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Searching for; Deleppo, Del Cioppo, Rossi

Postby mimishell » 21 Apr 2013, 18:50

Hello,
I am trying to find my Italian family roots on two fronts; my paternal grandfather's family, and his first wife, my paternal grandmother's family. I would be grateful for any help on either front. Here's what I know so far...

I think my grandfather, Ralph Deleppo may have actually been, Raffaele DelCioppo who arrived in America via Ellis Island when he was 11 in 1900. If this is correct his parents were Felice and Michelina DelCioppo who listed their last place of residence as Campobapo(Campbasso?). I would like any information on the family history.

One of Ralph/Raffaele's siblings was Mary Deleppo who I think may have actually been Maria DelCioppo. I mention Mary/Maria because she may be key in finding my paternal grandmother's family. Mary/Maria married Patsy/Pasquale Rossi (they had two children, Melba and Urico) and Ralph/Raffaele married Patsy's sister Filomena (my grandmother)so... a brother and sister married a sister and brother. Sadly, Filomena died around 1927. I would like to know who her parents were, if she had any more siblings,and where in Italy she was from, anything.

I would be thankful for any information on either family.
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Re: Searching for; Deleppo, Del Cioppo, Rossi

Postby Tessa78 » 22 Apr 2013, 22:13

Hi mimishell! Welcome to the forum...

Can I ask a few questions of you first?

You mention that you think Ralph arrived in 1900 at age 11. Does this mean that you are certain that his year of birth is about 1889?

Were he and Filomena married in US?

In looking for US records (so we can work backwards to possible origin of birth) - I have Ralph Deleppo residing in Waterbury, Connecticut with wife Grace in 1940 - Would this be your GF?

If the birth date of 1889 is correct... here is another POSSIBILITY for the arrival for Ralph/Raffaele in 1892 at age 3 :-) Notice the spelling of the surname.
I will try to find an image of the manifest to identify with whom he is traveling.

Given Name: Raff
Surname: Dellioppo
Last Place of Residence:
Event Date: 15 Jun 1892
Age: 3y 2m
Nationality: Italy
Departure Port: Naples
Arrival Port: New York
Gender: Male
Marital Status:
Citizenship Status:
Ship Name: California

Have you seen this WWII Draft Registration Card? Lists his name as Frank Ralph Deleppo. Could be that his given name is Francesco/Frank, and Ralph/Raffaele was his middle name...
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/T ... 1140593490

Frank Ralph Deleppo, "United States, World War II Draft Registration Cards, 1942"
Name: Frank Ralph Deleppo
Event Type: Draft Registration
Event Date: 1942
Event Place: Waterbury, New Haven, Connecticut
Gender: Male
Birth Date: 05 Oct 1888
Affiliate Publication Title: World War II Draft Cards (4th Registration) for the State of Connecticut
Affiliate Publication Number: M1962
Affiliate ARC Identifier: 2555449
GS Film number: 2283207
Digital Folder Number: 004135818
Image Number: 01566

You stated...
I think my grandfather, Ralph Deleppo may have actually been, Raffaele DelCioppo who arrived in America via Ellis Island when he was 11 in 1900. If this is correct his parents were Felice and Michelina DelCioppo who listed their last place of residence as Campobapo(Campbasso?). I would like any information on the family history.


In the 1930 US Census, in Waterbury, Connecticut, Ralph is a widow with 3 sons and his mother, Michellina Delleppo, age 65, living with him...
He also gives his immigration year as 1897, as does his mother.


Ralph Delleppo, "United States Census, 1930"
Name: Ralph Delleppo
Event Type: Census
Event Date: 1930
Event Place: Waterbury, New Haven, Connecticut
Gender: Male
Age: 42
Marital Status: Widowed
Race: White
Birthplace: Italy
Birth Year (Estimated): 1888
Immigration Year: 1897
Relationship to Head of Household: Head
Father's Birthplace: Italy
Mother's Birthplace: Italy
District: 0212
Household ID: 208
Sheet Number and Letter: 9A
Line Number: 9
Affiliate Publication Number: T626, roll 279
GS Film number: 2340014
Digital Folder Number: 4531883
Image Number: 00364
Household Gender Age Birthplace
Head Ralph Delleppo M 42 Italy
Son William Delleppo M 15 Connecticut
Son Phillip Delleppo M 12 Connecticut
Son Dante Delleppo M 9 Connecticut
Mother Michelina Delleppo F 65 Italy

In 1917, he completed the Connecticut Military Census as FRANK DELLEPPO
Nice physical description here, but no specific place of birth...
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He is also listed on his WWI Draft Registration as FRANK DEL CIOPPO (alias DELLEPPO)
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Re: Searching for; Deleppo, Del Cioppo, Rossi

Postby mimishell » 24 Apr 2013, 04:54

Hi Tessa78,
Wow! I'll try to answer in the same order, here goes...
Yes, I think Ralph's birth date was about 1889.
Yes, I think he and Filomena married in USA, but I don't know for sure.
Yes, Ralph lived in Waterbury with Grace his second wife.

