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Surname Palermo-Ferraro,-searching birthplace

Postby reportergal » 27 Dec 2013, 06:12

Hi,
I am researching the Palermo- Ferraro side of my family. I believe they were born and married in a town around Cosenza, Italy. They came to the US between 1900-1903. I would appreciate any information that you can help me find.
Grazie, Karen

Antonio (Anthony) Palermo- born 1872?,
death: Aug. 24th, 1950- Philadelphia, Pa

Rose Ferraro (possibly Maria Rosa) -Sept. 8th, 1877
death: April 21st, 1948 Philadelphia, PA

Married 1895 ? in Italy

Lived in Philadelphia, PA
children:
Angelino
Anna
Frank
Frederick
Viola
Amie

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Re: Surname Palermo-Ferraro,-searching birthplace

Postby suanj » 27 Dec 2013, 11:49

Hi, abt your Antonio Palermo
U.S., World War I Draft Registration Cards, 1917-1918 about Toney Palermo
Name: Toney Palermo
City: Philadelphia
County: Philadelphia
State: Pennsylvania
Birthplace: Italy
Race: Caucasian (White)
Draft Board: 22
no birthdate (no able to specify) born in "Sumarca, Italy" birthplace mispelled...
clearly....
maybe San Marco Argentano, Cosenza province, but I cannot find his birth record in San Marco Argentano around 1870/1/2, just one but born in 1866..
married 2 times: first wife: Rosina Mazziotta; second wife: Rosa Maria De Napoli
but you said that her maiden name was Ferraro so cannot be right Antonio...

by 1930 census:
1930 United States Federal Census about Antonio Palermo
Name: Antonio Palermo
Gender: Male
Birth Year: abt 1873
Birthplace: Italy
Race: White
Home in 1930: Philadelphia, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania
Map of Home: View map
Marital Status: Married
Immigration Year: 1900
Relation to Head of House: Head
Spouse's Name: Rose Palermo
Father's Birthplace: Italy
Mother's Birthplace: Italy
Occupation:

Education:

Military Service:

Rent/home value:

Age at first marriage:

Parents' birthplace:

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Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Antonio Palermo 57
Rose Palermo 54
Fred Palermo 23
John Palermo 21
Helen Palermo 18
Viola Palermo 13
Mary Palermo 22


and 1920 census:

1920 United States Federal Census about Anthony Palermo
Name: Anthony Palermo
Age: 46
Birth Year: abt 1874
Birthplace: Italy
Home in 1920: Philadelphia Ward 36, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania
Race: White
Gender: Male
Immigration Year: 1895
Relation to Head of House: Head
Marital Status: Married
Spouse's Name: Rosia Palermo
Father's Birthplace: Italy
Mother's Birthplace: Italy
Able to Read: No
Able to Write: No
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Household Members:
Name Age
Anthony Palermo 46
Rosia Palermo 43
Angele* Palermo 21 b. IT
Annie Palermo 16 b. PA
Frankie Palermo 14 "
Fred Palermo 12 "
John Palermo 9 "
Helen Palermo 7 "
Viola Palermo 3 "
Amia Palermo 0 "
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1910:
1910 United States Federal Census about Antonio Palemo
Name: Antonio Palemo
[Antonio Palerno]
Age in 1910: 36
Birth Year: abt 1874
Birthplace: Italy
Home in 1910: Philadelphia Ward 36, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania
Race: White
Gender: Male
Immigration Year: 1901
Relation to Head of House: Head
Marital Status: Married
Spouse's Name: Rose Palerno
Father's Birthplace: Italy
Mother's Birthplace: Italy
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Household Members:
Name Age
Antonio Palemo 36
Rose Palerno 34
Angelina Palerno 11
Anna Palerno 8
Frank Palerno 5
Fredrick Palerno 2
John Palerno 0
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it is a mystery where and when Antonio Palermo was born...
I found a possible arrival:
First Name: Antonio
Last Name: Palermo
Ethnicity: Italy, Italian
Last Place of Residence: S. Denato (San Donato di Ninea, Cosenza province)
Date of Arrival: Jan 20, 1900
Age at Arrival: 27 Gender: M Marital Status: M
Ship of Travel: La Normandie
Port of Departure: Havre
Manifest Line Number: 0018
joining at brother Giuseppe in Philadelphia
http://www.ellisisland.org/EIFile/popup ... &line=0018
and San Donato di Ninea is the right birthplace of first daughter, because I found the birthact of Angela Palermo born in San Donato di Ninea on 2 Apr 1899 #29 from Antonio Palermo 26 old, farmer and Rosa Ferraro:
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/T ... n685382398

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Re: Surname Palermo-Ferraro,-searching birthplace

Postby reportergal » 27 Dec 2013, 14:36

Grazie! I first researched everything I could find in San Marco Argentano, but it was the wrong family. After digging around and calling lost relatives, who do not know the exact town, but felt it was around Consenza. That was a big help finding the birth record for their daughter! That must be the correct ship record as he had a brother by that name.

