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Ragonese Family Name

Postby cdar1231 » 04 Jun 2013, 15:09

Greetings to All,

Like many new genealogists located in the US, I’ve hit that proverbial wall that is the Atlantic Ocean. I have not been able to find out any information about my family before they came to the US. Furthermore, due to circumstances within my own family, I only have spotty information on the family in the US outside my immediate family.

I am looking for Ragonese family members. I am the great grandson of Salvatore Ragonese (13 Jan 1888 - 7 May 1958). He had a sister, Maria, and two brothers, Ferdinand and Carmine. Thanks to ancestry.com, I have made contact with a wonderful member of Carmine’s descendants, Mrs Addie Rogan, and now we are both trying to go back further. Salvatore and his siblings were the children of Giuseppe Ragonese and Lucia Di Pasquale but that is all I know.

If anyone out there can help fill in blacks moving backward or forward in time or is a descendant of Giuseppe and Lucia, I welcome hearing from you.

Thank you in advance to everyone who replies,

chris ragonese
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Re: Ragonese Family Name

Postby suanj » 05 Jun 2013, 11:35

Hi, here Ferdinando arrival:
First Name: Ferdinando
Last Name: Ragonese
Ethnicity: Italy, Italian South
Last Place of Residence: Mondragone, Italy
Date of Arrival: Jul 25, 1907
Age at Arrival: 18y Gender: M Marital Status: S
Ship of Travel: Germania
Port of Departure: Naples
Manifest Line Number: 0027

http://www.ellisisland.org/search/shipM ... 364100201&
father Giuseppe in Mondragone, and joining at brother Salvatore...

By this record:
U.S., World War II Draft Registration Cards, 1942 about Ferdinado Ragonese
Name: Ferdinado Ragonese
Birth Date: 8 Jun 1889
Birth Place: Naple, Italy
Race: White
wife: Mary

same infos here:
U.S., World War I Draft Registration Cards, 1917-1918 about Ferdinand Ragonese
Name: Ferdinand Ragonese
City: Queens
County: Queens
State: New York
Birth Date: 8 Jun 1889
Race: White
Draft Board: 184

marriage:
Ragonese Ferdinando Jun 3 1914 13329 (1914) Manhattan
Malagaisi Maria Jun 3 1914 13329 (1914) Manhattan

death:
NAME: Ferdinando Ragonese
BIRTH: 8 Jun 1889
DEATH: Oct 1967 - Commack, Suffolk, New York, United States of America
CIVIL: New York


censuses:


New York, State Census, 1915 about Ferdinand Ragonese
Name: Ferdinand Ragonese
Birth Year: abt 1889
Birth Place: Italy
Age: 26
Gender: Male
Residence Place: New York, Queens
Relationship: Head
Color or Race: White
Number of Years in US: 7
Assembly District: 04
House Number: Ave
Line Number: 18
Page Number: 34
Household Members:
Name Age
Ferdinand Ragonese 26
Mary Ragonese 30
Lucy Ragonese 1/12



1930 United States Federal Census about Ferdinand Ragonese
Name: Ferdinand Ragonese
Gender: Male
Birth Year: abt 1890
Birthplace: Italy
Race: White
Home in 1930: Manhattan, New York, New York
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Marital Status: Married
Immigration Year: 1907
Relation to Head of House: Head
Spouse's Name: Mary Ragonese
Father's Birthplace: Italy
Mother's Birthplace: Italy
Occupation:

Education:

Military Service:

Rent/home value:

Age at first marriage:

Parents' birthplace:

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Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Ferdinand Ragonese 40
Mary Ragonese 44
Lucy Ragonese 14
Joseph Ragonese 12
Ralph Ragonese 11
Ferdinand Ragonese 9
Michael Ragonese 8
Cronwel Ragonese 7
Frank Ragonese 4
[4 3/12]

1940 United States Federal Census about Ferdinaudo Ragonese
Name: Ferdinaudo Ragonese
Age: 50
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1890
Gender: Male
Race: White
Birthplace: Italy
Marital Status: Married
Relation to Head of House: Head
Home in 1940: New York, Bronx, New York
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Farm: No
Inferred Residence in 1935: New York, Manhattan
Residence in 1935: New York, Manhattan
Resident on farm in 1935: No
Citizenship: Naturalized
Sheet Number: 23B
Number of Household in Order of Visitation: 481
Occupation: Sweeper
House Owned or Rented: Rented
Value of Home or Monthly Rental if Rented: 21
Attended School or College: No
Highest Grade Completed: Elementary school, 7th grade
Hours Worked Week Prior to Census: 48
Class of Worker: Wage or salary worker in Government work
Weeks Worked in 1939: 52
Income: 1920
Income Other Sources: No
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Ferdinaudo Ragonese 50
Marie Ragonese 53
Ferdinaudo Ragonese 20
Michael Ragonese 19
Frank Ragonese 14
Edward Tppolito 2 grandson