I looked at the Ellis Island manifest for the 1892 arrival you found, to me the handwritten manifest looked like "DelCioppo", who is the adult "wife" named Eufemia? Does this mean that Ralph came to USA in 1892, went back to Italy then came back to USA in 1900? Could Eufemia be his mother instead of Michelina?
Re: the WWII Draft card, I do remember my uncle saying something about Ralph using the name Frank...but I don't know why, but this must be him.
Re:1930 US Census, yes this must be him, but I never saw Deleppo spelled with 2 ll's before.
Re: 1917 Connecticut Military Census, I guess this could be Ralph...there's "Frank" and 2 ll's in Deleppo again.(P.S. there are Xrated things at the bottom of this attachment)
Re: WWI Draft, I guess this could be him,I'm not really sure, do you think it's him?
Thanks,
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Re: Searching for; Deleppo, Del Cioppo, Rossi

Postby suanj » 25 Apr 2013, 11:56

I found a Raffaele Del Cioppo coming from Campobasso, father Felice Del Cioppo and mother Michelina Spetrino, and sisters of Raffaele: Incoronata, Maria, Elvira, and brother Antonio, arrived in USA on 15 Feb 1900
and joining at Alessandro del Cioppo, brother of Felice in New York:

First Name: Raffack (Raffaele)
Last Name: Del Cioppo
Ethnicity: Italy, Italian
Last Place of Residence: Campobapo (Campobasso)
Date of Arrival: Feb 15, 1900
Age at Arrival: 11 Gender: M Marital Status: S
Ship of Travel: Bolivia
Port of Departure: Naples
Manifest Line Number: 0007

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Re: Searching for; Deleppo, Del Cioppo, Rossi

Postby suanj » 25 Apr 2013, 12:02

U.S. City Directories, 1821-1989 about Felice Delcioppo
Name: Felice Delcioppo
Residence Year: 1902
Street Address: 465 E Main
Residence Place: Waterbury, Connecticut
Occupation: Shoemaker
Publication Title: Waterbury, Connecticut, City Directory, 1902

1910 census:
1910 United States Federal Census about Felix Delappo
Name: Felix Delappo
[Felix Delappe]
[Felix Delapps]
Age in 1910: 54
Birth Year: 1856
Birthplace: Italy
Home in 1910: Waterbury Ward 1, New Haven, Connecticut
Race: White
Gender: Male
Immigration Year: 1899
[1890]
Relation to Head of House: Head
Marital Status: Married
Spouse's Name: Margaret Delappo
Father's Birthplace: Italy
Mother's Birthplace: Italy
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Felix Delappo 54
Margaret Delappo 43
[40]
Frank Delappo 23
Mary Delappo 18
[19]
E?Ista Delappo 17
Antonio Delappo 16
Alfredo Delappo 5


1920 census:
1920 United States Federal Census about Felice Deleppo
Name: Felice Deleppo
Age: 67
Birth Year: abt 1853
Birthplace: Italy
Home in 1920: Waterbury Ward 1, New Haven, Connecticut
Race: White
Gender: Male
Immigration Year: 1910
Relation to Head of House: Head
Marital Status: Married
Spouse's Name: Margaret Deleppo
Father's Birthplace: Italy
Mother's Birthplace: Italy
Home owned: Rent
Able to Read: No
Able to Write: No
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Felice Deleppo 67
Margaret Deleppo 55
Anthoney Deleppo 19
Alfred Deleppo 15
[13]
Patsie Rossi 32
Mary Rossi 28
Urico Rossi 3
Melba Rossi 1


Felice died in 1921
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Re: Searching for; Deleppo, Del Cioppo, Rossi

Postby suanj » 25 Apr 2013, 12:12

Ralph brother:
Connecticut, Military Census, 1917 about Anthony Delappo
Name: Anthony Delappo
Birth Year: abt 1898
Age: 19
City: Waterbury

italian, no naturalized...
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Re: Searching for; Deleppo, Del Cioppo, Rossi

Postby mimishell » 27 Apr 2013, 14:16

Suanj, thank you. All the variations on not just the last name (I've counted 7) but on the first names as well, it's a lot to take in. The biggest mystery is; did Ralph come to America in 1892 and if yes, who is Eufemia? It makes me wonder if Michelina was his biological mother or his stepmother? I will try to contact my Uncle to find out about the name "Frank". Also,why so many last names? It makes me a little sad to think he may not have had a "real" last name. Any thoughts?
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Re: Searching for; Deleppo, Del Cioppo, Rossi

