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Postby rgcarnevale » 24 Oct 2013, 02:20

I have just signed up in hopes of getting some help with my Paternal Grandfathers line. My grandfather Domenico Carnevale came over from Pico Italy in 1912. I have a copy of his marriage Certificate to Irene Dailey that lists Joseph (Giuseppe) Carnevale as father and Filomena Ruscetta as his mother. I have had no luck yet finding anything on Ancesry.com.

If anyone on this board can help me that would be greatly appreciated.
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Re: New Member

Postby adelfio » 24 Oct 2013, 16:08

Welcome to IG website
What about a birth year and where Domenico settled in the US

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Postby erudita74 » 24 Oct 2013, 16:22

is this the family on the 1940 census?
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Dominic Carnevale, "United States Census, 1940"
Name: Dominic Carnevale
Titles and Terms:
Event Type: Census
Event Date: 1940
Event Place: Ward 2, Pittsfield, Pittsfield City, Berkshire, Massachusetts, United States
Gender: Male
Age: 45
Marital Status: Married
Race (Original): White
Race: White
Relationship to Head of Household (Original): Head
Relationship to Head of Household: Head
Birthplace: Italy
Birth Year (Estimated): 1895
Last Place of Residence: Same Place
District: 2-92
Family Number: 229
Sheet Number and Letter: 11A
Line Number: 21
Affiliate Publication Number: T627
Affiliate Film Number: 1569
Digital Folder Number: 005460841
Image Number: 00410
Household Gender Age Birthplace
Head Dominic Carnevale M 45 Italy
Wife Irene Carnevale F 28 Connecticut
Son Joseph Carnevale M 19 Massachusetts
Son Anthony Carnevale M 15 Massachusetts
Son Americo Carnevale M 13 Massachusetts
Son Charles Carnevale M 2 Massachusetts
Son Robert Carnevale M 1 Massachusetts



for reference, here's marriage info-right parents, wrong spouse???

Domenic Carnevale, "Massachusetts, State Vital Records, 1841-1920"
Name: Domenic Carnevale
Titles and Terms:
Event Type: Marriage
Event Date: 29 Jun 1916
Event Place: Pittsfield, Berkshire, Massachusetts, United States
Gender: Male
Age:
Birth Year (Estimated):
Father's Name: Joseph
Father's Titles and Terms:
Mother's Name: Filomena Rossette
Mother's Titles and Terms:
Spouse's Name: Mary Renzi Or Ranti
Spouse's Titles and Terms:
Spouse's Father's Name: Antony
Spouse's Father's Titles and Terms:
Spouse's Mother's Name: Rosario Pignone
Spouse's Mother's Titles and Terms:
Certificate Number: 212
Page: 113
GS Film number:
Digital Folder Number: 005309635
Image Number: 00114
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Re: New Member

Postby adelfio » 24 Oct 2013, 16:59

If your sure he was born in Pico, Frosinone and the above info is correct there are records of Pico 1816-1865 which will help later in your research. Pico was part of Caserta in those years and I think in the 1870"s it turn into Pico,province Frosinone so you will have to send for his birth record could not find email address for Pico so you will have to send for the birth act by mail it cost a $1.10 to send a letter to Italy from the US


UFFICIO ANAGRAFE
Comune di Pico
Via Umberto I 23
03020 Pico (FR)
Italy


OGGETTO: richiesta foto copia integrale dell'atto di nascita o l’estratto completo dell’atto di nascita di Domenico Carnevale

Gentilissima Signora, Gentile Signore,
Mi chiamo YOURNAME Sto facendo una ricerca sui miei antenati e ho bisogno delle informazioni dai vostri registri. I miei antenati provennero da Pico. Vorrei sapere di più di loro.
La ringrazio anticipatamente di voler comunicare i costi di spese di riproduzione e postali per atti di nascita di questa persona:
Nome e cognome:Domenico Carnevale
Nome e cognome del padre:Giuseppe Carnevale
Luogo di matrimonio: Pico
Data di nascita: 1893-1896
Se non avete i registri corrispondenti, potete fornire l’indirizzo dell’archivio dove in cui i registri possano essere trovati?
Nell'attesa della sua risposta le invio cordiali saluti.
YOUR NAME ADDRESS EMAIL COPY OF PHOTO ID NO MONEY
Once you get the birth record you will have the parents names and ages then you get the marriage record

