Zorbo

Are you looking for an Italian surname? Do you need more information about your family heritage?
This is the right place to start your genealogy search.
sleone1981
Rookie
Rookie
Posts: 25
Joined: 29 Jul 2013, 23:11

Zorbo

Postby sleone1981 » 16 Sep 2013, 02:43

This does not seem to be a very common surname....I was wondering if anyone could tell me where in Italy it is most common?

My great-great grandmother's name was Rosa Maria Zorbo. She married Augustino Cannizzaro, date unknown, place unknown. All records I have of her in the U.S. (only 3) list her name as Zorbo, never Cannizzaro, and Augustino is never with her. At first I thought she might have remarried, but I never find her with a new spouse and now that I know Italian women keep their maiden name, I believe Zorbo was hers. Augustino is said to have travelled back and forth quite a bit when my great-grandmother and her siblings were young and to have eventually died back in Italy, so I am not surprised to find no record of him in the USA.

It is possible that Rosa Maria was from Caltavuturo, but I have nothing definitive. I was hoping to find out more about the surname to help me in my search for her ancestry. All I do know is that she was born about 1867 in Italy, and died in 1941 in Brooklyn.

User avatar
suanj
V.I.P.
V.I.P.
Posts: 12493
Joined: 20 Feb 2003, 00:00
Location: Molise region, Italy
Contact:

Re: Zorbo

Postby suanj » 16 Sep 2013, 17:21

Hi, surely Rosa was born in Caltavuturo..

that by a ship's manifest, trip crossed, with little Gaetana Cannizzaro born in USA:

First Name: Rosa
Last Name: Zorba
Ethnicity: Italy, Italian South
Last Place of Residence: Caltavutaro, Sicily
Date of Arrival: May 14, 1909
Age at Arrival: 41y Gender: F Marital Status: W
Ship of Travel: Sannio
Port of Departure: Napoli
Manifest Line Number: 0025


http://www.ellisisland.org/search/shipM ... 0968%2ETIF

another:

First Name: Rosa
Last Name: Farba
Ethnicity: Italy, Italian
Last Place of Residence: Caltavinturo/ Palermo
Date of Arrival: Mar 13, 1910
Age at Arrival: 41y Gender: F Marital Status: M
Ship of Travel: Florida
Port of Departure: Palermo
Manifest Line Number: 0026

mother Domenica Sparacino in Caltavuturo
http://www.ellisisland.org/search/shipM ... 0194%2ETIF

but in 1915 census:
Rose Zorba, "New York, State Census, 1915"
Name: Rose Zorba
Event Type: Census
Event Date: 1915
Event Place: New York, A.D. 02, E.D. 10, New York, New York, United States
Gender: Female
Age: 50

Relationship to Head of Household: Head
Birth Year (Estimated): 1865
Years in United States: 22
House Number: 57
Page: 81
Line Number: 34
she seeming born around 1865..
the surname spelling could be ZARBO..

the her brother, Luciano, it was born on 1863 and imm. in 1896... with little son Giuseppe 1 old and wife Michelangela... unreadable surname:

First Name: Luciano
New York, Passenger Lists, 1820-1957 about Luciano Zarba
Name: Luciano Zarba
Arrival Date: 8 Jun 1896
Birth Date: abt 1864
Age: 32
Gender: Male
Ethnicity/ Nationality: Italian
Port of Departure: Naples, Italy
Port of Arrival: New York, New York
Ship Name: Algeria

http://interactive.ancestry.com/7488/NY ... turnRecord

I cannot find Rosa first trip around 1892 ... and in 1900 census I found just the her daughter Selina ( really: Orsola Zarbo):
1900 United States Federal Census about Selina Zorbi
Name: Selina Zorbi
[Selina Zosbi]
Age: 15
Birth Date: Jun 1885
Birthplace: Italy
Home in 1900: Brooklyn Ward 5, Kings, New York
Race: White
Gender: Female
Immigration Year: 1892

Relation to Head of House: Niece
Marital Status: Single
Father's Birthplace: Italy
Mother's Birthplace: Italy
Occupation: View on Image

Neighbors: View others on page

Household Members: Name Age
Lucio Zorbi
34
Angelina Zorbi
24
Joseph Zorbi
4
Michael Zorbi
8/12
Selina Zorbi
15


living with uncle....
Selina married at Santo Lunetta and Rosa lived with Lunetta family:
1940 United States Federal Census about Rose Zorbo
Name: Rose Zorbo
Age: 70
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1870
Gender: Female
Race: White
Birthplace: Italy
Marital Status: [b]Widowed

Relation to Head of House: Mother
Home in 1940: New York, Kings, New York
Map of Home in 1940: View Map

