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Vatolla, Italy Records - Melone Family

Postby pm16 » 19 Sep 2013, 01:15

Hello, I am looking for information on my family. My great great grandparents were Crescenzo (Carmine) and Marguerita Melone (Milone). They were from Vatolla, Province of Salerno, Italy. Can anyone tell me where I can access records from Vatolla?
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Re: Vatolla, Italy Records - Melone Family

Postby PippoM » 19 Sep 2013, 13:06

Vatolla is a hamlet in the Commune of Perdifumo (I was there a few years ago, quiet and nice place!). Some records for Perdifumo are here:

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Re: Vatolla, Italy Records - Melone Family

Postby adelfio » 19 Sep 2013, 16:40

If you want help searching you can leave some dates and other info wifes maiden name

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Re: Vatolla, Italy Records - Melone Family

Postby suanj » 19 Sep 2013, 22:18

pm16 wrote:Hello, I am looking for information on my family. My great great grandparents were Crescenzo (Carmine) and Marguerita Melone (Milone). They were from Vatolla, Province of Salerno, Italy. Can anyone tell me where I can access records from Vatolla?
Thank you very much. And, sorry if this posted twice!

Hi you mean this Carmine Milone:

First Name: Carmine
Last Name: Milone
Ethnicity: Italy, Italian South
Last Place of Residence: Vatolla
Date of Arrival: Mar 30, 1904
Age at Arrival: 24y Gender: M Marital Status: M
Ship of Travel: Palatia
Port of Departure: Naples
Manifest Line Number: 0007


http://www.ellisisland.org/search/passR ... 2508090656

or this other record:

New York, Passenger Lists, 1820-1957 about Crescenzo Meloin
Name: Crescenzo Meloin (MELONE)
Arrival Date: 2 Mar 1905
Birth Date: abt 1881
Age: 24
Gender: Male
Ethnicity/ Nationality: Italian (South) (Italian)
Port of Departure: Naples, Italy
Port of Arrival: New York, New York
Ship Name: Konig Albert
married coming from Casagiove, final destination the brother in law Giovanni Iannotta, New York..


http://interactive.ancestry.com/7488/NY ... turnRecord

If it is the second record, well:

Crescenzo MELONE born in Casagiove on 14 Oct 1881 #135 son of Alessandro Melone 40 old and of Raffaela Bernascone( Alessandro Melone and Raffaela Bernascone was not married, just partners).
Crescenzo Melone married on 1904 with Rosa Perreca..
(Rosa Perreca arrival http://www.ellisisland.org/EIFile/popup ... &line=0010 joining at husband Crescenzo Melone in New York)

Crescenzo Melone birth act:
http://interactive.ancestry.com/1893/31 ... 1162-02786

U.S., Social Security Death Index, 1935-Current about Crescenzo Melone
Name: Crescenzo Melone
SSN: -------------
Last Residence: New York
Born: 14 Oct 1881
Died: Sep 1964
State (Year) SSN issued: New York

you can say us the right first name of your ancestor?
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Re: Vatolla, Italy Records - Melone Family

Postby pm16 » 20 Sep 2013, 03:19

Carmine Milone who arrived here in 1904 is my great grandmother's brother. Their father is Crescenzo Melone or Milone. My great grandmother, Pasqualina spelled it Milone, Carmen (Carmine) spelled it Melone. I don't think Crescenzo ever came to the U.S. He was married to Marghuerita D'ambrosio but I can't find anything on her either. Pasqualina and Carmine were born in 1878 and 1881. I did find a Carmine Melone who was born in 1859 but he is of no relation.
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Re: Vatolla, Italy Records - Melone Family

Postby suanj » 20 Sep 2013, 12:07

well I found the birth act of a:
Carmine MILONE ( right spell):
born in Perdifumo on 29 Mar 1879 #15 son of Crescenzo Milone 22 old farmer and son of Margherita D'Ambrosio; married in Perdifumo on 27 Feb 1902 at Angela Rosa FIORE


https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/T ... 1288494544
the wife first name is no Pasqualina... maybe Carmine becoming widow and remarried in USA?
here the marriage in Perdifumo 27 Feb 1902 #5 of this Carmine Milone 22 old son of Crescenzo Milone and Margherita D'Ambrosio and Angela Rosa Fiore 24 old daughter of late Gennaro Fiore and of Carmela Marotta
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/T ... n161596005

it could be your ancestor?
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Re: Vatolla, Italy Records - Melone Family