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Re: New Member

Postby erudita74 » 24 Oct 2013, 17:00

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/T ... 1466912739

possible passenger list-going to father Giuseppe in Pittsfield

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Domenico Carnevale, "Massachusetts, Boston Passenger Lists, 1891-1943"
Name: Domenico Carnevale
Event Type: Immigration
Event Date: 1911
Event Place: Boston, Suffolk, Massachusetts, United States
Gender: Male
Age: 17
Birth Year (Estimated): 1894
Birthplace: Italy
Ship Name: Sannio
Affiliate Publication Number: T843
Affiliate Publication Title: Passenger Lists of Vessels Arriving at Boston, Massachusetts, 1891-1943
Affiliate Film Number: 162
GS Film Number: 001404287
Digital Folder Number: 005103180
Image Number: 00326
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Postby adelfio » 24 Oct 2013, 17:06

Looks like he is leaving Giuseppe Carnevale in Pico going to see Antonio Carnevale in Pittsfield on PG 2

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Re: New Member

Postby rgcarnevale » 24 Oct 2013, 17:10

Hi erudita74,

Yes that is the correct family.

Robert is my father.

My grandfather was married twice, first wife was Mary Renzi and 2nd wife was Irene Dailey mother of my Robert and Charles.

I will try and do a search on his mother using the spelling you provided as it is different than what is on my Grandpa's Marriage certificate.

Thanks for the responses.
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Re: New Member

Postby erudita74 » 24 Oct 2013, 17:15

adelfio wrote:Looks like he is leaving Giuseppe Carnevale in Pico going to see Antonio Carnevale in Pittsfield on PG 2

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Marty is correct. Thanks, Marty. His father Giuseppe was his closest relative in Italy.

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Postby rgcarnevale » 24 Oct 2013, 17:20

I am sorry, I just reread my post and see I was not very clear on what I am looking for direction on. I have actually found quite a bit of stuff on my Grandfather but am having trouble going back any further (finding information on his parents). Is there a site better than ancestry.com for finding information coming from Italy?
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Re: New Member

Postby erudita74 » 24 Oct 2013, 17:42

Here's a child-Filomena Carnevale- from the marriage to Mary Renzi

Filomena Carnevale, "Massachusetts, State Vital Records, 1841-1920"
Name: Filomena Carnevale
Titles and Terms:
Event Type: Birth
Event Date: 25 Jul 1917
Event Place: Pittsfield, Berkshire, Massachusetts, United States
Gender: Female
Age:
Birth Year (Estimated):
Father's Name: Domenico
Father's Titles and Terms:
Mother's Name: Mary Renzi
Mother's Titles and Terms:
Spouse's Name:
Spouse's Titles and Terms:
Spouse's Father's Name:
Spouse's Father's Titles and Terms:
Spouse's Mother's Name:
Spouse's Mother's Titles and Terms:
Certificate Number: 697
Page: 138
GS Film number:
Digital Folder Number: 005309633
Image Number: 00141

