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looking BETTACCHI giuseppe

Postby corrado-c » 09 Feb 2014, 15:40

hello to all,
I am looking for Bettacchi Giuseppe
is the brother of my mother's great-grandfather (Parcaroli)
emigrated to America in about 1900, it was Marches.
in America he married Mary (do not know last name)
looking for on the site EllisIsland I found only 1 arrived in 1905 at age 22.
I only have a photo of him taken by a photographer philadelphia

how can I look for her grandchildren?

my searches have stopped at this link
http://www.whitepages.com/name/Perry-R- ... PA/4tnhm3w
but I can not contact you, someone you can call him? I do not even speak English :\
I use the google translator :)

other link
http://www.peoplefinders.com/search/sea ... tent=email
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Re: looking BETTACCHI giuseppe

Postby suanj » 10 Feb 2014, 13:08

Hi, I found his naturalization:
Pennsylvania, U.S. Naturalization Originals, 1795-1930 about Giuseppe Bettacchi
Name: Giuseppe Bettacchi
Age: 42
Birth Date: 9 Apr 1873
Birth Location: Italy
Naturalization Date: 24 Jun 1915
Spouse Name: Maria
Children: Giovanina (born in Roma), Cesira, Vienna, Paris ( all born in Philadelphia)
Arrival year: 1906
Court Type: District Court
Court Location: Eastern District, Pennsylvania
his wife was Maria born in Viterbo...
it is the same person that you are searching for?
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Re: looking BETTACCHI giuseppe

Postby suanj » 10 Feb 2014, 13:12

by a public genealogic tree some infos but with some discrepancies:

Giuseppe Bettacchi
Birth 19 Mar 1870 in Camerino, Macerata, , Italy
Death 30 Apr 1954 in Philadelphia, , PA

wife:
Maria Cargiani
Birth 19 Nov 1876 in Grotte, Santo Stefano, , Italy
Death 7 Mar 1967 in Philadelphia, , PA

the daughter:

Vienna Emma Bettacchi
Birth 21 Feb 1912 in Philadelphia, , PA
Death 15 Sep 1982 in Philadelphia, , PA
Vienna husband:

Giocondo Marcelli
Birth 22 Oct 1905 in Fuminata, Italy
Death 18 Nov 1964 in Philadelphia, PA
the owner of this public genealogic tree is:
lionlady_1 you can contact by ancestry.com
http://trees.ancestry.com/tree/265465/p ... 2102303574
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Re: looking BETTACCHI giuseppe

Postby corrado-c » 10 Feb 2014, 14:24

thank you!!!!!!!!!
I think they are the people I'm looking for!
Now I talk about with my relatives!!!!
is possible to get information Giovannina Cesira and Paris Bettacchi?
at least I can find their children.

P.S. parli italiano? :)
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Re: looking BETTACCHI giuseppe

Postby suanj » 10 Feb 2014, 17:02

Certo che parlo italiano! Sono italiana!
Allora ecco i dati del matrimonio di Giuseppe:
Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, Marriage Index, 1885-1951 about Giuseppe Bettacchi
Name: Giuseppe Bettacchi
Gender: Male
Spouse: Maria Cargiani
Spouse Gender: Female
Marriage Place: Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, United States
Marriage Year: 1912
Marriage License Number:
284889
Digital GSU Number: 4140386


Non so come mai Giovannina Bettacchi possa essere nata a Roma
e penso che questo sia il matrimonio di Giovannina :
Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, Marriage Index, 1885-1951 about Anthony Corso
Name: Anthony Corso
Gender: Male
Spouse: Jennie Bettacchi
Spouse Gender: Female
Marriage Place: Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, United States
Marriage Year: 1929
Marriage License Number:
583362

Digital GSU Number: 4141644

lei era nata il 26 Dicembre 1905, ed è arrivata negli USA nel 1907, ecco il viaggio della madre con la piccola Giovanna Bettacchi:
New York, Passenger Lists, 1820-1957 about Maria Cargiani
Name: Maria Cargiani
Arrival Date: 10 Jun 1907
Birth Date: abt 1876
Birth Location Other: mugnano
Age: 31
Gender: Female
Port of Departure: Napoli
Port of Arrival: New York, New York
Ship Name: Sannio

va dal marito Giuseppe Bettacchi a Philadelphia... se erano già sposati perchè si sono risposati anche negli USA? mah.....! Penso che il luogo di nascita Muugnano si riferisca alla frazione Mugnano del Comune di Bomarzo in provincia di Viterbo....

nel censimento del 1930 Giovannina/Jennie non c'è perchè sposata nel 1929 ...:
1930 United States Federal Census about Joseph Bettacchi
Name: Joseph Bettacchi
Gender: Male
Birth Year: abt 1874
Birthplace: Italy
Race: White
Home in 1930: Philadelphia, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania
Map of Home: View Map
Marital status: Married
Immigration Year: 1905
Relation to Head of House: Head
Spouse's Name: Mary Bettacchi
Father's Birthplace: Italy
Mother's Birthplace: Italy
Occupation:

Education:

Military Service:

Rent/home value:

Age at first marriage:

Parents' birthplace:

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Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Joseph Bettacchi 56
Mary Bettacchi 54
Paris Bettacchi 15
Raymond Bettacchi 13


così sappiamo che Giuseppe aveva 3 figlie e 2 figli.....

