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Tognocchi - England & USA

Postby ElusiveItalian » 13 Sep 2013, 17:01

Tognocchi information?
Would be grateful for information on Tognocchi's in Bournemouth, England and New Jersey.
Any family from Alberto Tognocchi 1862 - 1947 in England or his sons Silvio & Vittorio in New York.
Thanks
Diane

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Re: Tognocchi - England & USA

Postby ntedesco11 » 15 Sep 2013, 05:01

Ok not sure if you've seen this, but found this on Ancestry.com of your ancestors living in England. However, if is is them, they were British subjects by parentage, meaning that in earlier census you often saw an overseas birthplace, with 'BS' shown - typically meaninhg that the parents (or at least father) was a Brit .

http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?rank=1&new=1&MSAV=0&msT=1&gss=angs-g&gsfn=Alberto&gsln=Tognocchi&uidh=q45&pcat=ROOT_CATEGORY&h=42747846&db=1911England&indiv=1&ml_rpos=10

Name: Albert Tognocchi
Age in 1911: 19
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1892
Relation to Head: Boarder
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Brighton, Sussex, England
Civil Parish: Bournemouth
County/Island: Hampshire
Country: England
Street Address: 8 Curzon Road, Bournemouth
Marital Status: Single
Registration District: Christchurch
Registration District Number: 95
Sub-registration District: Bournemouth
ED, institution, or vessel: 28
Household Schedule Number: 112
Piece: 5859
Household Members:
Name Age
Eda Geneen 22
Albert Tognocchi 19
Slivio Tognocchi 13
Victor Tognocchi 10

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Re: Tognocchi - England & USA

Postby ElusiveItalian » 15 Sep 2013, 06:24

Thank you for your reply. Albert is my Grandfather (paternal line) so I have this info. However, Albert in this record and his sister Eda were originally Cruciani - from their mother's first marriage and finding information about Francisco Cruciani (m 1888 to Giacinta Gizzi) is nearly impossible! Silvio & Vittorio's father Alberto Tognocchi is equally as difficult. He didn't marry Giacinta until 1909 - well after their births. Thanks for your help
Diane

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Re: Tognocchi - England & USA

Postby suanj » 15 Sep 2013, 16:18

Hi, I found these records:
1901 England Census about Albert Toggoccki

Name: Albert Toggoccki
Age: 37
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1864
Relation: Servant
Gender: Male
Where born: Italian Subject, Italy
Civil Parish: Branksome
Ecclesiastical parish: All Saints

Town: Branksome
County/Island: Dorset
Country: England
Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

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Registration District: Poole
Sub-registration District: Canford
ED, institution, or vessel: 10
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Schedule Number: 242
Piece: 1978
Folio: 145
Page Number: 47
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1901 England Census about Albert Tognoccki
Name: Albert Tognoccki
Age: 39
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1862
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Giacinta Tognoccki
Gender: Male
Where born: Foreign Subject, Italy
Civil Parish: Bournemouth
Ecclesiastical parish: Bournemouth St Clements
County/Island: Hampshire
Country: England
Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

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Registration District: Christchurch
Sub-registration District: Bournemouth
ED, institution, or vessel: 22
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Schedule Number: 270
Piece: 1042
Folio: 142
Page Number: 41
Household Members:
Name Age
Albert Tognoccki 39
Giacinta Tognoccki 30
Eda Tognoccki 12
Albert Tognoccki 9
Silvio Tognoccki 3
Vittorio Tognoccki 4 Months

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seeming that a another Silvio Tognocchi was born and died infant:

Dorset, England, Deaths and Burials, 1813-2001 about Silvis Tognocchi
Name: Silvis Tognocchi
Birth Year: abt 1894
Age: 10/12
Burial Date: 9 Oct 1895
Parish: Wyke Regis


I believe that Alberto Tognocchi was born in Tuscany region, IT, but it is hard to know the right birthplace...
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Re: Tognocchi - England & USA

Postby ElusiveItalian » 15 Sep 2013, 16:47

Thank you suanj
Most appreciated. I will keep searching.
Diane


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