-)

Scorzelli Guilio Nov 7 1907 Manhattan 28931
Palera Antonetta Nov 7 1907 Manhattan 28931

Scorzelli Guilio Nov 17 1907 Manhattan 30484
Palera Antonetta Nov 17 1907 Manhattan 30484

The record may provide a place of birth for Giulio which you will need to find information on his father and grandfather... :-)
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Re: Scorzelli Lineage

Postby suanj » 10 Oct 2012, 15:53

Hi, I found:

U.S., World War II Draft Registration Cards, 1942 about Julius Scorzelli
Name: Julius Scorzelli
Birth Date: 12 Jan 1886
Birth Place: Italy
Residence: Kings, New York
Race: White

wife Antonette...

also abt the immigration a possible record:
First Name: Guiliano
Last Name: Scozelli
Ethnicity: Italy, Italian South
Last Place of Residence: Roccadaspide
Date of Arrival: Jan 13, 1905
Age at Arrival: 18y Gender: M Marital Status: S
Ship of Travel: Lombardia
Port of Departure: Napoli
Manifest Line Number: 0012

http://www.ellisisland.org/EIFile/popup ... &line=0012
joining at Francesco, brother in NY

it could be your Julius?
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Re: Scorzelli Lineage

Postby suanj » 10 Oct 2012, 16:11

1910 census:
name: Julius Scorzelli
birthplace: Italy
relationship to head of household: Self
residence: Manhattan Ward 12, New York, New York
marital status: Married
race : White
gender: Male
immigration year: 1904
father's birthplace: Italy
mother's birthplace: Italy
family number: 328
page number: 21
Household Gender Age Birthplace

self Julius Scorzelli M 25y Italy imm. 1904 PA
wife Nettie Scorzelli F 19y New York
son George Scorzelli M 1y 2m New York
bro John Scorzelli M 29y Italy imm.1903 alien
bro Charles Scorzelli M 36y Italy imm. 1906


1920 census:
name: Julius Scorzelli
residence: , New York, New York
estimated birth year: 1884
age: 36
birthplace: Italy
relationship to head of household: Self
gender: Male
race: White
marital status: Married
father's birthplace: Italy
mother's birthplace: Italy
film number: 1821220
digital folder number: 4314013
image number: 00139
sheet number: 19
Household Gender Age Birthplace
self Julius Scorzelli M 36y Italy
wife Antonetti Scorzelli F 29y New York
son Geoge Scorzelli M 11y New York
dau Tessie Scorzelli F 6y New York
dau Anna Scorzelli F 5y New York
dau Carmela Scorzelli F 3y3m New York
son Gussie Scorzelli M 1y3m New York


If it isseeming that he had almost 3 brothers... I know not why it is a discrepancy abt him birthyear...
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Re: Scorzelli Lineage

Postby Tessa78 » 11 Oct 2012, 00:49

Since suanj :-D has identified the last place of residence (and possibly the place of birth) as Roccadaspide, Province of Salerno, Campania Region... you may wish to write directly to the comune to request a birth record for Giacinto Scorzelli :-)

Address:
Ufficio dello Stato Civile
Via Giuliani
84069 Roccadaspide (SA)
ITALY


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