l'ultimo, Raymond Bettacchi era già sposato nel 1940:
1940 United States Federal Census about Raymond Bettacchi
Name: Raymond Bettacchi
Age: 24
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1916
Gender: Male
Race: White
Birthplace: Pennsylvania
Marital status: Married
Relation to Head of House: Head
Home in 1940: Philadelphia, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania
Map of Home in 1940: View Map
Street: Opal Street
House Number: 2850
Farm: No
Inferred Residence in 1935: Philadelphia, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania
Residence in 1935: Same Place
Resident on farm in 1935: No
Sheet Number: 7B
Number of Household in Order of Visitation: 131
Occupation: Lather Hand
House Owned or Rented: Rented
Value of Home or Monthly Rental if Rented: 20
Attended School or College: No
Highest Grade Completed: High School, 2nd year
Hours Worked Week Prior to Census: 40
Duration of Unemployment: 0
Class of Worker: Wage or salary worker in private work
Weeks Worked in 1939: 52
Income: 1100
Income Other Sources: No
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age

Raymond Bettacchi 24
Mary Bettacchi 25

defunto nel 1981:
NAME: Raymond Bettacchi
BIRTH: 6 Aug 1916
DEATH: Jan 1981 - Philadelphia, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, USA
CIVIL: Pennsylvania
OTHER: Philadelphia, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, United States of America


Paris si doveva far chiamare Perry, perchè è l'unico probabile e si è sposato nel 1941:
Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, Marriage Index, 1885-1951 about Perry Bettacchi
Name: Perry Bettacchi
Gender: Male
Spouse: Mary Parone
Spouse Gender: Female
Marriage Place: Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, United States
Marriage Year: 1941

Marriage License Number: 731249
Digital GSU Number: 4141861

defunto nel 1974:
NAME: Perry Bettacchi
BIRTH: 21 Sep 1914
DEATH: Feb 1974
CIVIL: Pennsylvania


di Vienna sappiamo ma ho trovato un necrologio di un suo figlio:

Giocondo (Jack) Marcelli,83, of Roswell passed away on Saturday, June 16, 2012. He was born in Philadelphia, PA on July 1, 1928 to Giocondo Marcelli and Vienna Bettacchi Marcelli, he was the first of three children. Jacks parents and sisters precede him in death. Giocondo Marcelli, Jr, nicknamed Jack, served his country with pride and honor during WWII, Korea, and Vietnam. Since childhood he dreamed of enlisting in the U.S. Navy a dream which was fulfilled. His career ended in 1966 retiring from the Navy as a Chief Petty Officer. Jack served on various ships that sailed the Pacific Ocean, Atlantic Ocean, Mediterranean Sea, North Sea, Baltic Sea, Caribbean Sea, and Arctic Ocean. He served in Guam where Japanese soldiers did not know the war had ended and was still hiding in the hills trying to continue the fight. In addition to serving on many ships, Jack had a tour of duty with a Naval Mobile Construction Battalion that constructed a Naval Facility in Barbados, West Indies. Later remaining there as his duty station. Jack was awarded the World War II Victory Medal, American Area Campaign Medal, National Defense Service Medal, Occupation Service Medal, and five awards of the Good Conduct Medal. After retiring from the Navy, he and his family made their home in Virginia Beach, VA where he was actively involved in his Church and Community. Jack attended Community college and received his AS degree in business administration. He went to work for a national nursing home management company as vice president of accounting functions. Upon retiring from that position, Jack and his wife Jill moved to Roswell, where he took up volunteering for Sunday Church Services at the Juvenile detention center. Later he took a position with the State of New Mexico teaching math to students trying to get their GED, at the Chaves County Career Center. His primary interest in retirement was to minister to Juvenile prisoners, teaching them the values of a better life. Jack first married in 1951, Annie Niegocki, she passed away in 1978. Together they had six children,five of whom are still living. They are Louis and Larry Marcelli, Lorraine Taylor, Gina Theisen, and Anna Marie Sparrow. Jack remarried in 1982 to Jill Mounts Marcelli and added two step-daughters to the family, Dusty James and Celia Morgan. The children are scattered and live in Texas, Florida, North Carolina, Virginia, and Maryland. In addition to the seven children, Jack leaves behind twelve grandchildren, and five great-grandchildren. A memorial mass will be held at 10 am Thursday, June 28, 2012 at St. Peters Catholic Church with Father Charlie Martinez officiating. Interment to follow in St. Peters Columbarium.

Quindi i nipoti di Vienna sono:
Louis and Larry Marcelli, Lorraine Taylor, Gina Theisen, and Anna Marie Sparrow. Penso che potresti trovarli sull'elenco telefonico... o se ti impegni su google potresti trovare una loro email.... questo è l'unico modo perchè i dati sono protetti dalla privacy, e quindi solo se loro stessi li mettono in rete puoi trovare qualcosa....
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Re: looking BETTACCHI giuseppe

Postby corrado-c » 10 Feb 2014, 17:16

grazie mille!!!!!! :)
non pensavo di trovare tante notizie :D
è stata gentilissima!!

pensi che con queste informazioni ho scoperto che Giocondo Marcelli, marito della figlia di Giuseppe Bettacchi, è nato dove io vivo ora! che coincidenze!
se trovo i loro discendenti qui, forse hanno già dei contatti con i nipoti in america :)
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Re: looking BETTACCHI giuseppe

Postby suanj » 10 Feb 2014, 17:29

felice di averti aiutato, buona fortuna per il proseguo....
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