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Sabella Biagio (spelling?)

Postby tinypackages » 26 Sep 2013, 19:36

My great grandfather was Biagio Sabella. He came to the US about March 16, 1900 according to the Ellis Passenger Log. Here is his log info:
First Name: Biagio
Last Name: Sabella
Ethnicity: Italy, Italian
Last Place of Residence Sciacca
Date of Arrival: Mar 16, 1900
Age at Arrival: 25y Gender: M Marital Status: S
Ship of Travel: Marco Minghetti
Port of Departure: Palermo
Manifest Line Number: 0009

I do remember him when I was a little girl. He did not speak english. What I am hoping for is more information about his roots and my great grandmothers too. She also came from Sciacca. But there is no record of her. They are both at Holy Cross Catholic Cemetery in Colma Calif. My grandfather was Alfred Sabella.

I miss them all and would be so happy if I can find family or roots in Sciacca for my great grandfather (Biagio Sabella) and great grandmother.

You can contact me if you have any leads or if you can help.

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Re: Sabella Biagio (spelling?)

Postby suanj » 27 Sep 2013, 10:46

Hi by this record:
U.S., World War I Draft Registration Cards, 1917-1918 about Biagio Sabella
Name: Biagio Sabella
City: San Francisco
County: San Francisco
State: California
Birth Date: 18 Feb 1875
Race: White
Draft Board: 12

the birthdate was 18 feb 1875;
really Biagio SABELLA was born in Sciacca on 21 Feb. 1875 #84 son of Accursio SABELLA 33 old mariner and of Caterina FRISCIA
birth act:

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Re: Sabella Biagio (spelling?)

Postby suanj » 27 Sep 2013, 10:59

Biagio married in Manhattan, New York on 17 Jun 1901:
Last Name First Name Month Day Year Cert nmbr County FHL Roll
Sabella Biago Jun 17 1901 12239 (1901) Manhattan 1570514 Accursia, Gerwda (Accursia Gelardi)
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Re: Sabella Biagio (spelling?)

Postby suanj » 27 Sep 2013, 11:14

Accursia Gelardi travelled with mother Caterina R... (unreadable and both joining at Accursio (male) Gelardi 15 Spring st New York

First Name: Accursia
Last Name: Gelardo
Ethnicity: Italy, Italian
Last Place of Residence: Sciacca
Date of Arrival: Jul 06, 1897
Age at Arrival: 16y Gender: F Marital Status:
Ship of Travel: Elysia
Port of Departure: Naples
Manifest Line Number: 0022

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Accursia was born around 1881 in Sciacca...
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Re: Sabella Biagio (spelling?)

Postby tinypackages » 27 Sep 2013, 15:37

OH! THANK YOU SOOOOO much! You have given me something to go on. I am the 4th gen here. But yet I could not get any information. My father Billy Sabella died early he was 44yrs. My grandfather Alfred A Sabella son of Biagio and Accursia, when I asked him he would not talk about it. He only like to talk about here and now. And my great grandfather did not speak english. I never knew my great grandmother because she had already passed away. The only picture I have of her is on her gravestone.

You gave me a start. I thank you for that. I do not understand my bond with my Italian side it is so small. My grandmother who married my grandfather was 100% Russian. How a 100% Russian and a 100% Italian ever made it I have no idea. But from them came my dad than me. The Russian side is next to explore. But for me the Italian side feels so strong in me. I try to understand why but have no answer. When growing up I felt that the Sabella did not feel or seem to care any more about their roots as I wish they had passed photos and family down to me. They didn't but I am here now. I am 64yrs this year and before its too late I want to pass the pride I have to my children. I thank you so much suanj. I will go to your site and pay for more help. I have a photo I found it in my grandfathers house I do not know who it is. Maybe my great grandfather maybe my grandfather. It is a man sitting on maybe a beach. He looks young. Smoking and wearing a hat. Suanj I am glad I found you. I am glad because you are helping me fill a missing part of me.

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Re: Sabella Biagio (spelling?)

Postby suanj » 27 Sep 2013, 17:43

Happy of help you!
here the 1930 census:
1930 United States Federal Census about B Sabella
Name: B Sabella
Gender: Male
Birth Year: abt 1876
Birthplace: Italy
Race: White
Home in 1930: San Francisco, San Francisco, California
Map of Home: View Map
Marital Status: Widowed
Immigration Year: 1898
Relation to Head of House: Head
Father's Birthplace: Italy
Mother's Birthplace: Italy

Occupation:

Education:

Military service:

Rent/home value:

Age at first marriage:

Parents' birthplace:

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Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
B Sabella 54
Katherne H Sabella 22 (b. NY)
Charles Sabella 15 (b. NY)
Marrie Sabella 13 (b. NY)
August Sabella 11 (b. CA)
Dolores Sabella 10 ditto
Antonette Sabella 8 ditto
Augustina Sabella 4 ditto
Anna Mosier 23 boarder b. Russia
Vera Mosier 2 boarder b. California

I found also the 1915 census:
New York, State Census, 1915 about Beagio Sabella
Name: Beagio Sabella
Birth Year: abt 1875
Birth Place: Italy
Age: 40
Gender: Male
Residence Place: New York, New York
Relationship: Head
Color or Race: White
Number of Years in US: 16
Assembly District: 03
House Number: 56
Line Number: 26
Page Number: 29
Household Members:
Name Age

Beagio Sabella 40
Gellati Sabella 35
Gerstein Sabella 13
Alponso Sabella 11
Kaho Sabella 7
Antonie Sabella 3
Charles Sabella 3/12

I believe that Alfred Sabella was born as Alfonso/Alphonse Sabella and in 1930 census he appearing not because married... it is probable?
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Re: Sabella Biagio (spelling?)

Postby tinypackages » 27 Sep 2013, 19:55

You are so kind to help me. I wish I could travel back in time just to hug my family roots. Because of all of them I am so I am today. I can not understand why no one in the family cared. It was ok we are in the US now forget about our history. I am totally confused by this. Anyway my Father was Billy Sabella, My Grandfather was Alfred Alfonso Sabella born in NY on or about Jan 28th 1904 died May 1986. Like you I can not find him either. My father was an only child. So my grandfathers sisters and brothers were referred to as my aunts and uncles. I have met everyone on the census list we used to have big family gatherings. Charles Sabella was also my godfather. I know my grandfather (Italian) met my grandmother who was full Russian! HAHAHa funny to think of a Russian and Italian as husband and wife. Her name was Catherine also some spelled it with a K. Her family came here from Russia through Canada to the US. And some where somehow to met! What a story I would love to know.

Wouldn't it be so wonderful to go back and say Thank you, I am here because of you and I am proud. Poor, rich good or bad, it means nothing to me. Family is a wall and as a family we are strong, no matter our race or where we live we are all together by our blood. I need not know them all I understand that. But to be proud of family you need not meet them, this is as close I can get.
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Re: Sabella Biagio (spelling?)

Postby suanj » 27 Sep 2013, 21:31

Hi, yes the family is the FAMILY!
Here Alfred in 1940 census:

1940 United States Federal Census about Alfred Sabella
Name: Alfred Sabella
Age: 36
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1904
Gender: Male
Race: White
Birthplace: New York

Marital Status: Married
Relation to Head of House: Head
Home in 1940: San Francisco, San Francisco, California
Map of Home in 1940: View Map
Street: Moscow
House Number: 662
Farm: No
Inferred Residence in 1935: San Francisco, San Francisco, California
Residence in 1935: Same Place
Sheet Number: 61B
Number of Household in Order of Visitation: 18
Occupation: Presser
House Owned or Rented: Owned
Value of Home or Monthly Rental if Rented: 3500
Attended School or College: No
Highest Grade Completed: Elementary school, 8th grade
Hours Worked Week Prior to Census: 40
Class of Worker: Wage or salary worker in private work
Weeks Worked in 1939: 20
Income: 400
Income Other Sources: No
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Alfred Sabella 36
Katherine Sabella 30
Billy Sabella 12


Alfred death:

Alfred A Sabella, "California, Death Index, 1940-1997"
Name: Alfred A Sabella
Event Type: Death
Event Date: 25 May 1986
Event Place: San Mateo, California, United States
Birth Date: 04 Feb 1904
Birthplace: New York
Gender: Male
Father's Name:
Mother's Name: Geraldi

born on 4 Feb 1904....

me too cannot find more... it is a mystery...
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Re: Sabella Biagio (spelling?)

Postby adelfio » 27 Sep 2013, 22:49

Marriage of Accursio Sabella and of Caterina Friscia
INDEX#137
1869 Dec#4 in the town of Sciacca appeared Accursio Sabella age 27 (1842)sailor born and resides in Sciacca son of Calogero Sabella and Caterina Saladino married to Caterina Friscia age 20 (1849)born and resides in Sciacca daughter of Biagio Friscia and Rosa di Attardo

PG LINK TO MARRIAGE RECORD
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Death of Calogero Sabella
INDEX#109
1872 April 8th in town of Sciacca in house in the quarter Madrica #5 death of Calogero Sabella age 75 (1797)born and resides in Sciacca son of deceased Antonio Sabella and deceased Aurelia Maniscalco husband of Caterina Saladino
PG LINK TO DEATH RECORD 2 PGS
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