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Catello,Palerino

Postby marymary52 » 17 May 2013, 06:19

I am trying to find out how the Palerino
s and The Palermo's are related to the Scognamillo (Scognamiglio in Italy) Family. I am Scognamillo ..Catello Palerino in household of Annielo Palerino, "United States Census, 1920"
Name:
Catello Palerino
Event Type:

Event Year:
1920
Event Place:
, Kings, New York
Gender:
Male
Age:
17
Marital Status:
Single
Race:
White
Birthplace:
New York
Birth Year (Estimated):
1903
Relationship to Head of Household:
Son
Father's Birthplace:
Italy
Mother's Birthplace:
Italy
Household ID:
62
Sheet Number:
4
GS Film number:
1821147
Digital Folder Number:
4313495
Image Number:
00879
 
Household
Gender
Age
Birthplace
SELF
Annielo Palerino
M
42y
Italy
WIFE
Louisa Palerino
F
38y
Italy
SON
Nunzio Palerino
M
19y
New York
SON
Catello Palerino
M
17y
New York
SON
Tony Palerino
M
15y
New York
SON
Raphael Palermo
M
12y
New York
DAU
Annie Palermo
F
8y
New York
SELF
Louis Scognamillo
M
43y
Italy
WIFE
Annie Scognamillo
F
35y
Italy
DAU
Mary Scognamillo
F
18y
New York
DAU
Camela Scognamillo
F
17y
New York
DAU
Onata Scognamillo
F
13y
New York
DAU
Louisa Scognamillo
F
12y
New York
DAU
Philomena Scognamillo
F
8y
New York
DAU
Josie Scognamillo
F
5y6m
New York
DAU
Helen Scognamillo
F
3y8m
New York
SON
Louis Scognamillo
M
7m
New York
SON
Salvadore Scognamillo
M
2y2m
New York
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Re: Catello,Palerino

Postby Tessa78 » 17 May 2013, 16:01

Hello marymary52 :-)

Looking at the actual census, I see that the list you have posted above is actually across two pages of the census.

The children listed as Palermo are also children of Aniello Palerino (I believe the correct spelling is PALERMO and not Palerino)

The SCOGNAMILLO family is actually a separate family (Louis is the head) living in the same building in Brooklyn (most likely a tenament or apartment building)

I suspect that when the two pages were transcribed, the second page was read as Palermo but the first as Palerino because of a "dot" that seems to indicate an "i" :?

There is nothing on the census that indicates that these two families are related in any way. FYI, Aniello Palerino/Palermo (immigrated in 1893, and his wife, Louisa, in 1884) is a caretaker in a store; Louis Scognamillo (immigrated in 1897 and his wife in 1900) is a longshoreman on the docks.

I located a possible birth record for Catello/Catiello in Kings County in Dec. 1902 (registered 1903)... Mother's maiden name should be on the record :-)
Notice that the spellling of the surname is PALERMO

Palermo Catiello Dec 28'02 1903 Cert. #577 Kings

You can request (for a fee) the birth record at this site...
http://www.nyc.gov/html/records/html/vi ... irth.shtml

AND... POSSIBLE arrival of Aniello Palermo in 1895

New York, Passenger Lists, 1820-1957 about Aniello Palermo
Name: Aniello Palermo
Arrival Date: 24 Aug 1895
Birth Date: abt 1878
Age: 17
Gender: Male
Ethnicity/ Nationality: Italian
Port of Departure: Naples, Italy
Port of Arrival: New York, New York
Ship Name: Bolivia

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Re: Catello,Palerino

Postby suanj » 17 May 2013, 17:11

Hi!
Here the:
U.S., World War I Draft Registration Cards, 1917-1918 about Frank Nello Palermo
Name: Frank Nello Palermo
City: Brooklyn
County: Kings
State: New York
Birth Date: 16 Apr 1876
Race: White
Draft Board: 28
http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse. ... 53&recoff=
wife Luisa Palermo 13 Presidential St Brooklyn, Kings, New York; same address on 1920 census
http://interactive.ancestry.com/6061/43 ... turnRecord
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Re: Catello,Palerino

Postby marymary52 » 17 May 2013, 22:31

I did find louis's Father was Stanisalo Scognamiglio or Scognamillo , Son of the late Pasquale and Gaetana Pelermo year 1898 Marriage act Number 31 Do you think there is any connection?
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Re: Catello,Palerino

Postby suanj » 18 May 2013, 06:29

Luigi Scognamiglio was born in Castellammare di Stabia on 17 Feb 1877, son of Stanislao Scognamiglio and Maria Rosati; Luigi married at Anna Arena.
For a connection you must search in Castellammare di Stabia civil records, if Aniello Palermo was born in same place..
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Re: Catello,Palerino

Postby marymary52 » 18 May 2013, 07:21

groom: Scognamiglio Stanislao , widower, age 70, sailor,born in Castllammare di stabia son of the late Pasquale and Gaetana Palermo. This why I was thinking the records I found was family Year ???1898 I guessing Gaetana Palermo is related some how to Annielo Palermo. This is like trying to find a Needle In a HayStack!!!
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Re: Catello,Palerino

Postby suanj » 18 May 2013, 11:24

on 16 april 1876 in Castellammare di stabia was no born a Aniello Palermo; if you know not the birthplace of Luigi Palermo, you cannot make a connection with Scognamiglio family of Castellammare di Stabia..
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Re: Catello,Palerino