census records with first wife-

Dominic Carnaval, "United States Census, 1920"
Name: Dominic Carnaval
Titles and Terms:
Event Type: Census
Event Year: 1920
Event Place: Pittsfield Ward 2, Berkshire, Massachusetts, United States
District: 55
Gender: Male
Age: 25
Marital Status: Married
Race: White
Race (Original): White
Can Read: Yes
Can Write: Yes
Relationship to Head of Household: Head
Relationship to Head of Household (Original): Head
Own or Rent: Own
Birth Year (Estimated): 1895
Birthplace: Italy
Immigration Year: 1912
Father's Birthplace: Italy
Mother's Birthplace: Italy
Sheet Number and Letter: 7A
Household ID: 156
Line Number: 38
Affiliate Name: The U.S. National Archives and Records Administration (NARA)
Affiliate Publication Number: T625
GS Film number: 1820680
Digital Folder Number: 004301046
Image Number: 00478
Household Gender Age Birthplace
Head Dominic Carnaval M 25 Italy
Wife Mary Carnaval F 22 Italy
Daughter Philomena Carnaval F 0 Massachusetts
Sister-in-law Philomena A Conti F 18 Italy
Boarder Rose Rosserio F 25 Italy

In 1920, they were living at 137 Lincoln St.


Dominic Carnevale, "United States Census, 1930"
Name: Dominic Carnevale
Titles and Terms:
Event Type: Census
Event Year: 1930
Event Place: Pittsfield, Berkshire, Massachusetts, United States
District: 0054
Gender: Male
Age: 35
Marital Status: Married
Race: White
Race (Original): White
Relationship to Head of Household: Head
Relationship to Head of Household (Original): Head
Birth Year (Estimated): 1895
Birthplace: Italy
Immigration Year: 1920
Father's Birthplace: Italy
Mother's Birthplace: Italy
Sheet Number and Letter: 11B
Household ID: 230
Line Number: 96
Affiliate Name: The U.S. National Archives and Records Administration (NARA)
Affiliate Publication Number: T626
Affiliate Film Number: 885
GS Film number: 2340620
Digital Folder Number: 004606982
Image Number: 00568
Household Gender Age Birthplace
Head Dominic Carnevale M 35 Italy
Wife Mary Carnevale F 29 Italy
Daughter Fillomena Carnevale F 11 Massachusetts
Son Joseph Carnevale M 9 Massachusetts
Son Anthony Carnevale M 6 Massachusetts


Here's an email address for the town of Pico-which Marty said he couldn't locate-

email: comunedipico@libero.it

Possible World War I and World War II draft registration cards for Domenico-

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/T ... n683351178

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/T ... R:69049135

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Postby erudita74 » 24 Oct 2013, 18:45

Dominick Carnevale, "Massachusetts, Death Index, 1970-2003"
Name: Dominick Carnevale
Event Type: Death
Event Date: 06 Jul 1988
Event Place: Pittsfield, Massachusetts
Certificate Number: 039964
Birth Date: 12 Jul 1893
Birthplace: Other
Spouse's Name:
Spouse's Death Date:
Spouse's Death Place:
Spouse's Certificate Number:
Spouse's Birth Date:
Spouse's Birthplace:

Here's an obit for an Anthony Carnevale, son of Domenick and first wife, Mary Renzi. He had been born in 1924, according to the obit.

Anthony G. Carnevale 1924 2011 PITTSFIELD Anthony G. Carnevale, 87, died Sunday, November 6, 2011 at home, surrounded by his loving family. He was born in Pittsfield on October 24, 1924 to the late Dominick and Mary (Renzi) Carnevale. Anthony attended schools in Pittsfield and graduated from Pittsfield High School. Mr. Carnevale entered the United States Navy on January 11, 1942 and proudly served our country during World War II and the Korean Conflict. While in the military Anthony earned many awards and commendations including the World War II Victory Medal, the American Theatre Medal, the Good Conduct Medal, the China Service Medal, the Korean Service Medal and the United Nations Service Medal. Anthony was Honorably discharged from the Navy on February 7, 1963 after twenty one years of proud service. Upon his discharge, Anthony returned to Pittsfield and was former owner of the Dog House on Tyler St. He was a parishioner of the former St. Theresa's Church and was also a former member of the Italian American Club. Anthony was a sports enthusiast and had a particular love for baseball. He enjoyed cooking especially for his family during the holidays. Anthony leaves to cherish his memory, his wife of fifty-six years, Angela (Scandolaro) of Pittsfield; his son, Marco D. Carnevale of Boston; his two daughters, Toni R. Jamross and her husband, Paul of Dalton and Sylvia Lizotte of Pittsfield; his brother, Charles Carnevale of Pittsfield and his seven grandchildren. In addition to his parents, Anthony was also predeceased by his two daughters; Anita Farr in 1999 and Maria Clark in 2001; his three brothers and his sister. FUNERAL NOTICE: There will be a Funeral Home Service on Friday, November 11 at 10 a.m. at the Devanny-Condron Funeral Home 40 Maplewood Ave. Pittsfield. Burial with Military Honors will follow the Service in St. Joseph's Cemetery in Pittsfield. A calling hour will precede the Service from 9 a.m. to 10 a.m. In lieu of flowers, memorial contributions may be made in Anthony's memory, to Hospice Care in the Berkshires 877 South St. Pittsfield, MA 01201. Please visit http://www.devanny-condron.com to offer condolences or to share a memory with Anthony's family.
Published in The Berkshire Eagle on Nov. 9, 2011