Street: Gates Avenue
House Number: 783
Inferred Residence in 1935: New York, Kings, New York
Residence in 1935: Same House
Citizenship: Alien[/b]
Sheet Number: 5B
Attended School or College: No
Highest Grade Completed: None
Weeks Worked in 1939: 0
Income: 0
Income Other Sources: No
Neighbors: View others on page

Household Members: Name Age
Selina Lunnetto
55
Michael Lunnetto
29
Rose Lunnetto
16
Rose Zorbo
70


The better way is to search in Caltavuturo civil records starting the search in 1865 births
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/T ... %3D1947613

hoping helpful,
regards,
suanj
Visit my website:
ITALIAN ORIGIN SEARCH

User avatar
suanj
V.I.P.
V.I.P.
Posts: 12493
Joined: 20 Feb 2003, 00:00
Location: Molise region, Italy
Contact:

Re: Zorbo

Postby suanj » 16 Sep 2013, 21:41

Hi, abt this trip:

First Name: Rosa
Last Name: Farba
Ethnicity: Italy, Italian
Last Place of Residence: Caltavinturo/ Palermo
Date of Arrival: Mar 13, 1910
Age at Arrival: 41y Gender: F Marital Status: M
Ship of Travel: Florida
Port of Departure: Palermo
Manifest Line Number: 0026
mother Domenica Sparacino in Caltavuturo
http://www.ellisisland.org/search/shipM ... 0194%2ETIF

Rosa joining at daughter Orsola Scaccia in Brooklyn, NY.

so Orsola Scaccia appearing Orsola Zerbi on 1900 census and after the marriage she becoming Orsola Lunetta.
Here the 1905 census:
Orsola Loneta in household of James Boughel, "New York, State Census, 1905"
Name: Orsola Loneta
Residence Place: Brooklyn, Kings, New York
Age: 20
Birth Year (Estimated): 1885
Birthplace: Italy
Relationship to Head of Household: Wife
Race: W
Gender:
Family Number: 34
Page:
Reference ID: 23
GS Film number: 1930246
Digital Folder Number: 4296308
Image Number: 00464
Household Gender Age Birthplace
Head James Boughel M 33y Ireland
Wife Rossie Boughel F 29y United States
Daughter Maria Boughel F 0y United States
Head Santo Loneta M 23y Italy
Wife Orsola Loneta F 20y Italy
Son Giovanni Loneta M 2y United States


She was called Selina ( by italian diminutive of first name Orsola> Orsolina)

The death:
NAME: Selina Lunnetta
BIRTH: 1 Jan 1885
DEATH: Aug 1969 - Farmingdale, Nassau, New York, USA
CIVIL: New York

Well in Caltavuturo in 1885 just 1 Orsola Scaccia was born:
Orsola Scaccia born in Caltavuturo on 4 Jan 1885 #6 daughter of Giuseppe Scaccia and Rosa Zorba


https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/T ... 1688878061

so it is the right person and Rosa maiden name was ZORBA... hoping of to find more, regards,
suanj
Visit my website:
ITALIAN ORIGIN SEARCH

User avatar
adelfio
Master
Master
Posts: 6823
Joined: 27 Oct 2010, 13:47
Location: Chicago

Re: Zorbo

Postby adelfio » 16 Sep 2013, 22:08

Hi Suanj Great work a little help
Marriage of Giuseppe Scaccia and Rosa Zorba
INDEX#18
1881 May 21 in the town of Caltavuturo appeared Giuseppe Scaccia age 36 born in Caltavuturo son of deceased Giuseppe Scaccia and Orsola Renna married Rosa Zorba age 22(1861)born in Caltavuturo daughter of deceased Michele Zorba and Domenica Paracino

PG LINK TO MARRIAGE RECORD
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/T ... n319463607
Researching Trabia, Palermo surnames Adelfio, Bondi, Butera, Scardino,Rinella, Scardamaglia

Marty

User avatar
suanj
V.I.P.
V.I.P.
Posts: 12493
Joined: 20 Feb 2003, 00:00
Location: Molise region, Italy
Contact:

Re: Zorbo

Postby suanj » 16 Sep 2013, 22:14

Maria Rosa ZORBA and Giuseppe Scaccia marriage:
Caltavuturo 21 May 1881 #18
Groom: Giuseppe Scaccia 36 old mason/blacksmith (?) born and resident in Caltavuturo, son of late Giuseppe Scaccia and of Orsola Renna

Bride: Maria Rosa Zorba 22 old, born and resident in Caltavuturo, daughter of late Michele Zorba and of Domenica Paracino( spell? seeming Paracino and not Sparacino as in the Rosa's ship's manifest)

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/T ... n319463607
Visit my website:
ITALIAN ORIGIN SEARCH

User avatar
suanj
V.I.P.
V.I.P.
Posts: 12493
Joined: 20 Feb 2003, 00:00
Location: Molise region, Italy
Contact:

Re: Zorbo

Postby suanj » 16 Sep 2013, 22:15

Marty.. you more fast! :D
suanj
Visit my website:
ITALIAN ORIGIN SEARCH

sleone1981
Rookie
Rookie
Posts: 25
Joined: 29 Jul 2013, 23:11

Re: Zorbo

Postby sleone1981 » 17 Sep 2013, 02:26

suanj wrote:Hi, surely Rosa was born in Caltavuturo..

that by a ship's manifest, trip crossed, with little Gaetana Cannizzaro born in USA:

First Name: Rosa
Last Name: Zorba
Ethnicity: Italy, Italian South
Last Place of Residence: Caltavutaro, Sicily
Date of Arrival: May 14, 1909
Age at Arrival: 41y Gender: F Marital Status: W
Ship of Travel: Sannio
Port of Departure: Napoli
Manifest Line Number: 0025


http://www.ellisisland.org/search/shipM ... 0968%2ETIF


My doubt about this record was because it gave Gaetana Cannizzaro's age as 9 months. Really she would have been 9 years old at that time. However, the second Ellis Island record you found would seem to support the idea that "9 months" was an error in the first record.

I had also seen the 1940 census record of Maria Zorbo, and I could not figure out who Selina was. I thought I had the wrong record! But, it is entirely possible that Selina/Orsola was living with her uncle in 1900 because her mother, Rosa Zorbo, was travelling at the time with her second husband and infant, Gaetana Cannizzaro.

Would it be typical for a young child (Orsola) to be called by her mother's maiden name if her father was recently deceased? A remarriage sometime in the 1890's would explain why her first child (Orsola born 1885) was born Scaccia, then recorded in census as Zorbi/Zorbo; and her second child (Gaetana, b. 1898) went by her (living) father's name, "Cannizzaro" until she married.

This is marvelous!! I had many of these pieces, but had trouble putting them together in a way that made sense. Come to think of it, my grandfather had mentioned an aunt named "Celie" but I never found any further information about her. This must be Selina.

Thank you, thank you, thank you for your help.

User avatar
suanj
V.I.P.
V.I.P.
Posts: 12493
Joined: 20 Feb 2003, 00:00
Location: Molise region, Italy
Contact:

Re: Zorbo

Postby suanj » 17 Sep 2013, 07:55

Gaetana was 9 years old in the first ship manifest; just a error on the ship's manifest, because in this seond trip crossed of Mar 13, 1910
http://www.ellisisland.org/EIFile/popup ... &line=0026
Gaetana was 11 years old.
Regards,
suanj
Visit my website:
ITALIAN ORIGIN SEARCH

User avatar
suanj
V.I.P.
V.I.P.
Posts: 12493
Joined: 20 Feb 2003, 00:00
Location: Molise region, Italy
Contact:

Re: Zorbo

Postby suanj » 17 Sep 2013, 08:11

I have no doubt that the records are abt your ancestor....
here Orsola marriage record:
Lunetta Santa Mar 23 1902 2119 (1902) Kings
Lascaccia Orsola Mar 23 1902 2119 (1902) Kings
(Really: Lunetta Santo-male-groom; Scaccia Orsola-female-bride)
so we know abt Rosa that married Giuseppe Scaccia and Orsola/Selina was born on 1885... maybe some other child also...
around 1892 or before Rosa and Orsola immigrated.. I no found a marriage in USA between Rosa and Augustine Cannizzaro.. maybe Rosa , becoming widow of Giuseppe Scaccia and remarried in Caltavuturo.. it is possible..
regards,
suanj
Visit my website:
ITALIAN ORIGIN SEARCH

sleone1981
Rookie
Rookie
Posts: 25
Joined: 29 Jul 2013, 23:11

Re: Zorbo

Postby sleone1981 » 23 Sep 2013, 22:33

suanj wrote:The better way is to search in Caltavuturo civil records starting the search in 1865 births
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/T ... %3D1947613


I searched these records from the beginning (1862) to 1870. (She would not likely be born any later, if she married in 1881 and had her first child in 1883.) No luck finding Rosa, although I did find a birth record of her sister, Calogera. Now I know there were at least three siblings.

It would seem that the USA records indicating a birth year of about 1865 were incorrect. Her marriage record indicated a birth year of 1861, so I have ordered that microfilm. Also hoping to find Augustino, perhaps he was born before 1862 as well.

The search continues!

User avatar
suanj
V.I.P.
V.I.P.
Posts: 12493
Joined: 20 Feb 2003, 00:00
Location: Molise region, Italy
Contact:

Re: Zorbo

Postby suanj » 23 Sep 2013, 22:53

:D Good luck!
suanj
Visit my website:
ITALIAN ORIGIN SEARCH


Return to “Italian Genealogy”

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: Baidu [Spider], Bing [Bot], Google [Bot], Majestic-12 [Bot], Yahoo [Bot] and 4 guests