Ferdinando Ragonese obituary:

http://www.fultonhistory.com/Newspaper% ... ehtml&.pdf

the Ferdinando Ragonese grandson on 1940 was Edward Ippolito; the full name was Vincent E. Ippolito; he was the son of Lucy Ragonese; ; she married at Rosario Ippolito on 7 jun 1936 in Bronx, New York

Ippolito Rosario Jun 7 1936 4093 (1936) Bronx
Ragonese Lucille Jun 7 1936 4093 (1936) Bronx

I know also that Ferdinando son, Joseph Ragonese died in 1963; the obituary:
http://www.fultonhistory.com/Newspaper% ... ehtml&.pdf

by names in the obituaries maybe you can find the descendents..
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Re: Ragonese Family Name

Postby cdar1231 » 05 Jun 2013, 15:11

Thank you so much for this information. I am going to go through it all. I had seen some of this census information before but was never quite sure it was the correct Ferdinand Ragonese but the arrival information really helps tie the pieces together. Thank you again!!

-chris ragonese
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Re: Ragonese Family Name

Postby cdar1231 » 05 Jun 2013, 19:07

Suanj...
Thank you soooo much for your help!! We are REALLY interested in the Ancestors. The names Giuseppe Ragonese and Lucia Di Pasquale...we found on Salvatore Ragonese death certificate. However we have NOT been able to get to 'Italy' with those names. To our knowledge they never came to the states. Are there other avenues to check out?? We are members on ancestry.com as well, but have not found anything on them there either. Thank you in advance for any help you may be able to give us!
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Re: Ragonese Family Name

Postby suanj » 05 Jun 2013, 21:46

Hi,
I have no further infos, but I can give you a advice for your search:

to try in Mondragone civil records by LDS microfilms

Registri dello stato civile di Mondragone (Caserta), 1809-1929
Civil registration of births, banns, marriages, deaths, miscellaneous documents, marriage documents, citizenship records, supplements for Mondragone, Caserta. Includes annual indexes.

https://familysearch.org/search/catalog/15209
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Re: Ragonese Family Name

Postby cdar1231 » 05 Jun 2013, 22:08

Thank you soooo much!!
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Re: Ragonese Family Name

Postby Bette » 06 Jun 2013, 01:17

"A Genealogist's Guide to Discovering Your Italian Ancestors" by Lynn Nelson is an invaluable book to have if you are new to reading the Italian records. Good luck in your search.
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Re: Ragonese Family Name

Postby cdar1231 » 06 Jun 2013, 17:21

Thank you Bette!! I have ordered it on ebay!!!
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Re: Ragonese Family Name

Postby cdar1231 » 25 Jun 2013, 23:03

cdar1231 wrote:Greetings to All,

Like many new genealogists located in the US, I’ve hit that proverbial wall that is the Atlantic Ocean. I have not been able to find out any information about my family before they came to the US. Furthermore, due to circumstances within my own family, I only have spotty information on the family in the US outside my immediate family.

I am looking for Ragonese family members. I am the great grandson of Salvatore Ragonese (13 Jan 1888 - 7 May 1958). He had a sister, Maria, and two brothers, Ferdinand and Carmine. Thanks to ancestry.com, I have made contact with a wonderful member of Carmine’s descendants, Mrs Addie Rogan, and now we are both trying to go back further. Salvatore and his siblings were the children of Giuseppe Ragonese and Lucia Di Pasquale but that is all I know.

If anyone out there can help fill in blacks moving backward or forward in time or is a descendant of Giuseppe and Lucia, I welcome hearing from you.

Thank you in advance to everyone who replies,

chris ragonese


Based on additional information found with the help of many of you, it now seems that this Ragonese family lived in Mondragone before coming to the US but may have actually been from Castelforte. I hope that this new information will help find additional clues. Again, thank you to all in advance.
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Re: Ragonese Family Name

Postby cdar1231 » 09 Jul 2013, 22:33

I have no further infos, but I can give you a advice for your search:

to try in Mondragone civil records by LDS microfilms

Registri dello stato civile di Mondragone (Caserta), 1809-1929
Civil registration of births, banns, marriages, deaths, miscellaneous documents, marriage documents, citizenship records, supplements for Mondragone, Caserta. Includes annual indexes.

https://familysearch.org/search/catalog/15209


I received this very kind lead toward more potential information but -- and this is where i betray my newbie status -- i have no idea what to do with it. Ideally i'd like to learn how to use these resources myself but i don't know how to get started.
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Re: Ragonese Family Name

Postby Tessa78 » 09 Jul 2013, 22:54

This link may help

https://familysearch.org/learn/wiki/en/ ... ry_Catalog

Information about locating your local Family History Center where you rent and view the flims you find in the catalog :-)

https://familysearch.org/learn/wiki/en/ ... ry_Centers

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Re: Ragonese Family Name

Postby adelfio » 09 Jul 2013, 23:09

Tessa78 wrote:This link may help

https://familysearch.org/learn/wiki/en/ ... ry_Catalog

Information about locating your local Family History Center where you rent and view the flims you find in the catalog :-)

https://familysearch.org/learn/wiki/en/ ... ry_Centers

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About Italian Civil Records
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Watch this video it will help watch the whole thing
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