Postby suanj » 27 Apr 2013, 18:36

Simply: Del Cioppo is a popular surname in Campobasso area.
YOUR grandfather was the son of Felice Del Cioppo and Michelina Spetrino; by ship's manifest they never in USA before, so:
Given Name: Raff
Surname: Dellioppo
Last Place of Residence:
Event Date: 15 Jun 1892
Age: 3y 2m
Nationality: Italy
Departure Port: Naples
Arrival Port: New York
Gender: Male
Marital Status:
Citizenship Status:
Ship Name: California
it is another Raffaele Del Cioppo son of Eufemia.
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Re: Searching for; Deleppo, Del Cioppo, Rossi

Postby Tessa78 » 27 Apr 2013, 20:25

suanj wrote:Simply: Del Cioppo is a popular surname in Campobasso area.
YOUR grandfather was the son of Felice Del Cioppo and Michelina Spetrino; by ship's manifest they never in USA before, so:
Given Name: Raff
Surname: Dellioppo
Last Place of Residence:
Event Date: 15 Jun 1892
Age: 3y 2m
Nationality: Italy
Departure Port: Naples
Arrival Port: New York
Gender: Male
Marital Status:
Citizenship Status:
Ship Name: California
it is another Raffaele Del Cioppo son of Eufemia.
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I agree, suanj :D ! The 1892 manifest is a different Raffaele.

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Re: Searching for; Deleppo, Del Cioppo, Rossi

Postby suanj » 27 Apr 2013, 22:45

Tanks Tessa!
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Re: Searching for; Deleppo, Del Cioppo, Rossi

Postby mimishell » 28 Apr 2013, 22:01

Hi Suanj and Tessa,

Thank you both so much. Raff not being the same person as my GF Raffaele does simplify things. And it now seems quite certain that Felice and Michelina Del Cioppo are my GGF and GGM. My question is; where do I go from here? Is a search for family history in Italy possible? What about possible lost cousins even here in USA from Felice's brother Alessandro? Did he and his children keep the name DelCioppo? I have sooooo many questions I really don't know which direction to look for first!?! Any help would be appreciated.
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Re: Searching for; Deleppo, Del Cioppo, Rossi

Postby suanj » 28 Apr 2013, 22:56

you can find all civil records by LDS microfilms:
Registri dello stato civile di Campobasso (Campobasso), 1809-1910
Births, marriages, banns, marriage documents, foundling births, deaths, miscellaneous documents, citizenship records.
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Alessandro Del Cioppo arrival:
New York, Passenger Lists, 1820-1957 about Alexandro Del Cioppo
Name: Alexandro Del Cioppo
Arrival Date: 18 Nov 1898
Birth Date: abt 1858
Age: 40
Gender: Male
Ethnicity/ Nationality: Italian
Port of Departure: Naples, Italy
Port of Arrival: New York, New York
Ship Name: Alsatia


with wife Angelamaria Di Zinno, and children: Nicola Del Cioppo age 13,Giuseppe Del Cioppo age 9, Carmela Del Cioppo age 4, Antonio Del Cioppo age 0 (infant), joining at Giovanni Del Cioppo son of Alessandro.

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Re: Searching for; Deleppo, Del Cioppo, Rossi

Postby suanj » 28 Apr 2013, 23:13

I believe that this record is abt Nicola Del Cioppo son of Alessandro but no sure:
Nicola Del Cioppo, "Connecticut, Deaths and Burials, 1772-1934"
Name: Nicola Del Cioppo
Gender: Female
Burial Date:
Burial Place:
Death Date: 05 Apr 1905
Death Place:
Age: 20
Birth Date: 1885
Birthplace:
Occupation:
Race:
Marital Status:
Spouse's Name:
Father's Name:
Father's Birthplace:
Mother's Name:
Mother's Birthplace:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: B03304-5
System Origin: Connecticut-EASy
GS Film number: 3114
Reference ID:

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Re: Searching for; Deleppo, Del Cioppo, Rossi

Postby JohnArmellino » 16 May 2013, 04:15

@ mimishell

We may have corresponded before, so forgive me if you already have the following info:

Felice del Cioppo, age 34, widower of Incoronata Ricciuti, son of Domenico del Cioppo and Lorita Silva Palladino, and Maria Michelina Spetrino, age 20, daughter of Raffaele Spetrino and Anna Maria Cresenza Iammarino, were married on 27 FEB 1886 in Campobasso, Campobasso, Molise, Regno d'Italia. Source: Campobasso (Campobasso), Ufficio dello Stato Civile, Registri dello Stato Civile, 1809-1910 (Salt Lake City : Filmed by the Genealogical Society of Utah, 1983-1990), FHL INTL Film 1733313/MATRIMONI 1886/Numero 23, 27 FEB 1886.

Felice del Cioppo is my 4C3R, which I believe makes us 7th cousins. Our common ancestors are Michele Gregorio di Soccio (born 11 MAR 1704) and Elisabetta Romano (born 09 JUN 1708). If you would like more info, write me at armellino@yahoo.com.
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Re: Searching for; Deleppo, Del Cioppo, Rossi

Postby suanj » 16 May 2013, 06:10

Great find John!
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