obit for son of Domenick and Irene-
Robert Carnevale Sr.

PITTSFIELD -- Robert G. Carnevale Sr., 66, of Providence Court Apartments, 379 East St., died Thursday at Berkshire Medical Center. Born in Pittsfield on March 21, 1939, son of Dominick and Irene Dailey Carnevale, he was a 1956 graduate of Pittsfield High School. Mr. Carnevale was employed by GE in the former power transformer department for 30 years, retiring in 1994. He was a communicant of Mount Carmel Church and a member of the GE Quarter Century Club. He enjoyed bowling and off-track betting in New Lebanon, N.Y., and was a Boston Red Sox fan. He and his wife, the former Alice Stiles, were married Sept. 5, 1964. She died June 22, 1976. He leaves a son, Robert G. Carnevale Jr. of Pittsfield; three daughters, Cynthia Ann Nugai of Pittsfield, Stephanie Irene Carnevale of Greenville, N.C., and Sherrymarie Sweetser of Dalton; two brothers, Charles D. Carnevale and Anthony Carnevale, both of Pittsfield, and six grandchildren.
FUNERAL NOTICE -- A Liturgy of Christian Burial for Robert G. Carnevale Sr. will be celebrated Monday, May 2, 2005, at 10 at Our Lady of Mount Carmel Church by the Rev. Geoffrey J. Deeker, CSS, pastor. Burial will follow in the family lot at St. Joseph's Cemetery, Pittsfield. Calling hours will be Monday from 8:30 to 9:30 at FLYNN & DAGNOLI-BENCIVENGA FUNERAL HOME, 5 Elm St. Survivors include six grandchildren, Dominic Carnevale, Katherine Nugai, Taylor Carnevale-Somersett, and Andrew, Jared and Angel Sweetser; two sons-in-law, Scott Nugai and Dan Sweetser, and two daughters-in-law, Margaret O'Brien and Tammy Somersett. He was predeceased by two brothers, Joseph and Americo Carnevale, and by a sister, Filomena Findling. In lieu of flowers, memorial donations may be made to the American Diabetes Association in care of the funeral home.
Published in The Berkshire Eagle on Apr. 30, 2005
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Re: New Member

Postby adelfio » 24 Oct 2013, 20:34

rgcarnevale wrote:I am sorry, I just reread my post and see I was not very clear on what I am looking for direction on. I have actually found quite a bit of stuff on my Grandfather but am having trouble going back any further (finding information on his parents). Is there a site better than ancestry.com for finding information coming from Italy?


Send for Domenico Carnevale birth record and it will possible have his father and mothers ages and her maiden name
If they are born in 1860's there are civil records of Pico 1816-1865 births, marriages, deaths, miscellaneous documents, marriage documents at your nearest Family History Center that you can order and rent view and copy click on the prompts for info Once you fine them you can always post them on here for translation

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Re: New Member

Postby erudita74 » 25 Oct 2013, 05:51

The surname Ruscetta exists in Pico and should be the correct spelling of the surname

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