There was some talk that Rose was a hard core Sicilian, but I have found no evidence of her parents to track that.

I will keep searching for their marriage certificate, birth certificate for both Antonio and Rose, and the ship Rose came to the US on. I know she arrived a few years after Antonio.

Thanks for your help! Karen

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Re: Surname Palermo-Ferraro,-searching birthplace

Postby adelfio » 27 Dec 2013, 15:12

Great work Suanj!!!
Marriage of Antonio Palermo and Rosa Ferraro
INDEX#5
1898 May 12th in the town of San Donato di Ninea appeared Antonio Palermo age 25 farmer born in San Donato di Ninea son of deceased Francesco Palermo and Angela Salva married Rosa Filomena Ferraro age 22 farmer born in San Donato di Ninea daughter of Raffaele Ferraro and Palma Panebianco

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https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/T ... 1678758200

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Re: Surname Palermo-Ferraro,-searching birthplace

Postby adelfio » 27 Dec 2013, 15:30

INDEX#50
1872 April 6th in the town of San Donato di Ninea birth of Antonio Palermo son of Francesco Palermo age 36 farmer (son of Giuseppe Palermo)and wife Angela Salva daughter of Palma

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https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/T ... n685382398

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Re: Surname Palermo-Ferraro,-searching birthplace

Postby suanj » 27 Dec 2013, 15:35

thanks for add the other records!
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Re: Surname Palermo-Ferraro,-searching birthplace

Postby reportergal » 27 Dec 2013, 15:42

Wow, that I such great work! I appreciate your kindness and effort. I have been searching for these pieces for a year. Fantastic, thank you both for this wonderful research.

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Re: Surname Palermo-Ferraro,-searching birthplace

Postby reportergal » 27 Dec 2013, 16:44

Again, suanj and Marty...that is such great work. Marty are you related to this Palermo family? Is San Donato di Ninea a good commune to work with to extract these records? I plan to write, with help, a letter in Italian to the commune.

Thanks, Karen

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Re: Surname Palermo-Ferraro,-searching birthplace

Postby reportergal » 28 Dec 2013, 03:41

Translation help: I am investigating the second page of the matrimonial certificate...I can understand some Italian, but about half way down I see the name Mauro, Rosa....would that be a maid-of-honor, or a person related to the family? I would like to understand what the name is doing on the document. Thanks.

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Re: Surname Palermo-Ferraro,-searching birthplace

Postby suanj » 28 Dec 2013, 10:53

Ferraro Filomena was called( from all) Rosa (instead of Filomena real first name):
"2° Ferraro Filomena, comunemente Rosa, di anni ventidue, contadina, nata a San Donato di Ninea, residente a San Donato di Ninea, figlia di Raffaele, residente a San Donato di Ninea, e di Panebianco Palma, residente a San Donato di Ninea." The witnesses was Bisignani Raffaele and Gabrielli Giuseppe..
I no see a Mauro on the document...
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Re: Surname Palermo-Ferraro,-searching birthplace

Postby reportergal » 02 Jan 2014, 06:39

In the 1930 census it says that Antonio's status was Italian.... I once thought he naturalized in 1922, but I now believe it to be the wrong person. I believe his wife, Rosa naturalized in 1933 in Philadelphia. Do you find this to be the case as well? You would think that they would naturalize together.
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Postby suanj » 02 Jan 2014, 10:26

sorry I know not.. it are some Antonio Palermo naturalization in Pennsylvania on ancestry.com, but 2 records are no abt your ancestors.. that is sure because these Antonio Palermo was more youngs of your Antonio.. the other records.. are no data, just the name so it is hard to say if the Antonio Palermo naturalized in 1923 is the right person... I believe he no naturalized, just Rose, his wife in 1933:
U.S. Naturalization Record Indexes, 1791-1992 (Indexed in World Archives Project) about Rose Palermo
Name: Rose Palermo
Birth Date: abt 1877
Age at event: 56
Court District: Pennsylvania
Date of Action: 17 Apr 1933
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Re: Surname Palermo-Ferraro,-searching birthplace

Postby reportergal » 02 Jan 2014, 14:56

Thanks for the confirmation. I will take a closer look as well. Rose's name on the ship manifest is Filomena, she traveled with Angela, the baby. I am grateful for your help.
Grazie!

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Re: Surname Palermo-Ferraro,-searching birthplace

Postby adelfio » 03 Jan 2014, 15:55

reportergal wrote:Again, suanj and Marty...that is such great work. Marty are you related to this Palermo family? Is San Donato di Ninea a good commune to work with to extract these records? I plan to write, with help, a letter in Italian to the commune.

Thanks, Karen


No Im not related to Palermo family. I would use the records online at familysearch.org first before I write to San Donato di Ninea

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