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Italian Naval Records

Postby picdak » 16 Aug 2013, 22:12

I would like some help on how to obtain information on an Italian Naval Officer in WWII.
My uncle (by marriage) was the Naval Attache at the Italian Embassy in Washington, D.C. during WWII. His name was Fausto Royer and I believe he was born in 1901. The only other information I have is a ship manifest stating his arrival in the U.S. on 7 September, 1933 as a government employee of the Italian Embassy. His place of origin is listed as Capannori (LU). My understanding is that he was killed in the war, but I have no DOD. I contacted the Italian Embassy, but was advised they do not keep records that far back.

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Re: Italian Naval Records

Postby erudita74 » 17 Aug 2013, 14:59

picdak wrote:I would like some help on how to obtain information on an Italian Naval Officer in WWII.
My uncle (by marriage) was the Naval Attache at the Italian Embassy in Washington, D.C. during WWII. His name was Fausto Royer and I believe he was born in 1901. The only other information I have is a ship manifest stating his arrival in the U.S. on 7 September, 1933 as a government employee of the Italian Embassy. His place of origin is listed as Capannori (LU). My understanding is that he was killed in the war, but I have no DOD. I contacted the Italian Embassy, but was advised they do not keep records that far back.



You might see if the NARA has any info or can direct you to the right source:

http://www.archives.gov/contact/index.html#mail

http://www.archives.gov/research/guide- ... tml#24.3.1

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Re: Italian Naval Records

Postby adelfio » 17 Aug 2013, 17:09

Fausto Royer, "District of Columbia Marriages, 1811-1950"


Name: Fausto Royer
Titles and Terms:
Event Type: Marriage
Event Date: 29 Jun 1936
Event Place: District of Columbia, United States
Age: 35
Birth Year (Estimated): 1901
Father's Name:
Father's Titles and Terms:
Mother's Name:
Mother's Titles and Terms:
Spouse's Name: Delfina Di Girolamo
Spouse's Titles and Terms:
Spouse's Age: 28
Spouse's Birth Year (Estimated): 1908
Spouse's Father's Name:
Spouse's Father's Titles and Terms:
Spouse's Mother's Name:
Spouse's Mother's Titles and Terms:
Reference ID:
GS Film number: 2293337
Digital Folder Number: 4661507
Image Number: 00696

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Re: Italian Naval Records

Postby pink67 » 19 Aug 2013, 14:15

Hi,

Fausto Royer died on 10 september 1943 and is buried in Napoli in the "Sacrario di Posillipo", I found his death dates on this italian site:

Nome: FAUSTO
Cognome: ROYER
Data di Nascita: 6/9/1901
Luogo di Nascita: CAPANNORI
Luogo Sepoltura: NAPOLI - SACRARIO POSILLIPO
Data Decesso: 10/9/1943
Luogo Decesso: -

Dates are in italian form, so he was born on 6 september 1901 in Capannori..

http://www.difesa.it/Ministro/Commissar ... lture.aspx

Here is a video of the war memorial of Posillipo, today unfortunately in bad conditions :(

http://www.youreporter.it/video_Napoli_ ... i_Napoli_1

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Re: Italian Naval Records

Postby Biff83 » 19 Aug 2013, 14:47

It's interesting that Fausto died on 10 Sep 1943, a week after Italy's armistice with the Allies (the armistice was signed on 3 Sep and made public on 8 Sep). With Italy's capitulation, Germany did not want Italian naval vessels to fall into the hands of the Allies, and German planes sunk the battleship Roma on 9 Sep 1943.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Italian_ba ... Roma_(1940)

Laura,
Do you know if the war memorial you mentioned also includes the names of those lost at sea?

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Re: Italian Naval Records

Postby pink67 » 19 Aug 2013, 15:13

No, Biff, I don't....

But I found this about the Italian Navy surrender on 9 september 1943

http://www.regiamarinaitaliana.it/La%20Resa.html

and these were the warships located in Campania region (Napoli and areas) on 8 settembre 1943:

from:
http://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Consegna_d ... i#Campania

Campania

Napoli
Partenope - ai lavori, in forza alla 2ª squadra torpediniere
Giuseppe La Masa - ai lavori, in forza al 2º gruppo torpediniere

Pozzuoli

2º gruppo torpediniere (Nicola Fabrizi)
Calliope, in forza alla 2ª squadra torpediniere
FR 115, non pronto, in forza alla 2ª squadra sommergibili
Vespa, corvetta non assegnata a squadriglie

Gaeta
1ª squadra corvette (Gabbiano, Pellicano, Gru)
Axum, pronto in efficienza ridotta, in forza alla 2ª squadra sommergibili
Quarnaro (nave officina), non pronta

Castellammare di Stabia
FR 114, ai lavori, in forza alla 2ª squadra sommergibili

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Re: Italian Naval Records

Postby Biff83 » 19 Aug 2013, 15:51

It might be worth a try writing here to see if they can provide particulars about Fausto's service since you know his birthdate, date of death, and place of birth.

Direzione Generale del Personale Militare
5° Reparto - 17ª Divisione
Viale dell'Esercito, 186
00143 ROMA
Italy

http://regiamarina.net/send_email.asp?nid=265&lid=1

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Re: Italian Naval Records

Postby picdak » 19 Aug 2013, 21:17

I can't thank everyone enough for the information. I have been wondering and trying to find out about Fausto for many, many years. I have been through the birth records for Capanorri several times and have been unable to find Fausto's birth or even a mention of a Royer family. I wondered if Capanorri was not his birth place, but where he was stationed before being sent to the U.S. Again, many thanks. I can't tell you how much I appreciate your help and work.

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Re: Italian Naval Records

Postby Biff83 » 20 Aug 2013, 01:09

Did you look at both pages of Fausto's 1933 manifest? 2nd page shows his nearest relative in Italy as father Giuseppe in Venezia.

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Re: Italian Naval Records

Postby pink67 » 20 Aug 2013, 14:29

I'm happy I was able to help you!

Laura :D

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Re: Italian Naval Records

Postby picdak » 20 Aug 2013, 16:53

Thank you AGAIN Biff. I did not see the 2nd page of the manifest listing his father as his nearest relative. That was my next goal to find the names of his parents - now halfway there. I am so appreciative.

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