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Trying to find Info on Maria Rosa Valluzzi

Postby jvalluzz » 05 Apr 2013, 00:09

I'm trying to find information about my Great Grandmother, Maria Rosa Valluzzi, born in Pietrapertosa, Potenza, Basilicata, Italy around 1855.

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Re: Trying to find Info on Maria Rosa Valluzzi

Postby Tessa78 » 05 Apr 2013, 02:36

jvalluzz wrote:I'm trying to find information about my Great Grandmother, Maria Rosa Valluzzi, born in Pietrapertosa, Potenza, Basilicata, Italy around 1855.

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Jim


Hi Jim :D

Want to be sure you are giving us your GGM's MAIDEN surname.
Records online for Pietrapertosa begin around 1866. So I thought I would check marriages. :-)
I have checked the marriage indexes from 1874 through 1880 (her age being about 19 - 25), and so far have not found her. I'll keep looking.

If not, can you tell us a bit more information about her - husband's name, children's names. Did she immigrate? If yes, when?

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Re: Trying to find Info on Maria Rosa Valluzzi

Postby jvalluzz » 05 Apr 2013, 03:02

She married a man that left her, I don't know his name. She then had four children out of wedlock with a man named Vincenzo Brenna and the children kept her maiden name, Valluzzi. The children's names were Vito Rocco, Giuseppe, Maria Rosa and my Grandfather Giambattista. Maria Carmela immigrated to America in 1908.
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Re: Trying to find Info on Maria Rosa Valluzzi

Postby Tessa78 » 05 Apr 2013, 03:08

jvalluzz wrote:She married a man that left her, I don't know his name. She then had four children out of wedlock with a man named Vincenzo Brenna and the children kept her maiden name, Valluzzi. The children's names were Vito Rocco, Giuseppe, Maria Rosa and my Grandfather Giambattista. Maria Carmela immigrated to America in 1908.


Thank you for the quick update! :D
Were the children born in Pietrapertosa?
For your GF Giambattista, do you know his approx. year of birth? birthplace?

Could this be the death record of your GGM in Illinois in 1915?

Cook County, Illinois, Deaths Index, 1878-1922 about Maria Rosa Valluzzo
Name: Maria Rosa Valluzzo
[Maria Rosa Luzzo]
Birth Date: abt 1855
Birth Place: Italy
Death Date: 25 Dec 1915
Death Place: Chicago, Cook, Illinois
Burial Date: 28 Dec 1915
Cemetery Name: Mt Carmel
Death Age: 60
Occupation: House Keeping
Race: White
Marital Status: Widowed
Gender: Female
Street Address: 838 Miller St Ward 19-5
Father Name: Joe Luzzo
Father Birth Place: Italy
Mother Name: Carmel
Mother Birth Place: Italy
FHL Film Number: 1287512


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Re: Trying to find Info on Maria Rosa Valluzzi

Postby Tessa78 » 05 Apr 2013, 04:09

Looking at the arrival manifest for Maria Rosa Valluzzi in 1908 (traveling with her daughter-in-law, Maria Papa, and grandson), all three list their last residence as Atella.

On the arrival manifest for Giambattista Valluzzi in 1907, he also lists his last residence as Atella, AND in the last column he lists his place of birth as ATELLA

This could be the place of birth for Maria Rosa Valluzzi's children? I am not finding them in the birth records for Pietrapertosa :?

What records/source are you using for Maria Rosa's place of birth being Pietrapertosa?

You may want to write to Atella for birth records. They may provide you with more information about Maria Rosa...

Address:
Ufficio dello Stato Civile
Piazza Matteotti, 3
85020 Atella (PZ)
ITALY


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http://www.angelfire.com/ok3/pearlsofwi ... tter3.html
http://www.angelfire.com/ok3/pearlsofwi ... talrecords

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Re: Trying to find Info on Maria Rosa Valluzzi

Postby jvalluzz » 05 Apr 2013, 07:03

The information I have for Giambattista Valluzzi shows him being born in 1885 and dying in 1937 at the age of 52. I believe this also matches the ships manifest.

Some of the Chicago, Cook County, Illinois birth records of Giambattista's children list his place of birth as being Atella, Potenza, Basilicata, Italy. I also have had contact with two different cousins in Italy that say that Maria Rosa's children were born in Atella. One still lives there. It was one of these cousins that said Maria Rosa was born in Pietrapertosa.

One of these cousin's is actually the wife of my cousin who's family moved away from Atella many generations ago and is just repeating family stories they heard and remember. The cousin that still lives in Atella is 70 years old, does not speak English, I don't speak Italian, and doesn't appear to use her computer that often so communications with both parties is infrequent and difficult.

The Cook County Death record listed is for my GGM.
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Re: Trying to find Info on Maria Rosa Valluzzi

Postby Tessa78 » 05 Apr 2013, 17:32

Then you might want to write directly to Pietrapertosa for Maria Rosa Valluzzi's birth record :-)

Address:
Ufficio dello Stato Civile
Via della Speranza
85010 Pietrapertosa (PZ)
ITALY


Use the same links for help with letters of request that are in the earlier post.

As to the relative in Atella...
Here is a possible listing - a Maria Rosetta Valluzzi ??
http://www.paginebianche.it/ricerca?qs= ... &dv=Atella

Help with letters to relatives...
http://www.angelfire.com/ok3/pearlsofwi ... etter.html
http://www.angelfire.com/ok3/pearlsofwi ... #relatives

If/when you get a response to your inquiries... post it here and someone will help you to translate :-)

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Re: Trying to find Info on Maria Rosa Valluzzi

Postby jvalluzz » 05 Apr 2013, 20:17

Maria Rosetta Valluzzi, that's my cousin in Atella. She remembers her grandfather talking about his brother, my grandfather and has invited me to come visit her :). I'm thinking about taking a conversational Italian class.

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Re: Trying to find Info on Maria Rosa Valluzzi

Postby adelfio » 06 Apr 2013, 15:11

If yoursure she was born in Pietrapertosa I would get the films records of stato civile di Pietrapertosa (Potenza), 1809-1910 from Family History Library for her birth act there is a film Nati, pubblicazioni, matrimoni, morti, diversi, allegati 1852-1857 which would give you 5 years cushion The film is FHL INTL Film #2097492

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