Postby adelfio » 20 Sep 2013, 18:16

Great work Suanj!! Prego!!
Marriage of Crescenzo Milone and Margherita D'Ambrosio
INDEX# 10
1878 Aug 19th in the town of Perdifumo appeared Crescenzo Milone age 21 farmer born in Vatolla son of Carmine Milone and Pascasia?? Pecora
married Margherita D'Ambrosio age 26 born in Vatolla daughter of deceased Angelo D'Ambrosio and Teresa Vanaro

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https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/T ... n376998851

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Re: Vatolla, Italy Records - Melone Family

Postby suanj » 20 Sep 2013, 18:21

great find Marty!
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Re: Vatolla, Italy Records - Melone Family

Postby pm16 » 21 Sep 2013, 17:31

Ahh..Thank you so much! Thanks to the links I also found my great grandmother's birth certificate. Pasquasia Milone from 1881. Can hardly read it, but I know what it is. Thank you!!
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Re: Vatolla, Italy Records - Melone Family

Postby pm16 » 21 Sep 2013, 23:21

Suanj- Pasqualina (Pasquasia) was my great grandmother, Carmine was her brother. Thanks to the link you posted, I did further research. Carmine's wife Angela died in 1906. He had come to the U.S in 1904. They had a daughter, Margaret who came to the U.S. around 1919. He had remarried a Catherine.
thank you all so much for your help..you guys are great! Thanks to you I now have the names of my great great great grandparents. :)
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Re: Vatolla, Italy Records - Melone Family

Postby suanj » 22 Sep 2013, 06:13

Angela Rosa Fiore died in Vatolla hamlet of Perdifumo on 29 Jul 1906 #24: death act
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/T ... :437371549
wife of Carmine Milone....

Margherita Milone birth act #20:
born at home in Via (Street) Giambattista Vico in Vatolla hamlet of Perdifumo on 19 May 1903 daughter of Carmine Milone 23 old farmer and daughter of Rosa Fiore

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/T ... n412220532
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Re: Vatolla, Italy Records - Melone Family

Postby suanj » 22 Sep 2013, 06:15

Margherita arrival:

First Name: Margherita
Last Name: Milone
Ethnicity: Italy, Italian South
Last Place of Residence: Perdifumo, Italy
Date of Arrival: Aug 09, 1919
Age at Arrival: 17y Gender: F Marital Status: S
Ship of Travel: Dante Alighieri
Port of Departure: Napoli
Manifest Line Number: 0022


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Re: Vatolla, Italy Records - Melone Family

Postby pm16 » 23 Sep 2013, 02:35

Thank you! Can you please translate this for me? It is Angelo D'ambrosio's death certificate. I think it is dated June 22, 1866 and I think it says he is the son of Guiseppe and lived in vatolla for 52 years..but that's all I can figure out.

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/T ... 1887311497
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Re: Vatolla, Italy Records - Melone Family

Postby PippoM » 23 Sep 2013, 14:51

Act date: February 22nd, 1866 at 7pm
Death date and place: February 21st, 1866 at 10pm, in the district called "avanti il Monastero dei Padri Minori Osservanti"
Angelo D'Ambrosio, 52 years, land-owner, husband of Teresa Vaccaro, Born in Stio, son of the deceased Giuseppe, laborer from Stio, and of Giustina Trotta, peasant, living in Stio.
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Re: Vatolla, Italy Records - Melone Family

Postby pm16 » 24 Sep 2013, 00:00

Oh my goodness. Thank you so much. Thanks to you guys I have information further back than I could have possibly ever imagined! Now I know the earliest records online are 1866, but does anyone know how far back Italian records go?
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