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Malandra Help Finding Birth Certificate

Postby malandroaz » 13 Jan 2014, 00:40

Hello,

I am having real trouble finding my GGF birth certificate. I believe he was born in casalincontrada based on WWI draft card. I requested the micro film from the time frame I believe his birth. 1881-1886. Did not find any eugenio malandra in the microfilm from Caslinecontrada.


Eugenio Malandra. I have seen 2 draft cards with the same name (born same town) but 2 years apart. 1884 and 1886. My GGF settled down in New Castle, PA.

Any help would be great. I am lost :(

My grandfather name is Rudolph Malandro

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Re: Malandra Help Finding Birth Certificate

Postby Italysearcher » 13 Jan 2014, 10:09

https://familysearch.org/search/catalog ... %20Library
Microfilms are available.
You can find tips on searching and translations on my website.
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Re: Malandra Help Finding Birth Certificate

Postby malandroaz » 13 Jan 2014, 15:55

I looked through the microfilm did not see it but doesnt mean it was there. This microfilm is very hard to read for me. If I cannot read the microfilm what other options are there? I paid ICAP but I feel that it was a waste and lots of money as I did not get any customer service or results.

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Re: Malandra Help Finding Birth Certificate

Postby adelfio » 13 Jan 2014, 16:24

Lets try to find a close birth date for Eugenio Malandra
His shipmanifest says born 1887 coming from Casalincontrada and if you look down the list there is also a Nicola Malandra coming from Casalincontrada they are both going to Philadelphia to see Filippo D'Alessandro

PG LINK TO SHIP MANIFEST LINE#13
http://www.ellisisland.org/EIFile/popup ... &line=0013

Here is a marked Italian birth record to help you find the birth act of Eugenio on the film make copy of it and take it with you
CLICK OF IMAGE TO ENLARGE

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Re: Malandra Help Finding Birth Certificate

Postby malandroaz » 13 Jan 2014, 21:35

I will go back on the film and see if I can find it. I go back this Tuesday to look.

The picture you attached will help a lot.

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Re: Malandra Help Finding Birth Certificate

Postby malandroaz » 13 Jan 2014, 21:40

Also could Eugenio be his middle name? And he did not go by first name but his middle.

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Re: Malandra Help Finding Birth Certificate

Postby Tessa78 » 15 Jan 2014, 03:15

Can you post the WWI draft card?

EDIT: Found this...
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/T ... :804949169

However, I do not believe this is the correct Eugene Malandro.

I believe I have located the 1920 Census for your GGF's family in New Castle, PA
Wife, Angeline, and children, Clara (age 9), Joe (age 8) and Albert (age 4y 6m)
That means in 1917 (the date of the WWI card above) Eugene would have had three children.

Is this your GGF's family?

1920 United States Federal Census about Eugene Malandro
Name: Eugene Malandro
[Eugene Malandra]
Age: 36
Birth Year: abt 1884
Birthplace: Italy
Home in 1920: New Castle Ward 5, Lawrence, Pennsylvania
Race: White
Gender: Male
Immigration Year: 1905
Relation to Head of House: Head
Marital Status: Married
Spouse's Name: Angeline Malandro
Father's Birthplace: Italy
Mother's Birthplace: Italy
Home Owned: Own
Able to Read: No
Able to Write: No
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Eugene Malandro 36
Angeline Malandro 28
Clara Malandro 9
Joe Malandro 8
Albert Malandro 4
[4 1/12]

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Re: Malandra Help Finding Birth Certificate

Postby malandroaz » 16 Jan 2014, 07:17

That is where I get confused to? Who is this Eugenio Malandra that lived in NJ but from the same little town in Italy? Could it be the same person? My GGF?

I went through the microfilm from that town yesterday and the only Eugenio Malandra on record is Eugenio Malandra born 1886 Sept. On the birth certificate the mother name is Maria. I know that my GGF Eugenio mother name was Maria.
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Re: Malandra Help Finding Birth Certificate

Postby malandroaz » 16 Jan 2014, 07:22

Found on microfilm Casalin
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Re: Malandra Help Finding Birth Certificate

Postby malandroaz » 16 Jan 2014, 07:23

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Re: Malandra Help Finding Birth Certificate

Postby malandroaz » 16 Jan 2014, 07:23

Can anyone make sense of this?

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Re: Malandra Help Finding Birth Certificate

Postby liviomoreno » 16 Jan 2014, 07:55

malandroaz wrote:Can anyone make sense of this?

Duplicate, see post205334.html#p205334

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Re: Malandra Help Finding Birth Certificate

Postby adelfio » 16 Jan 2014, 15:56

When you are researching be open minded with your years of birth on USA records they tend to be off especialy census.Did Eugenio have any siblings you can check for the same parents with the films you have.
Livio translated your birth record on translations posts

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Re: Malandra Help Finding Birth Certificate

Postby Tessa78 » 16 Jan 2014, 16:06

adelfio wrote:When you are researching be open minded with your years of birth on USA records they tend to be off especialy census.Did Eugenio have any siblings you can check for the same parents with the films you have.
Livio translated your birth record on translations posts

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As Marty has said... be flexible in your thinking about US documents' facts, especially dates.

I believe, seeing Livio's translation, that you have found the birth record you were searching for.

:-)

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Re: Malandra Help Finding Birth Certificate

Postby malandroaz » 16 Jan 2014, 21:14

Thanks everyone. I am going to go deeper back and to the side family tree.

Here is interesting thing I found. Eugenio father came to visit him one time in the USA.

https://www.ellisisland.org/search/ship ... 167030144&

Can anyone read the person that was with him? I cant make out the writing.


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