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Postby Michael31 » 20 Nov 2013, 21:57

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MARINO, CONNETA 7 S DESCONOCIDA CATOLICA ITALIANA ADRIA GENOVA 12/10/1885 - BUENOS AIRES DESCONOCIDO
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I am looking for the town of birth of my Great-grandmother Concetta Marino.
She was born about 1879 in Italy. I have not located any records in Argentina about her death. Concetta (Concepcion) is listed in the 1895 Buenos Aires Census. She lived on Manzana 46 in Buenos Aires.

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Re: Marino

Postby suanj » 21 Nov 2013, 11:33

Michael:
Concetta Marino was born where in Italy? you know the her mother maiden name?
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Re: Marino

Postby Michael31 » 21 Nov 2013, 16:02

Hi Suanj,
My father has always said Concetta Marino was born in Bari, Italy.
I have not found her in the Bari records. I think Lucrezia listed in the ship manifest was her mother, no known maiden name.

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Postby suanj » 21 Nov 2013, 16:07

Marino Lucreazia was a daughter of Pasquale, because Lucrezia was infant in 1886...
Most probably the famil coming from some commune in Bari province... you have no further infos? Pasquale parent's names? Pasquale wife name?
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Re: Marino

Postby Michael31 » 21 Nov 2013, 16:21

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/MWCK-Q4J
Concepcion Marino, "Argentina, National Census, 1895"
Name: Concepcion Marino
Event Place: Ciudad de Buenos Aires, Argentina
Age (Formatted in Original Language): 16 años
Birth Year (Estimated): 1879
Birth Province:
Birth Nation: Italia
Gender (Original Language): Mujer
Marital Status (Original Language): Soltera
GS Film number: 703233
Digital Folder Number: 004162421

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Re: Marino

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https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/MWW8-CR7
Pasqual Marino, "Argentina, National Census, 1895"
Name: Pasqual Marino
Event Place: Ciudad de Buenos Aires, Argentina
Age (Formatted in Original Language): 34 años
Birth Year (Estimated): 1861
Birth Province:
Birth Nation: Italia
Gender (Original Language): Varón
Marital Status (Original Language): Casado
GS Film number: 702896
Digital Folder Number: 004149096

Pasqual Marino age 34 married to Maria Tortora de Ponce age 27
Maria is not old enough to be Concetta's Mother.



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Pascual Marino, "Argentina, National Census, 1895"
Name: Pascual Marino
Event Place: Partido Necochea, Buenos Aires, Argentina
Age (Formatted in Original Language): 34 años
Birth Year (Estimated): 1861
Birth Province:
Birth Nation: Italia
Gender (Original Language): Varón
Marital Status (Original Language): Soltero
GS Film number: 732604
Digital Folder Number: 004160904

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Re: Marino

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Re: Marino

Postby suanj » 21 Nov 2013, 17:07

Yes Michael I have seen these documents, but no helpfuls for the search... just the Concetta mother's maiden name can be helpful almost for to have a idea abt the possible boirthplace.. you said that Concetta Marino was your Great-grandmother.. she immigrated in USA also after Argentina?
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Re: Marino

Postby Michael31 » 21 Nov 2013, 17:13

Concetta Marino died in Argentina (death between 1903-1910)
Concetta lived on Manzana 46 in Buenos Aires, but I cannot find that street on a map. I might be able to find confirmation records if I find the right church.

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Re: Marino

Postby Michael31 » 13 Dec 2013, 08:37

http://www.theshipslist.com/ships/lines/srpf.shtml

Vessel Built Years in Service Tons 2,665
Adria 1854 built by Caird & Co., Greenock | ex- Etna built for Cunard, 1860 sold Inman Line not renamed, 1871 rebuilt 2,655 grt renamed City of Bristol, 1881 sold to Marques de Campo, Spain renamed Mexico, 1882 sold to Italy renamed Messico, 1883 sold to Raffaele Rubattino renamed Sempione, 1884 purchased renamed Adria, 1885 sold to Navigazione Generale Italiana (NGI), 1896 scrapped.


The Navigazione Generale Italiana began a South American service in November 1884 and took Riaggio & Co. over in January 1885 and Rocco Piaggio & Figli in July of the same year.

Many thanks to Henk Jungerius and Ted Finch for their assistance in collecting this data. The following list was extracted from various sources. This is not an all inclusive list but should only be used as a guide. If you would like to know more about a vessel, visit the Ship Descriptions (onsite) or Immigrant Ship web site.

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Genoa via the Canaries to Montevideo and Buenos Aires
1883: Genoa- River Plate (with Societa Italiano di Trasporti Marittimi Raggio & Co.).


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Re: Marino

Postby suanj » 13 Dec 2013, 10:57

Michael, here the 1892 Buenos Aires map
http://www.davidrumsey.com/luna/servlet ... to+Federal
the Manzana 46, I understand that is apartment block;

by familyesearch:
Sección 13 (Tomo 548) Subdivisiones 1 (Hotel de Inmigrantes; Inquilinato - calle Libertad; calles Paraguay, Cerri- to), 2, 3 (calles Arenales, Santa Fe, Cerrito, Libertad), 4, 5; manzana 7; subdivisiones 8, 9.

so we know that in "seccion 13 was the Hotel de los Imigrantes, near the Buenos Aires port ( to see 1892 map)

Manzana 46:
Sección 13 (Tomo 553) Manzanas 42, 43, 44, 45, 46, 47, 48, 49, 50, 51, 52.
in Manzana 46 lived Concetta Marino and it is the last part of Seccion 13-Tomo 543.. so must be near:

Sección 14 (Tomo 554) Manzanas 1 (calles Perú, Independencia, Chaca buco y Estados Unidos), 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8.

and in this seccion are some street names; the avenida Independencia on the 1892 map is in the rectangle where you read the big word "FLORES" (San Jose de Flores) and in particular in the high part of rectangle with "RES" (part of Flores word)..
I believe that the Manzana 46 was in the a rectangle on the 1892 map between Hotel the los Imigrantes and the rectangle with big "RES" printed on...
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Re: Marino

Postby Michael31 » 14 Dec 2013, 04:37

Thanks for the map. I am still looking for an old church built before 1885 in Almirante Brown, near Barrio Don Orione.

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Postby suanj » 14 Dec 2013, 10:41

Michael you are searching for Almirante brown but in 1895, Almirante Brown is a department of Buenos Aires
https://familysearch.org/search/image/i ... %3D1410078
instead Concetta Marino - 1895 record is in Ciudad of Buenos Aires (Buenos Aires city)
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/T ... c=11765270
as I said, Manzana is a generic word meaning apartment block...

if you see the map in 1892:
http://www.davidrumsey.com/luna/servlet ... to+Federal

and the map of 1895 census with all "secciones"
http://genargentina.com.ar/pdfs/censo-1895.pdf
to see pag 19
well the seccion 13 on this map ist is the same that in 1892 is near "Hotel de los Imigrantes" and "Plaza G. Martin" and "Est. Retiro"

that in current era is here https://maps.google.it/maps?q=avenida+d ... CAgQ_AUoAg
Estacion Retiro, Plaza Canada, and Av. de los Imigrantes where in 1892 was the Hotel de los Imigrantes
just it need of to find a catolic church here... what you are searching for, Manzana 46, Almirante Brown near Barrio Don Orione is wrong... just my opinion,
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