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Re: born somewhere in calabria

Postby tjcort » 28 Sep 2005, 05:14

HELP

I now have confoirmation from Nicastro, that My Antonio was born in
Nicastro ora Lamezia Terme .

According to the record from them, his father was Bruno and mother was Maria Rosa Scalise.

However, they show his birthdate as 09 Augusto 1874.....which is different than everythiing that I have on his USA documents which show July 1876.

Can you please see if you can locate him on a manifest now using 1874 as his DOB rather than 1876 and 1878 which I have used as the basis for everything in the past.

I have an appt with the NY Italian Consulate on Oct 12 th.

I'm dying here


Please !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Re: born somewhere in calabria

Postby mfjp » 28 Sep 2005, 06:38

Hi Stranger! :P

This is his dad's record.... travels with son Luigi and daughter Giuseppa.... off to PA to join Antonio...on 7 St. Cristian St.

First Name: Bruno
Last Name: Cortese
Ethnicity: Italy, South
Last Place of Residence: Nicastro, Catanzaro
Date of Arrival: Sep 05, 1906
Age at Arrival:  72y    Gender:  M    Marital Status:  M  
Ship of Travel: Citta di Milano
Port of Departure: Napoli
Manifest Line Number: 0021

http://www.ellisisland.org/search/shipm ... 2286050043

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Am looking for Antionio's manifest... Steve Morse's site is down :?
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P.S. Trish provided this info earlier on... just reviewing all the notes...
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Re: born somewhere in calabria

Postby tjcort » 28 Sep 2005, 06:59

correct as usual.....that's Antonio's father

But how the heck did Antonio get here and when ... and how did his DOB change from August 1874 in Italy to July of 1876 once he arrived here.... something lost intranslation by that much ??????????
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Re: born somewhere in calabria

Postby mfjp » 28 Sep 2005, 18:17

Can you review the info you have on Antonio's first wife... since we haven't heard from you in a bit....

Christina was his second wife, they married here in Morton ( Delaware County ) PA after Maria died. Unfortunately, I know nothing about Maria nor no I know either of their last names and there are no relatives that can lend any assistance. My father's step-brothers were in the Southern NJ area at one time.
Bruno is definately a name that I have heard from the past


I know this is an old quote... but I just want to make sure about Maria's surname... whether DiBlasi is still accurate...
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Re: born somewhere in calabria

Postby tjcort » 29 Sep 2005, 18:57

To summarize:
Antonio Cortese born 16 July 1876 in Calabria per my records BUT per the records from Nicastro born August 1874.
Date and port of immigration unknown.
First wife was Maria DiBlasi, date and place of marriage unknown , however the marriage was disolved by Maria's death in 1909)
Second wife was Cristina Pacuzzi ( I have the marriage license )

Per the 1920 Census,

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Antonio - immigration 1897.....could be 1891
Christina - age 22 - immigration 1911
Lena - daughter - 4 1/2 -
Louis - son - 3 1/2
Biaso - son - 7 1/2
Rose - stepdaughter – 15 (child from first marriage)
Antonio - son – 13 (child from first marriage)
Bruno - son – 12 (child from first marriage)

*Note: Antonio used the naming patterning by naming his one son, Bruno after his father, Bruno (per the ship’s manifest) and the daughter, Rosa, after his mother (per the 1910 Census)

***Note: On the 1920 Census his brother, Bruno, is listed just below Antonio. Bruno also named his children after his parents, Bruno and Rosa. Also, Bruno’s ship’s manifest stated he was going to see his brother, Antonio.



Here's the 1910 census...

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The children of Antonio and his first wife, Maria are the following.

Tony Cortese - already a widow
Rosie - daughter, age 5
Antonio - son, age 3
Bruno -son, age 1.5

This census states he is already a widow which was verified from the Marriage Certificate of Antonio and Cristina which states Maria died in 1909.

The children match up to the “stepchildrenâ€Â
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Re: born somewhere in calabria

Postby mfjp » 29 Sep 2005, 19:26

Thanks for the summary... I printed all the pages from this post to review again.

My question now is.... where did you get the name Maria DiBlasi?? Where did this info come from?? This is the "brick wall" on my end of this search...

