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Surname Search: Lulli

Postby MissV » 27 Feb 2005, 16:49

Can anyone please give me information on the origin of the surname LULLI and which areas it would have originated from.

I have been told it is Italian but cannot find it on any Italian Genealogy surname searches.

Any help greatly appreciated.
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Re: Surname Search: Lulli

Postby mfjp » 27 Feb 2005, 17:40

I have found a few boat records of people with the surname Lulli, coming from Ubit, Italy (coming through Boston Harbor... did not check Ellis Island though)...

... and another from Palestina... and Puleshina, Italy... as transcribed from the manifest....

Looks like Ubit, Palestrina?? are connected here.... maybe someone can clarify...

Here is a Lulli person...

http://img210.exs.cx/img210/2526/lulli8kn.jpg

Name:   Isalo Lulli
Arrival Date:   5 Aug 1915
Age:   7 years
Estimated Birth Year:   1908
Gender:   Male
Ethnic Background:   Italian (South)
Port of Departure:   Naples, Italy
Ship Name:   Canopic
Port of Arrival:   Boston, Massachusetts
Friend's Name:   Augusto Lulli
Last Residence:   Italy
Birthplace:   Ubit, Italy
Microfilm Roll Number:   234

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p.s. one from Finland too

Name:   Maria Lulli
Arrival Date:   2 Sep 1903
Age:   16 years
Estimated Birth Year:   1887
Gender:   Female
Ethnic Background:   Finnish
Port of Departure:   Liverpool, England
Ship Name:   Ivernia
Port of Arrival:   Boston, Massachusetts
Friend's Name:   Otto Lanpinen
Last Residence:   Finland
Microfilm Roll Number:   65
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Re: Surname Search: Lulli

Postby Essgee » 27 Feb 2005, 17:58

At Ellis Island there are some Lulli, Lolli, Lily, Lilly, and other variations of the name...more then 500.

It does no good to speculate since all the names originate in different places..not a lot from the same single place. Perhaps if you could related the name of the immigrant ancestor we can find out which is which and point you in the direction of the right town in Italy.......

Let us know........and we will see what we can find.........
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Re: Surname Search: Lulli - Reply

Postby MissV » 28 Feb 2005, 11:39

Thank you to the people who replied.

ELSSGEE: The surname is correctly spelt LULLI. Thank you for your reply - you confirmed that the surname is indeed Italian.

Also - to MFJP - thank you - that information was very interesting. The problem is that the Italian family I am looking for settled in South Africa.

How would I go about searching boat records to South Africa?

Many thanks
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Re: Surname Search: Lulli

Postby suanj » 28 Feb 2005, 12:08

Lulli is an italian surname tipical of Lazio (PalestRina town is in Lazio) and Toscana region... for better search, please insert some other info about your ancestors...first name, birthyear and all you remember....
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Re: Surname Search: Lulli

Postby Essgee » 28 Feb 2005, 15:06

Research into South Africa via passenger records will not be good. No listings are indexed to search and it appears that finding individuals through port of departure rather then arrival appears to be the only way to research...and tedious besides. I quote:

SHIPPING AND PASSENGER RECORDS
The major port of entry by ship was Cape Town. The ports of Port Elizabeth, East London and Durban were also used. Finding these records for South Africa is not as easy as in other countries such as the USA, Australia and New Zealand. If the new settler went to South Africa as part of an emigration scheme (such as the 1820 British Settlers, the German settlers to Kaffraria, etc...), then these lists are easily available.
It is usually easier to trace shipping and passenger records in the port of departure. Ships’ passenger lists at the Public Records Office, Kew, London, UK, are stored under reference BT 27 Passenger Lists, Outwards, 1890-1960. These lists give the names of all passengers leaving the UK where the ship’s eventual destination was a port outside Europe and the Mediterranean Sea. Lists earlier than 1890 have not survived. Post-1890 lists have not been microfilmed, many of them are in fragile condition and searching them can be very time consuming. There are no indexes of names, and most lists are not alphabetical. The information given varies, but can include age, occupation, last address and proposed destination. They are arranged monthly by port of departure. To use them, a researcher must know at least the approximate date of departure and the port to have any realistic hope of finding a passenger’s name. BT 32 Registers of Passenger Lists, date from 1906. They include names of ships for which passenger lists exist in BT 26 and BT 27. The entries are not complete, however; the earliest years have entries for a few ports only, and there are omissions. For readers hoping to find the name of a passenger in BT 26 or BT 27, they are of limited use and may be helpful only if the name of the ship is known. They do not include names of passengers or the destination of the ships entered in the registers.
Hamburg is the only European port for which complete passenger lists exist for the years 1850-1934. The lists document more than 5.5 million persons and include sailings to other European ports and to overseas locations in North America, the Caribbean, South America and Africa. Each passenger’s hometown (place of origin, not necessarily birthplace) is included. The lists are alphabetically arranged and indexed for 1850-1854 and 1855-1934. The Mormon FHL has microfilms.
A photographic archive of all Union Castle ships (no passenger records) exists at the South African Archives in Cape Town.

That stated, the following web address if for a South African genealogical web site. They do no research, but indicate they may be able to help direct researcher to information on South African Immigration. Good luck.

http://www.ggsa.info/
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