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Great-grandmother's birth town

Postby stephdeangelis » 19 Jul 2013, 21:46

Hello. Looking for the birth town of my great-grandmother Carmella Papa(maiden name) Bartolomeo or Carmella Papa DiBartolomeo. She was born in the early 1880's in a town near Naples, that is all we know. I believe she married DiBartolomeo in Italy and had my grandmother Giovanna? in Italy.

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Re: Great-grandmother's birth town

Postby adelfio » 20 Jul 2013, 00:18

What year was your grandmother Giovanna born?
Do you have her shipmanifest?
What her married name
Where did she settle in the US
We can work are way back there are a few Carmela Papa's

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Re: Great-grandmother's birth town

Postby suanj » 20 Jul 2013, 06:19

Hi ,
I found this record:
1910 United States Federal Census about Giovanni Bartolomeo
Name: Giovanni Bartolomeo
Age in 1910: 3
Birth Year: abt 1907
Birthplace: Italy
Home in 1910: Philadelphia Ward 2, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania
Race: White
Immigration Year: 1906
Relation to Head of House: Daughter
Marital Status: Single
Father's Name: Giuseppe Bartolomeo
Father's Birthplace: Italy
Mother's Name: Carmela Bartolomeo
Mother's Birthplace: Italy
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Household Members:
Name Age
Giuseppe Bartolomeo 26
Carmela Bartolomeo 28
Giovanni Bartolomeo 3
Raffaeli Bartolomeo 0
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some discrepancy abt the birthyear.. but the record is abt the ancestor that you are searching for?
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Re: Great-grandmother's birth town

Postby suanj » 20 Jul 2013, 06:28

If is the correct family, the son Raffaeli( Raffaele) was the second son named so; because I found a death record abt a previous Raffaele Di Bartolomeo died in Philadelphia in 1909:
Raffaele D. Bartolomeo, "Pennsylvania, Philadelphia City Death Certificates, 1803-1915"
Name: Raffaele D. Bartolomeo
Event Type: Death
Event Date: 03 Apr 1909
Event Place: Philadelphia, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania
Gender: Male
Race: White
Age: 0
Birth Year (Estimated): 1909
Birth Date: 21 Oct 1908
Birthplace: Phila.
Marital Status: Single
Spouse's Name:
Father's Name: Joseph D. Bartolomeo
Father's Birthplace: Italy
Mother's Name: Carmela Papo...
Mother's Birthplace: Italy
Occupation:
Address: 1010 S. 11th St. 2 Ward
Residence Place:
Cemetery: Holy Cross
Burial Place:
Burial Date: 05 Apr 1909
Additional Relatives:
GS Film number: 1405073
Digital Folder Number: 004009068
Image Number: 00423
Reference ID: cn 8376
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Re: Great-grandmother's birth town

Postby stephdeangelis » 28 Jul 2013, 23:42

Grazia. I believe that is my great grandmother Carmela Papa Bartolomeo.
Can you tell me where my grandmother Giovanna was born in Italy.
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Re: Great-grandmother's birth town

Postby suanj » 29 Jul 2013, 11:19

Yes,
I found the arrival of Giuseppe DI BARTOLOMEO, wife Carmela, and daughter Giovanna; all coming from Stella Cilento town; they arrived in USA in 1906, final destination Philadelphia, PA, joining at uncle Antonio DI BARTOLOMEO in Phila, PA
First Name: Guiseppe
Last Name: Di Bartolomio
Ethnicity: Italy, Italian South
Last Place of Residence: Stella Calendo (Stella Cilento)
Date of Arrival: Sep 25, 1906
Age at Arrival: 23y Gender: M Marital Status: M
Ship of Travel: Prinz Adalbert
Port of Departure: Naples
Manifest Line Number: 0015


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Re: Great-grandmother's birth town

Postby stephdeangelis » 28 Aug 2013, 03:39

Thank you so much suanj. Where is Stella Cilento located, is it close to Naples?
I am guessing my grandmother Giovanna's parents, her mother Carmela and father Guiseppe were born in this town as well.
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Re: Great-grandmother's birth town

Postby suanj » 28 Aug 2013, 06:03

Stella Cilento is a town in Salerno province; Napoli (Naples) province and Salerno province are close..
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Re: Great-grandmother's birth town

Postby adelfio » 28 Aug 2013, 16:38

You can write or email asking for the birth of Giovanna and marriage record of Giuseppe and Carmela

Ufficio Anagrafe Stato Civile
Comune di Stella Cilento
Via Madonna di Fatima (SA)
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Email:stellacto3@tiscali.it

OGGETTO: richiesta foto copia integrale dell'atto di matrimonio di Giuseppe Di Bartolomeo e Carmela Papa e foto copia integrale dell'atto di nascita di Giovanna Di Bartolomeo di Giuseppe nato a Stella Cilento il 1903-1904

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La ringrazio anticipatamente di voler comunicare i costi di spese di riproduzione e postali per atti di matrimoni di queste persone:
Nome e cognome del marito: Giuseppe Di Bartolomeo
Nome e cognome della moglie:Carmela Papa
Luogo di matrimonio: Stella Cilento
Data di matrimonio:1899-1904
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Re: Great-grandmother's birth town

Postby stephdeangelis » 24 Sep 2013, 18:21

Thank you
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