I have been reviewing the Antonio's born 1874/75 and two in particular extensively...
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One Antonio was married to an Anna Cevole (travels with a 3 year old son)
Manifests for both have been located...
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The other Antonio is related to the Caruso's and the Chirumbolo's... address of interest here is 22 Carmel Street, also place of interest is Mayfield, PA...
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Tom, I know this means a lot to you, hang in... with the new birthdate, we now have new lines to review.
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Also, Name: Christina Cortese (Pascuzzi SSN: 202-40-5119 Last Residence: 19146  Philadelphia, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, United States of America Born: 17 May 1894 Died: Dec 1967 State (Year) SSN issued: Pennsylvania (1966 ) Is this your Grandmother?
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Hoping that any on these new surnames ring a bell.
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Re: born somewhere in calabria

Postby tjcort » 29 Sep 2005, 19:42

Maira " DiBlasi" .... I'm not totally sure of the spelling, comes from my family's recollection of his first wife. Its also my understanding that she is buried in Delaware County PA, with Antonio and his second wife Christina.

Other than that, I have nothing more on maria.

Also, to the best of my recollection, my family setted in the South Philadelphia area mostly but Antonio's brother's son Tony ran a marina in Southern New Jersey. I don't hink there is any Western PA or Pittsburgh connection

Thanks
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Re: born somewhere in calabria

Postby mfjp » 29 Sep 2005, 20:04

Its also my understanding that she is buried in Delaware County PA, with Antonio and his second wife Christina.


Same cemetery? Do you know where the cemetery is?

I think it is important to verify the first wife's name...

Can you contact the cemetery?
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Re: born somewhere in calabria

Postby tjcort » 29 Sep 2005, 20:49

Yes, I've seen it but her name is not on the marker.... I need to check with the cemertaryian to see
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Re: born somewhere in calabria

Postby tjcort » 29 Sep 2005, 22:36

yep, you've ID'ed my grandmother, Christina,

does the record show where she was born in Italy or when she arrived in the US
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Re: born somewhere in calabria

Postby mfjp » 29 Sep 2005, 23:23

yep, you've ID'ed my grandmother, Christina,

does the record show where she was born in Italy or when she arrived in the US


No - for both... I am only viewing text data information (exactly what I posted earlier) from Ancestry.com

The age on her 1920 census record was off ... she was born in 1894 and not 1898...

If you want further info, you would have to send for a copy of the SSDI application...

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Re: born somewhere in calabria

Postby tjcort » 29 Sep 2005, 23:42

I thought we established that this was christina :

http://www.ellisisland.org/search/shipM ... F&fromEI=1
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Re: born somewhere in calabria

Postby tjcort » 29 Sep 2005, 23:47

ya know, its funny that when I wrote to the US Courthouse in Philadelphia using the number above her name on the previous manifest that they sent me info on another Cristina that did not even match the information on the manifest.

Perhaps they ignored the # and just researched the name.

If the US courhouse in Philadelphia did not have a record using the number above the manifest , is it possible that the City of Philadelphia may have a record locally ????
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Re: born somewhere in calabria

Postby mfjp » 30 Sep 2005, 00:00

Yes... I was looking at that info on page 7 of the post (Cristina's manifest) while watching my virandah chairs fly around outside... quite the windstorm out there...

There happens to to another Christina Cortese (married name) in PA who's birthdate was 1898...?

Your Cristina had only been in the USA for 2 months before she married... if that is the correct manifest.

First Name: Cristina (born 1894)
Last Name: Pascuzzo
Ethnicity: Italian South
Last Place of Residence: Acri, Italy
Date of Arrival: Sep 23, 1912
Age at Arrival:  18y    Gender:  F    Marital Status:  S  
Ship of Travel: Stampalia
Port of Departure: Napoli
Manifest Line Number: 0001

If the US courhouse in Philadelphia did not have a record using the number above the manifest , is it possible that the City of Philadelphia may have a record locally ????


Don't know... Trish?? VanDeb?? Where are you??

Better go chase down my chairs... wind is getting worse out there...

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Re: born somewhere in calabria

Postby mfjp » 30 Sep 2005, 00:24

The SSDI application may or may not list the names of her parents...

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