Postby suanj » 18 May 2013, 11:36

Aniello Palermo in 1915 census:
New York, State Census, 1915 about Anielle Palermo
Name: Anielle Palermo
Birth Year: abt 1877
Birth Place: Italy
Age: 38
Gender: Male
Residence Place: New York, Kings
Relationship: Head
Color or Race: White
Number of Years in US: 17
Assembly District: 03
House Number: 13
Line Number: 17
Page Number: 08
Household Members:
Name Age
Anielle Palermo 38
Louise Palermo 30
Verce Palermo 14
Catello Palermo 13
Tony Palermo 11
Rafael Palermo 7
Annie Palermo 3
father of Aniello living at same house: Nunziato/Nunziante Palermo 70 old; Luigi Scognamiglio, wife and childrens, at same address...

a Nunziante Palermo of Castellammare di Stabia was married at Antonia Donnarumma, and had the following children:
Teresa Palermo born on 17 Set 1871;
Catello Palermo born on 04 Dic 1881
Angelo Palermo born on 13 Apr 1878
Francesco Paolo Palermo born on 18 Set 1887
Assunta Palermo death: 2 old 12 Lug 1886

Francesco Paolo Palermo second trip joining at father Nunziante in 33 President st, Broolyn, Kings, New York:

First Name: Franco Paolo
Last Name: Palermo
Ethnicity: Italy, Italian South
Last Place of Residence: Brooklyn, U. S.
Date of Arrival: Nov 27, 1912
Age at Arrival: 23y Gender: M Marital Status: S
Ship of Travel: America
Port of Departure: Naples
Manifest Line Number: 0025

http://www.ellisisland.org/search/shipM ... 0219%2ETIF
so it is the right family...

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Re: Catello,Palerino

Postby suanj » 18 May 2013, 15:32

marymary52 wrote:groom: Scognamiglio Stanislao , widower, age 70, sailor,born in Castllammare di stabia son of the late Pasquale and Gaetana Palermo. This why I was thinking the records I found was family Year ???1898 I guessing Gaetana Palermo is related some how to Annielo Palermo. This is like trying to find a Needle In a HayStack!!!

Hi I found a:
Name: Stanislao Scognamiglio
Event Type (Original Language): birth
Event Date (Original Language): 05 Ott 1823
Event Place: Castellammare di Stabia, Napoli, Italy
Gender (Original Language): Male
Age:
Birth Year (Estimated):
Father's Name: Pasquale Scognamiglio
Mother's Name: Gaetana Palermo
Spouse's Name:
Digital Folder Number: 004393423
Image Number: 00476

maybe died infant, because a second Stanislao was born from same couple:
Stanislao Scognamillo, "Italy, Napoli, Castellammare di Stabia, Civil Registration (Comune), 1809-1936"
Name: Stanislao Scognamillo
Event Type (Original Language): Birth
Event Date (Original Language): 28 Nov 1827
Event Place: Castellammare di Stabia, Napoli, Italy
Gender (Original Language): Male
Age:
Birth Year (Estimated):
Father's Name: Pasquale Scognamillo
Mother's Name: Gaetana Palermo


Stanislao Scognamillo, "Italy, Napoli, Castellammare di Stabia, Civil Registration (Comune), 1809-1936"
Name: Stanislao Scognamillo
Event Type (Original Language): Death
Event Date (Original Language): 17 Ago 1903
Event Place: Castellammare di Stabia, Napoli, Italy
Gender (Original Language): Male
Age: 76
Birth Year (Estimated): 1827
Father's Name: Pasquale Scognamillo
Mother's Name: Gaetana Palermo
Spouse's Name: Anna Maria Rosati



abt Nunziante Palermo, father of Aniello Palermo, in the birth record of Teresa, daughter, born on 17 Set 1871, well Nunziante was 22 old, son of Aniello:
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/T ... 1599484537
so Nunziante was born abt 1849; you know the father name of Gaetana Palermo married at Stanislao Scognamiglio?
It could be possible that Gaetana Palermo was a aunt of Nunziante Palermo?
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Re: Catello,Palerino

Postby marymary52 » 18 May 2013, 20:37

Wow, That's a lot of information. Thank you so very much.!!!!
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Re: Catello,Palerino

Postby marymary52 » 29 May 2013, 05:22

I don't know anymore info on the Palermo's family I don't know who her mother was.
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Re: Catello,Palerino

Postby marymary52 » 03 Jun 2013, 03:59

[quote="suanj"]Luigi Scognamiglio was born in Castellammare di Stabia on 17 Feb 1877, son of Stanislao Scognamiglio and Maria Rosati; Luigi married at Anna Arena.
For a connection you must search in Castellammare di Stabia civil records, if Aniello Palermo was born in same place..
suanj[/quote ]Anna Arena died in New York she was 42 years old. The stories we heard is they Married on the boat on there way over to America. Are you showing Anna arena was Married in Italy? We know very little of our grandmother Arena . Can you help me with finding info on her? Thank you, margaret Heath
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Re: Catello,Palerino

Postby marymary52 » 16 Jun 2013, 03:04

Hello, I did find a Gaetana Palermo Parents were Giovanni Palermo and Teresa Donnaeummma birth 1805 Spouse Pasquale Scognamillo death 25 July 1865
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Re: Catello,Palerino

Postby marymary52 » 26 Jun 2013, 00:42

marymary52 wrote:Hello, I did find a Gaetana Palermo Parents were Giovanni Palermo and Teresa Donnaeummma birth 1805 Spouse Pasquale Scognamillo death 25 July 1865
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